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Frontier Bivouac Discussion
2 weeks ago
Breeding Pool, Steam Vents, Stomping grounds, Cinder Glade, Game Trail, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Frontier Bivouac, Temple of Abandon, Temple of Epiphany, Temple of Mystery, Gruul Turf, Izzet Boilerworks, Simic Growth Chamber, Hinterland Harbor, Rootbound Crag, Kazandu Refuge, Rugged Highlands, Swiftwater Cliffs, Thornwood Falls, Shivan Reef, Yavimaya Coast, Gruul Guildgate, Highland Lake, Izzet Guildgate, Shivan Oasis, Simic Guildgate, Timber Gorge, Woodland Stream, Highland Weald, Arcane Lighthouse, Homeward Path, Kessig Wolf Run, Rogue's Passage, Skarrg, the Rage Pits, Command Tower, Forbidden Orchard, Path of Ancestry, Lumbering Falls, Wandering Fumarole, Savage Ventmaw, Shaman of Forgotten Ways, Somberwald Sage, Xenagos, the Reveler
1 month ago
You should run Command Tower if you can help it! Even with all of the colorless critters running around, you'll want to always have the colored mana on hand to be able to play Animar. You might also like Ancient Ziggurat, City of Brass, Mana Confluence (don't worry about the 1 point of damage, you have 40 life!), Frontier Bivouac and the painlands - namely, Karplusan Forest, Shivan Reef and Yavimaya Coast. Since you need colorless mana for some of the eldrazi, these lands basically make three colors of mana!
For utility lands, Alchemist's Refuge is good in Animar decks (he makes guys cheap enough you'll often have no problem paying the activation cost) as well as Kessig Wolf Run as a mana sink in the late game.
1 month ago
Looks a lot better! Nice job with your lands as well! I only have a couple of comments:
- It looks like you might have too many nonbasic lands in your deck. Fastlands like Botanical Sanctum aren't great in EDH in my opinion, as games tend to go long, and neither are straight-up ETBT (enters-the-battlefield-tapped) lands like Izzet Guildgate, Thornwood Falls, or Woodland Stream. The only ETBT lands I would recommend running are tri-lands (Frontier Bivouac in your case), and scry-lands (the Temples).
- I'm not quite sure why Drover of the Mighty is in here, as you don't have any dinosaurs to pump it. If you need two-mana ramp creatures, Voyaging Satyr is pretty good, but I would recommend Signets instead (Izzet Signet, Simic Signet, Gruul Signet).
In any case, awesome job! Looks solid!
1 month ago
First of all if your ramping into door to nothingness you either want duel lands or tri lands and Mana rocks such as the various border posts or signets. Secondly you want a secondary win condition, and my advice is (staying in colourless theme) Darksteel Reactor. Although slow, many people will try to work out ways to eliminate it because it appears to be a threat. Finally you need more blockers to help protect your plan. Keeping theme, Etched Champion and Myr Servitor fit nicely here.
2 months ago
As you have no turn 1 plays it would be safe to increase the number of Frontier Bivouacs to 4 and replace the banners with signets, as you also have[rattle claw for fixing.
2 months ago
2 x Island
2 x Plains
2 x Swamp
2 x Mountain
2 x Forest
2 months ago
Hey, you're using 21x ETB tapped lands. This is a lot, making the manabase really slow. To speed up budget manabases rely on basic lands and dual lands which have interaction with basic lands, check lands such as Rootbound Crag and tango lands such as Cinder Glade. Check lands and tango lands also have interaction with eachother which is very helpful. Budget manabases that use green are also better off playing more basics because they can be tutored for with land ramp spells such as Rampant Growth and Cultivate. Pain lands such as Underground River are also better than lands like Bad River.
In theory using the ETB tapped fetch lands such as Mountain Valley while slow can work with the tango lands such as Smoldering Marsh. The problem with the way you've set-up the manabase is you're not using enough basic lands, only 8, to make this interaction worth it. Even if you fetch a tango land it's still going to ETB tapped because it requires at least two basic lands in your control.
A playable budget five color manabase that has an equal amount of all colors is hard to construct therefore my advice is to pick two colors as your two most important colors and then splash the rest. Rely on artifact ramp such as Signets: Gruul Signet, Simic Signet and green land ramp spells, basic lands and ramp creatures such as Sylvan Caryatid to help to fix your colors. This means including more artifact ramp and cards that can fix your colors of mana than you would probably like, but is necessary for the deck to function.
I don't know what your Dragon decklist looks like so I can only use the original Dragon precon's manabase as reference. Looking at the original precon red is the most important color because a lot of Dragons have heavy red casting costs. Green is second and it's just as important as red because you want to cast land ramp spells in the early game which can not only ramp, but also fix colors of mana. Black is next, white and blue should just be splashes.
Here's a manabase for you to consider. The manabase focuses on green and red as the two most important colors and splashes the rest of the colors. This example $44 manabase has 16 basic lands and includes 23 green sources, 23 red sources, 16 black sources, 14 white sources and 14 blue sources with 6 lands which ETB tapped. It's set-up to take advantage of the interaction between basic lands, check lands and tango lands.
- 6x Mountain
- 5x Forest
- 3x Swamp
- 1x Plains
- 1x Island
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Mana Confluence
- Crucible of the Spirit Dragon
- Haven of the Spirit Dragon
- Path of Ancestry
- Savage Lands
- Jungle Shrine
- Frontier Bivouac
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Rootbound Crag
- Sunpetal Grove
- Dragonskull Summit
- Clifftop Retreat
- Hinterland Harbor
- Karplusan Forest
- Canopy Vista
- Cinder Glade
- Smoldering Marsh
- Sunken Hollow
- Prairie Stream
I can further help you if you would like with the manabase, but I need to see the decklist your using the manabase with.
2 months ago
I've attempted to upgrade the mana base in C17 dragons. Being a new Commander player, admittedly I've struggled to work out what I should have dropped in place of the new cards, so could more seasoned players tell me if this is a balanced and worthy mana base to play with? Any changes? Thanks in advance!
1x Bad River 1x Canopy Vista1x Cascading Cataracts1x Cinder Glade1x Command Tower1x Crumbling Necropolis1x Exotic Orchard1x Evolving Wilds1x Flood Plain 1x Forest1x Frontier Bivouac 1x Grasslands1x Haven of the Spirit Dragon1x Island1x Jungle Shrine 1x Krosan Verge 1x Opal Palace2x Plains1x Prairie Stream1x Mana Confluence1x Mosswort Bridge3x Mountain1x Mountain Valley 1x Murmuring Bosk1x Nomad Outpost1x Opulent Palace 1x Path of Ancestry1x Plains1x Rocky Tar Pit 1x Savage Lands 1x Smoldering Marsh1x Sunken Hollow1x Swamp1x Terramorphic Expanse