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: Dread Statuary becomes a 4/2 Golem artifact creature until end of turn. It's still a land.
1 month ago
I saw your deck cycle, throwing more at you....
Reflecting Pool - I feel this is better in tricolor decks where there is more versatility. Having 2 of the same when you sometimes need another color isn't always ideal. That being said, given your dorks/ramp, I doubt it has whiffed on you before. Still curious
Urza's Saga - For sol ring and shadowspear? Would suck if you already drew into them. I dont think you have enough targets to make it viable, how often has it whiffed? I feel if you added Sensei's Divining top, it would be more viable.
Wheel of Fortune - Seriously considering this in my build. How do you know when to and not to play it? Would love some advice on that. Xenagos lists draw through combat damage or through targeting a high power creature you control. Having draw that is not reliant upon maintaining a creature on board
Bonders' Enclave - While colorless making dork casting more difficult, the potential for draw might be worth it
Dread Statuary - While same issue above, having a man land has been very helpful for me. Making it a 8 power with commander, then casting draw spell is nice.
Castle Garenbrig - Similar issue to above, but helps ramp out 5 of your creatures more quickly. Might be worth it
Skullclamp - Draw, power booster and makes your late game dorks into draw engines. I've almost always been happy to see this card. Not to mention that if you equip pre-combat, they have to decide whether they want to remove it to prevent you from drawing. But many times (meta dependent), people are hesitant to use removal on a threat that might not be coming to them. #politics
Rancor - Turns 1/1 --> 3/1 --> 6 power with commander. Recurs itself, provides trample. Not needed, but nice to have. Often times, I cast selvala, rancor onto it, go to combat, pump, no swing --> main phase 2, use the haste + pump to cast big spell (greater good, riskhar's etc....)
Heroic Intervention - Most important suggestion, super useful. Dont sleep on it.
Your list is pretty tuned, so its hard to recommend any cuts
1 year ago
I have not updated my Xenagos since exactly a year ago, so some of these suggestions do not take into account cards that have been released since then such as Jeska(i?)s will and battle mammoth which should find their way into this deck. Now onto my specific suggestions....
Berserk - Yes, block Malignus with your 1/1, let's see how that turns out. Also to be used for politics as you can target an opponent's creature (such as their commander) who is attacking another opponent. This would be to replace Temur Battle rage IMO
Deflecting Swat - I'll say it once, I'll say it again. In Xenagos, your biggest issue is removal. You spend 5+ mana per beater in the hopes that they don't save removal. Most of your draw like hunters insight, return of the wildspeaker, momentous fall (although to a lesser extent) is based on the fact that you need a creature to target and if they remove your creature, you are shit out of luck. By adding swat, you can bluff while tapped out, protecting your creature allowing it to most likely survive to your next turn in order to cast one of the above mentioned draw spells. Moreover, this counters counterspells and redirects targeted removal, targeted draw, targeted extra turns, etc.... so much utility in 1 card. This is perhaps the second/third most powerful card in a Xenagos deck IMO
Heroic Intervention - Protection
Greater Good - THE MOST POWERFUL CARD IN ANY XENAGOS DECK. IF YOU DO NOT ADD THIS, THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DISCUSS. THE SHEER VALUE OF THIS ALONE IS ASTRONOMICAL. Imagine casting a 6/6 beater, Xenagos doubles it to 12, they attempt to remove it, since it was going to die anyways, you sacrifice it to the "greater good" in order to draw 12 and discard 3. This doesn't include the fact that you can berserk your own creature prior to sacrificing it as well
Rancor - Nice to have, not necessary. Makes your 1/1 dorks 6 power with Xenagos, makes your beaters better. Hell, enchant it on an opponent's creature for politics
Sylvan Library - Nice to have, not necessary, but in Xenagos, it pays to have draw that isn't creature reliant.
Green Sun's Zenith - Tutor to the battlefield, yes please! While limited to green, it still is worth it. Getting what you need, when you need it.
Harmonize - Draw not based on creatures is nice to have
Life's Legacy - Similar to momentous fall, although easier to cast on the same turn as a beater. Do note that it suffers from the same issue as momentous fall, sacrificing as an additional cost to cast means be wary of the blue player. I like it, but some don't
Nissa's Pilgrimage - Ramp, more Turn 3 ramp enables a more consistent Turn 4 Xenagos. While we would love a Turn 3 Xenagos, the choice is between consistency or early on advantage, I choose consistency, but to each their own.
Skyshroud Claim - Gets 2 forests (note some cards are both forests and mountains) and brings them in untapped, so it helps with tempo, something Xenagos decks greatly lack. Would add this over nissa's pilgramage, although I like both if you can fit them
Ancient Tomb - Ramp
Bonders' Enclave - Draw
Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Land when you need it, a potential creature when you don't. I like the flexibility for 3 life
Yavimaya Hollow - Most useful but most expensive, protecting your creature from removal is what this deck needs.
