Hellkite Charger

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Hellkite Charger

Creature — Dragon

Flying, haste

Whenever Hellkite Charger attacks, you may pay . If you do, untap all attacking creatures and after this phase, there is an additional combat phase.

king-saproling on Ramp and Burn!

2 months ago

Aggravated Assault and Hellkite Charger would be good here, unless you're avoiding infinite combos

multimedia on Miirym’s Temur Dragons

2 months ago

Hellkite Charger could replace Skanos Dragonheart? Both these Dragons want to attack to trigger abilities, but Skanos needs other Dragons to make it good, Charger doesn't. Skanos can't pump itself and doesn't have evasion, Charger can be part of a combo Skanos can't. Thrakkus the Butcher is a better five drop Dragon with trample who pumps itself as well as all other Dragons you control.

There's another combo you could add that creates infinite Dragons with Astral Dragon and the enabler Cursed Mirror provides a wincon, haste to attack. Could of course have other wincons: Scourge of Valkas, Dragon Tempest or Warstorm Surge. Mirror is a good card, you wouldn't just be adding it for the combo, it's a mana rock that if it becomes a Dragon when it enters then Miirym can copy it.

When you control Cursed Mirror that's not a creature have Astral Dragon enter and copy Mirror. The Mirror tokens then enter as Astral and copy original Mirror that's not a creature and repeat. This creates a loop of Astral and Mirror making copies of each other, each copy of Mirror is a 4/4 Astral Dragon with haste. To break the loop stop copying Mirror with Astral, copy something else.


Sarkhan Unbroken would be another fine upgrade, but not when on a budget. $25 for a nonDragon creature card when on a budget seems not a good use of funds. For $25 you could improve the manabase with many land upgrades Reflecting Pool, more Pain lands (Yavimaya Coast, Shivan Reef), some Bond lands (Spire Garden), some Filter lands (Flooded Grove) or some Check lands (Sulfur Falls, Rootbound Crag). In my opinion when on a budget allocating some of the budget for good lands is more important than adding flashy cards such as Sarkhan.

Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner is less powerful than Sarkhan, but it's also less than $2. Kiora can still do much work as another Temur Ascendancy draw effect as well as give you 7 turns of ramp that can untap any permanent including Sol Ring or an Orb.

Shamanic Revelation could be a cut for some lower mana cost draw since you're more likely to have a higher power Dragon then that same number of Dragon creatures. That's what makes Return of the Wildspeaker and Rishkar's Expertise good draw with Dragons is they have high power. Revelation is better when playing little tribal creatures such as Elves which tend to have quantity of creatures rather than single creature with high power.

Jaroc249 on Miirym’s Temur Dragons

2 months ago

multimedia I like the sound of Hellkite Charger, just need to think which card it should replace. Another card I'm thinking maybe is Sarkhan Unbroken

multimedia on Miirym’s Temur Dragons

2 months ago

Hey, you're welcome.

Sure, an Ancient Dragon would fit, but I don't think Ancient Bronze Dragon or all the other Ancient Dragons are worth their price. All are wildly overpriced since their power relies on randomness of the die. Yes, you could roll a 20, but you could also roll a 1. For the price of one Ancient Dragon you could instead make quite a few card upgrades.

A lower price Dragon to consider adding is Hellkite Charger because it's an infinite attack combo with Savage Ventmaw. Miirym creates a copy of Ventmaw, then two attacking Ventmaws + Charger can infinite trigger Charger as long as all three Dragons can keep attacking. Dragons like to attack, an infinite attack combo as wincon helps.

Niv-Mizzet, Parun is really good in multiplayer Commander and when you control two Niv then it can be a huge advantage. Irenicus's Vile Duplication is new card in Dominaria United and it's powerful for less than $3. Make a token copy of Miirym or any other Dragon you control.

llamahero on Treasure Zoo

6 months ago

Infinite Combat #3: Hellkite Charger + Savage Ventmaw + Professional Face-Breaker, after first combat to get started

Infinite Combat #4: Hellkite Charger + Savage Ventmaw + an attacking Magda, Brazen Outlaw

llamahero on Treasure Zoo

6 months ago

Infinite-ish Combat: Hellkite Charger + Savage Ventmaw

Infinite Combat #1: Hellkite Charger+Savage Ventmaw+Wulfgar of Icewind Dale with infinite /

Infinite Combat #2: Hellkite Charger + Grand Warlord Radha + 5 additional creatures. More than 5 additional makes infinite /

Infinite Combat Extras:

-add Azra Oddsmaker or Gallia of the Endless Dance to draw entire deck.

