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Conflux
Sorcery
Search your library for a white card, a blue card, a black card, a red card, and a green card. Reveal those cards and put them into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
TheForsakenOne on
Omnath, locus of all
5 months ago
You need a lot more cards that trigger Omnath, ideally you want to be hitting it every single turn but with lands that's already not going to happen. You barely have 6 cards in the deck that he'll trigger on, and while he will still draw you a card each turn you want to be adding that free mana. If you want a more goodstuff commander I'd recommend switching to Kenrith, the Returned King as a card that has more general value.
You seem to have a lot of just bad cards in here, giving the impression that you built this out of the cards you have lying around. Everyone has to start there, I did the same when I was starting out, but a lot of these go straight to the cutting floor. Aegis Turtle, Campus Guide, Sanguine Syphoner, Gutless Plunderer, Scytheclaw Raptor, Stromkirk Bloodthief, Hoverstone Pilgrim, Misleading Motes, Pilfer, Navigation Orb, Prophetic Prism, Tithing Blade Flip, and Clawing Torment are all on this list.
You also seem to have a weird sacrifice subtheme with Ravenous Amulet, Vampire Gourmand, Dreg Recycler, Ayara, First of Locthwain, Vein Ripper, and Liliana, Dreadhorde General. The problem with this is that you just don't have good token generators or sacrifice fodder to support this outside of Liliana, not to mention its complete disconnect from the Omnath theme. I'd cut them all except for Liliana and Vein ripper since those are just good cards by themselves.
For other miscellaneous cuts: Rest in Peace is probably unnecessary for the power level you're looking to play at, most of the time it's going to sit dead in your hand. You don't really have enough enter the battlefield effects for Blur to pull its weight. And you don't really seem to be putting out creature numbers necessary for Campaign of Vengeance to be worth the 5 mana. Invasion of Ravnica Flip is a decent card but the flip cares about 2 color pairs which seems out of place in this deck.
And are you sure you want to keep the infinite combo? Your deck is very low power, while that wincon is something more akin to something higher up. People are going to see you pull off the infinite out of nowhere and then have the perception of your deck based off of that when it'll probably only do it once every dozen or so games. I heavily suggest cutting Marauding Blight-Priest to avoid this.
For what you should add:
Pick and choose from the and cycles, those are pretty consistent 3 color spells that trigger Omnath.
Other suggestions: Villainous Wealth lets you turn all that mana into free spells of your opponents deck. A wincon in of itself.
Rienne, Angel of Rebirth if you put in more multicolored legends then this is a godsend, letting you play them over and over.
Maelstrom Nexus triggers Omnath and is just a really good card for casting big things like you want to.
Kodama's Reach is a second cultivate, which you definitely want.
Mirror Room / Fractured Realm copies a creature or doubles the triggers of all your stuff, including your commander.
Conflux tutors you three cards which is just great and with all the mana you should have you can have a nasty turn with this.
Annie Joins Up is removal and doubles your commander trigger. Also triggers Omnath's draw.
Wargate lets you tutor out whatever Permanent you need directly onto the battlefield, and is a good X spell for all your mana. Also see Chord of Calling or Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer for creatures specifically.
Yurlok of Scorch Thrash is great for adding a ton of mana over several turns. Also triggers Omnath
Sphinx's Revelation to turn that mana into a ton of lifegain and card draw.
Victory Chimes nets you 4 mana a turn with Omnath.
Koma, World-Eater is just a big guy that creates a bunch of tokens and is hard to get rid of. Also triggers Omnath.
Faeburrow Elder is another bloom tender that's also a 5/5 for 3 if you have a decent board.
Aragorn, the Uniter loves you casting multicolored spells because he'll trigger multiple times for each.
Zacama, Primal Calamity can be devastating with the amount of mana you can store. You can cripple your opponents with a string of her abilities.
Muldrotha, the Gravetide is great for recursion to spend all that mana. You'll basically never run out of things to play.
From your Maybeboard: Kroxa and Kunoros should be fun, and Polukranos Reborn Flip is just a decent creature that also triggers Omnath. Rebuild the City is decent mega ramp that also creates bodies. If you add enough 3 color stuff Meeting of the Five would be great for a massive turn (I would also suggest Threefold Signal if you hit that level). Everything else I don't think is worth adding, you seem to have ambitions for Battle synergy but most of those don't trigger Omnath, I think that would be better saved for another deck.
Tl;Dr: Add more stuff that triggers Omnath and cut out the bulk. Add more ramp and think long and hard about if you do really want that infinite in a deck that cannot match it's power level and the hate it will bring on you.
Nunu312 on
Calling All Doctors!
7 months ago
While I might like to suggest Maskwood Nexus... I don't actually think it helps you considering the lack of non-doctor creatures. It may still be useful though for pushing you over the line to reach 13.
Three Tree City is a card that might be good though.
K-9, Mark I is really good. Your board state is very important to you so forcing people to pay just a little extra to interfere with it might help you edge out a game. But at the same time, several of the doctors have to attack to activate their abilities and this will help them not die when the do so. Psychic Paper and can also do something rather similar, but might also get you that extra doctor you need. Brotherhood Regalia is another similar card.