Elder Gargaroth - Will almost always be draw, but I love the utility
Inferno Titan - Removal
I couldn't suggest more than what's allowed by tappedout, but let me know what you think of each suggestion. If you want ideas for cuts, lmk
1 year ago
Without discussing creatures...
Ancient Tomb > Temple of false. Out of budget, not needed, but nice to have
Yavimaya Hollow - See above
Castle Garenbrig - Ramp
Dread Statuary - Manland used for drawspells
Raging Ravine - See above
Reliquary Tower - Utility
Skyshroud Claim - Ramp that provides tempo needed in Xenagos
Harmonize - Draw, not the best, not the worst. I like it personally
Green Sun's Zenith - Since many of your dragons are green, not needed but nice
If you listen to any suggestion of mine, this is it, hands down, most important card in a Xenagos deck.... Greater Good - It provides you with draw and a reward for when your big creatures inevitably get removed
Rancor - Nice but not needed, think with Selvala to add lots of mana, with a dork to get 6 power trample. Can even give to an opponent's creature for politics.
Beast Within - Removal
Berserk - Finisher with a huge beater, nice to use on opponent's creature/commanders as well. Never underestimate instant speed interaction (see above)
Deflecting Swat - Counter counterspells, redirect targetted removal, draw, extra turns, etc.... for free. Not needed but VERY nice to have. Bluffing interaction while tapped out!
Momentous Fall - Might not be the best, but has saved my ass countless times. You need a way to maintain card draw in Xenagos
Return of the Wildspeaker - See above
The Great Henge - Draw, ramp, lifegain for cheap
1 year ago
First of all, your curve is high so you need way more mana acceleration, especially early game.
Here are some other suggestions:
Buried Ruin, Dread Statuary, Gavony Township, Tomb of the Spirit Dragon, Krosan Verge, Blighted Woodland, Canopy Vista, Scattered Groves, Castle Garenbrig, Bala Ged Recovery Flip instead of basic lands.
1 year ago
Three Visits > Rampant growth
Green Sun's Zenith - Tutor
Harmonize - Not needed but nice to have, Xenagos decks struggle with card draw and this helps mitigate that weakness.
Eternal Witness - Recursion
Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal, utility with E-Wit and others
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp + Potential wincon
Elder Gargaroth - Really good, fav 5 drop beater in Xenagos hands down
1 year ago
Hey there! As asked for on my page, I will most certainly do my best to give you as many suggestions as I can, though aristocrats is, again, not exactly my area of expertise. I hope this helps, and before I continue, I wish you the best of luck on your deck.
Let's start off with the lands/ramp. The lands seem pretty great choices for a budget deck, couldn't really have done it better myself, but there are a couple cards you may want to consider that you might have missed. Brightclimb Pathway Flip is probably one of the biggest ones, and it is only around 2-3 bucks. It's very valuable to have a choice like that in the game, and neither would come in tapped which is super good. Salt Flats is also a great card, and while it comes in tapped, you can always rely on it for a good source of colored mana, or simply use the colorless part of its ability. It is also less than 50 cents, making it a great include for a budget deck. Blighted Fen might also contribute to the theme, but is absolutely unnecessary unless you like its ability. Now, we get into a whole set of cards that could be interesting to think about, though whether you think you should include them or not are entirely up to you. Teysa is all about sacrificing and having sac outlets, so what if you had lands that had the option to act as creatures? This would let you tap for mana, and have the option to sac a creature if you needed it! Here are some of the better ones you may want to consider:
- Shambling Vent
- Foundry of the Consuls
- Blinkmoth Nexus
- Dread Statuary
- Frostwalk Bastion
- Mishra's Factory
- Cradle of the Accursed
Now you may not like most of those, but possibly even just having one or two of the better ones like Blinkmoth and Mishra might be pretty beneficial, as it's always good to have things to sac in the worst-case scenario. In addition to that, all of the cards above are less than a dollar if not a small bit more, meaning they could most likely work price wise. To wrap up all the land part, Crystal Vein is also something good to consider, giving you a turn extra in mana at the price of the land, as well as Field of Ruin, which is just a overall not bad card in general for harming your opponents.
Now, what about ramp? While your ramp looks pretty good, here are a couple sweet ones you may have missed: Dark Ritual!!! This guy is amazing, for one mana you can pretty much cast teysa turn 2 with another land out, or it can just give you a huge leg up in general! Certaintly worth considering. Talisman of Hierarchy is also a super cheap great card I would definitely recommend for the deck, and it will surely benefit you more than the Prismatic Lens, though having both is simply better. Commander's Sphere obviously isn't as good as arcane signet, but it is still pretty great due to the draw ability and is also definitely worth considering. Cabal Ritual is also great with teysa since you'll be sacrificing a lot. To top that all off, Knight of the White Orchid and Gift of Estates are pretty good and definitely worth looking into.