-add Ognis, the Dragon's Lash for infinite tapped treasures

-add Professional Face-Breaker for infinite untapped treasures and impulse draws

-add Legion Warboss for infinite hasty Goblin 1/1 R

Shock Persist Combo: Murderous Redcap + Falkenrath Aristocrat or Immersturm Predator + Grumgully, the Generous or Rhythm of the Wild, choosing +1/+1

Bramblecrush Persist Combo: Woodfall Primus + Falkenrath Aristocrat or Immersturm Predator + Grumgully, the Generous or Rhythm of the Wild, choosing +1/+1

Persist Combo Extra:

Rivel on Mono red Dragon Deck V2

7 months ago

So I have rambled on and on about my thoughts on all of the different aspects of this deck. In advance, I would like to thank anyone who has taken the time out of their day to read all of these and leave their own thoughts, as that is part of what makes this community great. There aren't many more themes to talk about in the deck. Now, onto win cons. So my main win conditions in the deck are damage from triggers and beating the opponent down with hoards of big dragons (with a third backup wincon with Hellkite Tyrant and Hellkite Igniter).

For damage from triggers I have Where Ancients Tread, Warstorm Surge, Dragon Tempest, Terror of the Peaks, Scourge of Valkas and Panharmonicon. They work great with Lathliss, Dragon Queen due to the tokens she generates when another dragon is played, all activating those damage triggers which can be used to control the board and directly target the opponent's HP pools. Archwing Dragon is a reliable way for the Damage triggers to activate each turn. Summons from Utvara Hellkite, Skyline Despot and Dragonmaster Outcast act as backup token generators for the damage triggers in case our lathliss isn't in play. Demanding Dragon is potentially a free 5 damage to the opponent's face. Drakuseth, Maw of Flames his damage trigger is repeatable every time you attack.

Supporting cards for the first win condition: I do not have any of these three cards in my decklist, as I can't figure out what I want to replace to get them in, but the dream is there. Conjurer's Closet allows you to make a dragon leave and re-enter the field at the end of the turn, triggering all of our ETB effects above. Mirage Mirror allows you to copy one of our pieces above, and you can choose the most beneficial one. It would be nice having two Dragon Tempest in play, especially say if you have 6 dragons on the field, have Mirage Mirror end of turn triggering them and getting free 12 damage to any target you want. If you could fit in a Fiery Emancipation that 12 turns into 36!

The secondary win condition "beat down", with "big" "dragon hoards", is also supported by Lathliss, Dragon Queen due to the big 5/5 token dragons she pumps out. The "dragon hoard" part is also supported by cards such as Utvara Hellkite, Skyline Despot, Dragonmaster Outcast as they all generate plenty of dragons. Now the "big" part comes from my anthems that buff my dragons Crucible of Fire, Gauntlet of Power, The Immortal Sun, and Vanquisher's Banner, as well as several dragons that are all pumpable to make them and/or their fellow dragons hit harder. Moonveil Dragon, Scourge of Valkas, Moltensteel Dragon and lastly Lathliss, Dragon Queen. Now, the fun part of my secondary win condition, "beat down" comes into play. Dragons such as Scourge of the Throne and Hellkite Charger allow you to take an extra combat turn, allowing you to really bash in your opponent's face with your big dragon hoard :)

Supporting cards for the secondary win condition: Terror of Mount Velus gives all of your dragon's double strike. Thundermaw Hellkite allows you to tap your opponent's fliers, allowing your dragons through. Drakuseth, Maw of Flames allows you to potentially shoot down any small fliers blocking your path. Cards I would like to put in: Fervor, Anger and Akroma's Memorial would allow any dragons that enter the field to have haste (with akroma adding a slew of goodies and protection). Door of Destinies could allow you to grow your dragons even more. Gratuitous Violence and Fiery Emancipation would allow you to double and triple your damage. Rage Reflection granting double strike would be nice. I would prioritize Fervor, Anger and Akroma's Memorial, as haste is such a beautiful thing, as it helps make up for lost time due to how expensive your dragons can be. I am not sure what I need to remove to fit them into the deck.

Lastly, Hellkite Tyrant is a pretty nifty dragon, acting as a potential win condition on its own. My deck has plenty of artifacts as is, and I typically play against 2-3 (sometimes even more) opponents in a game. Reaching the 20 artifacts owned is doable, the hard part would be keeping it, the artifacts, and yourself alive until it is once more your turn (Suddenly that wall of text I wrote on protection is looking a lot more appealing). Another fun synergy with that is Hellkite Igniter, if that can sneak on by you can pump its damage insanely high due to all of the artifacts! Need to see about getting some haste in the deck to help it connect...

Thanks all for reading!

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