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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
When Pia Nalaar enters the battlefield, create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
: Target artifact creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
, Sacrifice an artifact: Target creature can't block this turn.
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Pia Nalaar Discussion
1 day ago
Things you can drop in and swing with first turn are very powerful in this deck, I definitely recommend putting Fanatical Firebrand in. I also recommend Pia Nalaar she's helped me win numerous games. For your sideboard, definitely take out Abrade because you've already got one in the main board and can only have 4 of a card in a deck so yeah check that out. Sweltering Suns By Force and Blood Sun are all solid sideboard choices.
1 week ago
check out my budget build Playing With Fire
3 weeks ago
To see if these new Challenger decks can in fact be good out of box for $30 with no upgrades I've been testing Counter Surge vs the rest of the decks.
Counter Surge is good out of box it's wrecking the rest of them mostly because the manabase is so much better than Vehicle Rush and Second Sun Control because of 8x Golgari dual lands Aether Hub and Foul Orchard. Being able to produce enough energy to power Hub gives the deck a huge advantage.
3x Verdurous Gearhulk is basically not fair compared to the other decks. Blossoming Defense wrecks Hazoret Aggro. Glint-Sleeve Siphoner wrecks Second Sun Control because Aether Meltdown doesn't stop it from attacking gaining energy. Longtusk Cub and Walk the Plank are the worst cards in the deck and could easily be cut for Servant of the Conduit or Merfolk Branchwalker and Moment of Craving. 3x Dreamstealer is one too many.
Budget upgrades for Counter Surge:
- Cut 4x Cub for 4x Servant or Branchwalker
- Cut 1x Dreamstealer and 2x Walk the Plank for 3x Moment of Craving
- Cut 2x Appetite for the Unnatural for 2x Naturalize
- Cut 1x Slice in Twain for 1x Lost Legacy
- Cut 1x Cartouche of Ambition for 1x Crook of Condemnation
Vehicle Rush has a great decklist out of box, the best of the decks, but the manabase is shit. It's also missing Abrade in the 75 cards. The manabase is relying too much on Spire of Industry it needs 4x Inspiring Vantage. Aether Hub doesn't make sense for the deck other than using this land as an appealing reason to buy this product. Buy it for the complete decklist and put some money or trade into upgrading the manabase with Vantage. 4x Heart is a big draw it's still Standard legal for the rest of the year. A card or more could be printed in the next few sets that could break Heart again.
Budget upgrades for Vehicle Rush:
- Cut 3x Hub for 3x more Vantage
- Cut 2x Evolving Wilds for 1x more Dragonskull Summit and 1x more Swamp
- Cut 2x Lightning Strike for 2x Abrade
- Cut 3x Harsh Mentor for 1x more Abrade, 1x more Cast Out and 1x Ixalan's Binding
Hazoret Aggro is not good out of box it lacks punch; it needs Earthshaker Khenra and Invigorated Rampage to make up for having only one Hazoret. Harsh Mentor doesn't do enough for the deck to warrant main deck spots. It's a sideboard card in Vehicle Rush, but some reason it's a main deck card in Hazoret Aggro?
4x Fanatical Firebrand is very lackluster. 8x main deck burn spells that can go to the face and 4x Ahn-Crop Crasher are saving graces for the deck. Crasher is the best card in the deck because you draw it much more than singleton Hazoret, Chandra or Glorybringer. 4x Chandra's Defeat in the sideboard is strange as it hits very few cards vs all the other decks. 2x Defeat and 2x more Abrade is better to stop Verdurous and Heart. Buy this product purely for the three stand out cards: Chandra, Hazoret and Glorybringer.
Budget upgrades for Hazoret Aggro:
- Cut 3x Mentor for 3x Earthshaker
- Move 2x Pia Nalaar from sideboard to main deck replacing 2x Firebrand
- Cut 2x Magma Spray for 2x Invigorated Rampage
- New sideboard: 3x Spray, 2x Mentor, 2x more Abrade, 2x Defeat, 2x Kari Zev's Expertise, 2x more Rampage, 2x Key
Second Sun Control is the worst of the decks out of box. You need more time to cast Approach of the Second Sun better cards to delay your opponent. The manabase could be better needs budget 4x Meandering River or 2-4x Aether Hub or both. You need to be able to hit double white, but 12x Islands which includes 2x Ipnu Rivulet is not helping. Aether Meltdown and Glimmer of Genius can power Hub.
The lack of Essence Scatter in the 75 cards is confusing, to upgrade start by including 3-4x Scatter. Kefnet is not a very good second win condition, but it's the Mythic in the deck, can't cut it right? A second copy of Settle the Wreckage would of been better than a second Kefnet.
