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Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
When Pia and Kiran Nalaar enters the battlefield, create two 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying.
, Sacrifice an artifact: Pia and Kiran Nalaar deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
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Pia and Kiran Nalaar Discussion
1 day ago
That seems like a really good compromise, my friend! Janky combos ususally don't hurt people's feelings, and the combo pieces synergize just fine with the rest of your deck even if the engine isn't assembled.
Now that you've narrowed in on tokens/aristocrats with potential combo, it's easy to select haymakers for that deck. For starters, Chief Engineer is one of my favorite cards of all time. Blinkmoth Urn, too. Welding Jar to save your best piece in the event of a Shatterstorm. Go Brittle Effigy instead of Oblivion Stone, and then use Nevinyrral's Disk as a mass removal.
And then I think you need more token production -- Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Whirler Rogue, Thopter Spy Network, Hangarback Walker, Thopter Foundry, Thopter Assembly, stuff with Improvise and Affinity abilities, the new Saheeli Rai (and the old one I guess!). Hope this helps(: I'd cut down on the flicker synergies since artifact sacrifice + recursion + cost reduction lets you use similar effects, but all your pieces get to be artifacts. But that's just my advice to save some room in this list.
Raff is SO GOOD in this deck, like a 50 cent Vedalken Orrery. Play him. Always (:
3 days ago
This is a pretty standard build. If your looking for suggestions on alternative builds I’ve got some, but they deviate from normal skred so I’m fine if you ignore this completely.
1: this is a blood moon deck. Although most skred decks only run 3 I recommend 4 bc they are your main way to lock down the opponent
2: another T3 lock card is Ensnaring Bridge, and there have been multiple builds that eliminate the board pressure completely and go all in T3 lock with both e bridge and blood moon. Not sure if that’s what your going for but it’s a fun build
3: Simian Spirit Guide is a great way to cheat out moon or bridge T2. Even if your not playing bridge there are still some skred decks that run guide to get the T2 moon
4: for whatever reason Pia and Kiran Nalaar are played a lot in skred, so that might be decent
5: The one skred build that won a competitive modern gp is actually a non standard build. It involves running 4 Relic of Progenitus along with 4 Eternal Scourge as a weird synergy to turn the scourges into squee. Again, I’m not sure if this is what your going for but it’s a build
Any skred deck deserves +1 so I guess +1
1 month ago
Personally I would cut:
- Pia and Kiran Nalaar --> I think Siege-Gang Commander is a better choice, because he makes an additional token and his sac ability is cheaper
- Tyrant of Discord --> His ability is probably too random
- Dross Scorpion --> This will mostly untap manarocks, which is too weak for 4 mana
- Karn Liberated --> i think Spine of Ish Sah would be better with all the artifact synergies
- Anarchist --> I'm not sure about it but i think that 9 sorceries are to few
- Myr Retriever --> It does the same thing as Daretti, Scrap Savant and Goblin Welder, only worse
I would add:
- Flametongue Kavu: A really strong effect for only 4 mana
- Dismissive Pyromancer: A looter and Feldon target in 1 card and it only costs 2 mana
- Spitebellows: Evoke works nicely with Feldon and 6 damage kills most creatures
- Bedlam Reveler: I'm not sure if he's good here, but I think it's worth a try
- Avalanche Riders: Recurable Land destruction and it gets into the grave without looting/sacrificing
- Filigree Familiar:A mini Solemn Simulacrum
- Clone Shell: I don't know if that's maybe to random, but it looks fun
1 month ago
@xJonahSlayerx: Yeah, card draw and removal are definitely key. For card advantage, Apex of Power, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Mind's Eye, Outpost Siege, Reforge the Soul and Skullclamp. For removal, I'm running Aligned Hedron Network, Blasphemous Act, Burn at the Stake, By Force, Goblin Bombardment and Vandalblast among others. Try sorting the deck by custom categories to see everything I have under Card Advantage and Removal.
@Shinkusenshi: I used to run Goblinslide in the early days of this deck. I really liked the idea of Goblinslide, but found in practice it added too little value compared to other cards that could take that card slot in the deck.
@iwhaleme: There's only 1 copy of Pia and Kiran Nalaar. I had the deck set to sort by custom categories, so it was showing that Pia and Kiran serve multiple roles in the deck, both generating tokens and dealing damage. I've changed the default sorting back to Type for clarity that cards aren't actually in there multiple times.
1 month ago
First impression of the deck is that you don't have enough lands. I would add 2-3 more. Nomad Outpost and Command Tower are both cheap, must-have tri-lands. You could also consider utility lands like Ghost Quarter and Bojuka Bog
If you are interested in another combo, Nim Deathmantle combos with your Ashnod's Altar and token producing creatures like Siege-Gang Commander for infinite death triggers/tokens/mana. Pia and Kiran Nalaar and Marionette Master are other good token makers. I think both are probably better than the Ponyback Brigade you have now.
Some cards that I think you could cut are Archfiend of Depravity, Death Denied, and Anarchist. You could also stand to trim a couple of your Alesha protecton/enablers because you don't always need one and they are poor in multiples.
2 months ago
-2 lands and more mana rocks that are
I think focusing on outlets that make artifact tokens would be fun and have synergy with Saheeli. Recent sets have given options for treasure (Brass's Bounty), clues (Tamiyo's Journal), servos (Servo Schematic), and thopters (Pia and Kiran Nalaar). Adding in bounce/blink effects would let you keep the army growing.
A fun alternative win-con to ramping into a scary Eldrazi is transforming your token army. Day of the Dragons, Descent of the Dragons, and Dragonshift + Surge of Zeal/Burst of Speed allow a lethal strike out of pretty much nowhere.
More card draw too; Mind's Eye, Staff of Nin, Slate of Ancestry, Ichor Wellspring, Howling Mine, Temple Bell, etc. all get the job done in their own ways. Spell-based draw is good too; Jace's Ingenuity, Ponder, Telling Time, Faithless Looting etc.
Some cards that should also be considered: Trading Post, Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient, Goblin Welder, Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer, Solemn Simulacrum, Nevinyrral's Disk, Shimmer Myr, Feldon of the Third Path, and Hellkite Tyrant.
2 months ago
Pia and Kiran Nalaar could definitely work, yeah. And the shock damage is surprisingly relevant against small, annoying creatures. But what to cut...I'm not entirely convinced on Dark-Dweller Oracle since I would rather not lose my tokens to get card draw. Thanks for your thoughts! :)
Suns_Champion: Thanks, man! Crafty Cutpurse belongs in the "sideboard" of this deck once I've tuned it a bit further (I can steal opponents' tokens directly, AND do janky things like the ones you mention!). Flameshadow Conjuring and Feldon of the Third Path are both things I've been considering: what would you cut? The only problem with them is that they require me to cast my large things rather than cheat them in somehow...and Rite of the Raging Storm is cute, but it doesn't help me build up a large number of tokens. Hmmm. Similarly to the last thing, what would you cut?
Thank you both for your thoughts!