Altogether, for your mana base, there isn't anything too dire, it all looks pretty good, though there are certainly a few budget cards I mentioned there you should definitely consider. I'm now going to give some recommendations on some all-around good cards to include, and save the specifically aristocrats stuff for last. Swords to Plowshares is pretty cheap and yet an amazing staple in all decks, I would definitely consider that, especially since in your case you can play it on one of your own things to get extra triggers, while also gaining the life. Generous Gift is also an amazing removal card that I have in my best deck and it's pretty good too! Same as for swords, you even have the option to play it on yourself and get the elephant token that you can sacrifice again! Fumigate and Cleansing Nova are pretty cheap but good board wipes that I would definitely try including too, to top of all the removal. In black, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, and Night's Whisper are pretty good for draw that you may want to think about.
Now sorry if this is a bit rushed, I am short on time, but you may want to think about some of the following cards, with graveyard recursion, tutors to graveyards, and good sac cards!
- Buried Alive
- Fleshbag Marauder
- Pitiless Plunderer
- Dictate of Erebos (not budget, but would be worth it)
- Village Rites
- Cruel Celebrant
Now before I end this, I would consider checking out EDHREC, where you can find so many suggestions for teysa based on what other people have (link to teysa on edhrec here and also checking out the combo section, as you may find many combo-y cards that could work in the deck! Anyways, sorry this was a bit rushed, I hope it is of use to you, and have a wonderful day! Happy tapping!
1 year ago
There are other cuts to consider as well, but I feel these are the more noteworthy ones....
Ashaya, Soul of the Wild - No direct synergy with Xenagos, you want a beater with evasion or protection
Beast Whisperer - Better in decks that are lower to the ground that can better use it's ability
Brash Taunter - "No synergy with Xenagos"
God-Eternal Rhonas - Better in decks that go wide, this gets easily chump blocked. You rarely have more than 1 creature out at a time
Klothys, God of Destiny - "No synergy with Xenagos"
Leyline Tyrant - Better in red decks, while not recomending it, glorybringer would be better IMO as it acts as removal as well
Phylath, World Sculptor - No synergy with....
Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - Not enough ramp to hard cast, no cheating effects (which wont even give you a cast trigger)
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre - See above
Shadowspear - Meta call? Better to have creatures with trample or more ramp and card draw in this slow
Triumph of the Hordes - Hit or miss. Playing a beater, hoping it survives, casting this next turn and hoping they dont have removal. Ignoring the feelbad of infect
Berserkers' Onslaught - Winmore
Vernal Bloom - Symmetrical ramp which you can't even take full advantage of
Nissa, Who Shakes the World - This is ok, I like the vigilance and getting essentially a 6/6. Rather have something more impactful.
Atarka, World Render - Beater with evasion
Balefire Dragon - Beater with evasion that also destroys decks that go wide
Carnage Tyrant - Beater with protection, evasion and anti-blue. Nice to use a mass draw spell knowing they can't remove the creature in response
Etali, Primal Storm - Not needed, but fun! Lots of value, doesn't require combat damage
Farhaven Elf - Ramp for T4 Xenagos
Fierce Empath - Tutor
Inferno Titan - Removal
Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal
Malignus - GG target player
Savage Ventmaw - Beater with evasion and helps build tempo
Scourge of the Throne - Destroy people's lifetotal
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp and potential wincon
Siege Behemoth - Beater with evasion
Somberwald Sage - Ramp
Springbloom Druid - Ramp for T4 Xenagos
Yavimaya Hollow - Protection
Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Land when you need it, beater when you don't
Dread Statuary - Manland to be used as potential beater or for draw spell
Rishkar's Expertise - Draw + Tempo. Powerful!
Life's Legacy - Draw
Momentous Fall - Similar to above, to be used in response to removal
Berserk - Use on selvala, malignus or even an opposing creature attacking one of your opponents!
Sylvan Library - Nice but not needed
1 year ago
You described almost every Xenagos deck, mine included. You hit it right on the head.
As you said, we either have it or we don't. With no way to tutor card draw, adding more helps increase the odds of maintaining gas
Lifeblood Hydra - Not necessary but always welcome on X = 3 or more. Even if they destroy it, you still get value, has built in evasion and has a high ceiling.
Life's Legacy - If blue is too prevalent in your meta, ignore this suggestion
Momentous Fall - Similar to above, but would still put in despite blue, and despite the fact that its hard to have 4 mana after casting a beater. But similar to rishkar's expertise, I argue the potential card draw is worth the risk. You usually use this in response to opponent's removal
Bonders' Enclave - Never hurts, coudl replace a fetch land possibly
Elder Gargaroth - Makes beasts for blockers/draw spells, draws cards and gains life in a pinch.
Harmonize - Reliable draw
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - Ramp on steroids
Ancient Tomb - Ramp for T3 Commander
Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - A better See the Unwritten
Berserk - Don't worry, malignus doesn't have trample. Bonus points if you use it on Selvala or on an opponent's creature who is attacking another opponent.
Yavimaya Hollow - Protection
Reliquary Tower - For when you draw 10+ cards
Be sure to lmk what you think of each suggestion. Some will work better for you than others. I see you run some dorks so I know you don't want too many nonbasics, but with all the ramp in Xenagos, I think we can be a little greedy. If you can't find room, I have ideas for cuts.