The best thing about Meltdown is flash, but overall it's not a good card because it doesn't prevent the creature enchanted by it from attacking which is not good vs Bomat Courier or Glint-Sleeve, two of the best cards in these decks vs Control. It is however good to stop Heart of Kiran, but I would cut some for Baffling End because it can exile Scrapheap Scrounger, Earthshaker, Dreamstealer as well as Glint-Sleeve or Bomat all these creatures are hard for Control to deal with. 4x Cast Out, 4x Censor, 4x Supreme Will, 3x Fumigate, 1x Settle the Wreckage and 4x Irrigated Farmland are the reasons to buy this product. This is a nice a starting core of a Control deck, but not sure it's worth an investment of $30.
If budget upgrading I would make a lot of changes. New main deck:
- 1x Kefnet
- 4x Censor
- 3x Scatter
- 3x Will
- 1x Cancel
- 4x Glimmer
- 1x Pull from Tomorrow
- 4x Cast
- 2x Baffling
- 2x Meltdown
- 1x Farm
- 3x Fumigate
- 2x Settle
- 3x Approach
- 4x Farmland
- 4x River
- 2x Hub
- 2x Ipnu
- 6x Island
- 6x Plains
- 2x Ruin
In the end, if I was to buy one of these decks to just play right out of box I would get Counter Surge. If I wanted the best constructed decklist I would buy Vehicle Rush, but it requires upgrading the manabase to compete with Counter Surge. If I want the most monetary value for my $30, but the deck is not good out of box then I would get Hazoret Aggro.
The only deck I would avoid is Second Sun Control because I feel it's no good out of box requiring too many upgrades and Kefnet is a let down. Too bad the Mythic wasn't Torrential Gearhulk.
2 months ago
Night Market Lookout should be a 4 of, so should Scrapheap Scrounger and Weldfast Engineer Inventor's Apprentice. Cut it back to 22 lands, aggressive decks can run a little less. Bump it up to 4 Unlicensed Disintegration and Built to Smash. Get 4 Fleetwheel Cruiser and run them in place of the other vehicles you have 2 of each of. Then replace the last 2 artifacts with Skysovereign, Consul Flagship. Pia Nalaar would be good in here too. Also add one more solid piece of removal, Never / Return and Hour of Glory are a little more budget friendly than Fatal Push and Vraska's Contempt, Lightning Strike and Abrade are really good too. Trim it down to 60 cards using 4 of each of the cards I mentioned other than the sky sovereigns and the deck will be pretty consistent. Sideboard should be like 3 each of Sentinel Totem Duress Lay Bare the Heart By Force and Shock. This deck should be super fast this way, and it will help that you curve is lower, the only other upgrade would be to replace Untethered Express with Aethersphere Harvester or Heart of Kiran. Hope it works well for you.
2 months ago
Shadows of innistrad block has rotated out of standard. I like Reckless Fireweaver, especially when paired with Pia's Revolution and Marionette Master. Throw a bunch of implements like Implement of Malice Implement of Combustion in and watch your opponent sweat. Also Pia Nalaar gives you a good sacrifice outlet, and Weaponcraft Enthusiast gives you some tokens for fodder. If you go this route, always put the counters on Marionette Master to get maximum lifeloss. Another good card is Underhanded Designs
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2 months ago
This deck looks great! Though I think you could tune it to be a bit faster than it already is. Unlicensed Disintegration Is quite unnecessary due to you having much better things to play at three mana. You could take one less of that respective spell add a Pia Nalaar For situational plays or to keep a delay to be able to get to your 5 drop. And add two Rampaging Ferocidon It is a great aggro creature and counters very good creatures.
4 months ago
Dropped in to take a look because this is something I've been tinkering with doing for a while and now that the Planeswalker uniqueness rule is gone it's even more of an enticing idea.
Some things though.
I don't believe Madcap Experiment's art is actually showcasing Chandra. I think it's supposed to be a Kaladeshi inventor. Admittedly they look like a redhead to me too so they fit that criteria, and even then don't let me say you shouldn't use them, it's a pretty card, just saying...
Your deck as it stands has 101 cards (100 + commander), you need to trim a card.
I believe, technically, the second word in your deck title is spelled "Homage" not "Omage", but that's more of a nit pick than anything else.
More card ideas: Pia Nalaar and Pia and Kiran Nalaar are cards I don't think I could live without in my version of the deck. You do you, but I wasn't sure if you'd remembered they exist. Granted they don't have much synergy with the deck, but they're decent enough self contained cards in their own right.
Young Pyromancer has a Chandra medallion on his chest and he's fantastic synergy with all the burn spells in your deck. You can only see the details in the zoomed in versions of the art, but I know it's there.
4 months ago
Really nice deck! Would you consider making it Grixis? Gives you access to Captain Lannery Storm and Unlicensed Disintegration. I also think Pia Nalaar would be right up this deck's alley, being able to give you something in exchange for sacrificing artifacts which you're going to be doing anyway