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Etherium Sculptor Discussion
1 day ago
I really like the artifact theory. Would make for interesting gods that are different, as well as tie into Kaladesh of course. AND the whole "devotion" thing would look at either how many artifacts you controlled or the CMC of your artifacts to make them creatures, which would be a cool twist.
Tk4890 there can be artifact creatures who don't look metallic, like Etherium Sculptor for example. Even so, there's a first time for everything and the gods could be metallic even though the art shows some skin on them.
5 days ago
Also here are a few more cards you might want to consider:
2 weeks ago
lagotripha - Metalwork Colossus cant be ramped via Frogmite and Myr Enforcer because both are creatures (and colossus reduce cost by non-creature artifact) else it be interesting so. In try to no lose the identity of deck, the midrange tax is more interesting.In my testing Thoughtcast although great card, seens slow in first turn to arrange to pieces. by the Semblance Anvil redundance, i try before copies of Etherium Sculptor, but it loses slot for Lightning Greaves because Master Transmuter + Greaves do a lot of work.
but Cogwork Assembler is a interesting card for late, ill try this
2 weeks ago
To be honest I don't see any benefits from Spawning Pit here. Infinite combo that is no win condition is not the point here. But removing one colour and changing win condition from Impact Tremors and Wild Cantor to Grinding Station and Myr Retriever is really good idea.
About manabase: I preffer fetchalnds. Effect same, mana I need on the next turn and a one card less in the deck, few % higher chance on perfect drow.
Foundry Inspector and Etherium Sculptor there is no point in making myrs cheaper, Heartless Summoning is needed to sacrifice them and makes them free. True that Spawning Pit and lowing costs can do same effect, but is far easier to get infinite effect with one card than with three.
Im still not sure about number of lands in deck and holy deay as a little survival balance tho.
2 weeks ago
Since you're going infinite anyway, Impact Tremors could be replaced with Altar of the Brood without any issues, easing any mana concerns, leaving just plains and swamps, since taplands are a thing you just put a bunch of swamps, a single plains and some Orzhov Guildgate and Scoured Barrens. Blue might be more efficient to try and resolve Etherium Sculptor, /Foundry Inspector serving as backup copies of summoning. Golem's Heart/Grinding Station deserves to be in the sideboard. Myr Retriever goes infinite with two copies in hand without renewal if you have a sacrifice outlet like Spawning Pit, or with a copy of Scrap Trawler or Sculpting Steel.
2 weeks ago
Hey Rarian, thanks for the support, Shimmer Zur is clearly the best Zur :D
I should probably get around to updating the description for the CMC counts, card explanations and such.
Phyrexian Unlife went because it was always a dead card in hand and IMO a terrible Zur target. It limits you to an Ad Naus on your turn only, and if you have the mana to cast both Unlife and AD Naus in the same turn you would get better results from Ad Naus, play fast mana/rituals, tutor for Yawg Win, recast rituals, recast tutor for AG, win with AG/Ad Naus, or just Ad Naus into DD.
Unlife is also a pretty bad Zur target in that either Necro is the main line, or you are under heavy stax and you need removal. You'd pretty much never play Zur with an Ad Naus in your hand anyway so the only good time to have it would be if you naturally drew Ad Maus the turn Zur can attack. I don't think I've ever wanted to tutor for this card or to see it in hand, so it was cut.
Etherium Sculptor (and also Cyclonic rift) were cut because I stopped playing Zur in my normal staxy meta and started playing it more with ShaperSavant and CEDH friends. That table has pretty much no stax and is all fast combo so those 2 pieces of anti-stax went out for tutors and ramp.
I've been testing Isochron Scepter and just cut it 5 days ago, it's cool but it is just win more unfortunately. I wish I could keep it in cause it gives you even more T1 win possibilities (with Senseis trigger stacking to draw the deck)
Unfortunately youre right, Paradox Engine is too much of a win more card for this deck. I did make this Thrasios Kydele Test for it though, with an infinite mana sink in the command zone it's SUUUPER broken and wins on the spot.
2 weeks ago
Hello there, I love this list :) it seems really cool and I higly prefer it to traditional lists focused only on DD. I got some questions, though.
Why no Isochron Scepter? With Reversal it goes both infinite with storm count and infinite with mana. I guess in this list it may be a win-more but have you ever tested it :)?
Have you ever tested Paradoxical Outcome? After drawing 25+ cards with necro and casting myr it may simply draw you another half of the deck :D it sometimes work as combined AN and recall/chain. I'm currently playing this storm deck - Rashmi, Crafter of Masterpiece (Paradoxical Storm) built around Paradox Engine and I just adore this card. I don't have the access to black and Ad Nauseam. Maybe in Zur it's just another "win more" but it seems fine on paper. Both legacy and vintage use this card in storm decks, though.
Anyway I love this list. You have my upvote and I will follow it and see what changes will be made :).
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestion of Etherium Sculptor, did not realize that card existed.I prefer to keep the War Reports, it has saved my life lots of times. When I play with this Deck my friends easily pick up on me because they know I can 1-hit kill them all and with War Report I get back from 2 to 20 or sometimes even more. ;)