I like where you're going with Glasspool Mimic Flip, but it wont bypass legendary. Instead Sakashima the Impostor and Sakashima of a Thousand Faces can both help get around this. Even if they aren't also land.
Similarly Mirror Box is good... but doesn't synergise with what you're doing as you don't have many duplicators for it to work with. I feel like you were going a bit more for Helm of the Host?
All in all though, these are just minor tweaks, the question is what part of the game does this deck operate around? Many of the doctors are spread over a lot of the game, which leads to them being quite unfocused. But I feel you are bringing this towards being a very upkeep centric deck? The question is how to maximise that. It will help Gallifrey Stands go off, but will also help your suspended cards and other triggered effects.
Lithoform Engine could help you in several ways, duplicating doctors, but also duplicating the trigger effect of Gallifrey Stands. While not quite as useful, Annie Joins Up will also double the triggers on your doctors. Roaming Throne is also a trigger doubler... though it's a little dull because it's in every bloody deck now.
Paradox Haze similarly gets you that extra upkeep, but it falls into the problem that a lot of such things do... One extra upkeep per turn is good, but a turn is a long time. While it may be the best option, a way to get creatures into play might be a better slot in your deck?
But there is also another two problems all decks have, mana and getting the right cards. Firstly, mana. You have a lot of expensive cards and you want to be able to cast all of them. Lotus Petal is good... but I don't see it being better than a normal mana rock as you have no ability to recurse it for free. Herald's Horn would probably be better as it can remove about 25% off the cost of all your important cards, and lets you take a peek for them. Leyline of the Guildpact can help with mana fixing, though wont actually set you ahead, as would Three Tree Mascot (which also counts as a doctor). Patchwork Banner is a newer mana rock that helps buff your guys a little. Mirari's Wake is also a solid mana doubler, if a little expensive.
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is also very cheap and solid, though works better if you have more mana rocks.
You've got a bit of recursion from The Eighth Doctor, which is more likely to turn up due to your commander, but that means that you can take advantage of the search lands. It would require changing out a lot of the land you do have, but if you use the typed dual lands like Canopy Vista or Godless Shrine
(because you may need 1 mana more than 2 life), you can search for them and then recurse the search land like Flooded Strand (which could search for any dual land as long as it's part plains or part island). If you want to find what land works like this it's best to google mtg land or some such, there are whole websites dedicated to it.
Considering you're running 5 colours, Bloom Tender and Faeburrow Elder can also help supercharge your mana.
As for getting cards, I feel like you've got a decent search to get the doctors, but you are a little lacking in turn to turn draw. This often means you'll end up sitting in a game with only one card to play a turn and that's not fun. The One Ring is another groan worthy staple for how good it is (and therefore in everything), but only really relevant if you're running proxies. Collector's Vault is something I'm fond of, while it wont give you card advantage, it's cheap and you don't really mind discarding doctors anyway. Sylvan Library is also insanely powerful.
A lot of the search you do use is really expensive as well. Conflux and Diabolic Revelation are good... but they each cost a huge amount of mana, after which you still have to actually cast the cards. These are things that might help you on turn 10+ without a lot of acceleration. Instead something to get your creatures directly onto the battlefield like Victimize or possibly Pyre of Heroes.
Anyway, that's enough from me for now. Remember, look for cards that get you to your win conditions. Omniscience is great, but only if you can cast it AND if you've got the cards to play AND they are cards that lead you to victory. Perhaps 1 mana per turn or 2 cards might have been more useful.
The5thHorseman on
5 Paths, Infinite Destinations.
1 year ago
NV_1980 I have been back and forth on things to cut and add in this deck including mana dorks. I would like to add one, if not both of them. Any suggestions on swaps? Currently the deck works on an Omniscience + Conflux line for an instant basically un-interactable win. I find value in almost every card at the moment so outside insight would be appreciated.
raincoat on
G.I. Jo(dah)
2 years ago
Thoughts on Conflux? Can potentially be too slow, but I find it very useful for tutoring Omniscience & a bunch of other power cards.
kirbysan on
[Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*
2 years ago
Last game of the year! Sorry I've taken over your comment board, hope all these gameplay interactions help!
Opponents: Koma, Cosmos Serpent, Muldrotha, the Gravetide, Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools / Armix, Filigree Thrasher
Starting Hand: Marsh Flats, Plains, Sol Ring, Serra Ascendant, Serra Avenger, Court of Grace, Breathkeeper Seraph
T1 - Marsh Flats into Plains into Serra Ascendant
T2 - Plains into Sol Ring and Luminarch Ascension (drew into), swung in for 6 damage
T3 - Plains into Court of Grace, drew on endstep, swung in for another 6 damage
T4 - +1 Angel on upkeep, Plains into Giada, Font of Hope and held up mana to make 2 Angels, drew on endstep, swung in for another 6 damage
T5 - created 2 Angels (6 power & 7 power) on opponents end step, +1 Angel (8 power) on upkeep. Cast a Tome of Legends getting ready for the boardwipe. Swung in for 21 damage, drew on endstep.
T6 - nobody at the table had the boardwipe so I cleaned up next turn with Sigarda's Vanguard knocking out each other player simultaneously. I think this was the fastest this deck has ever performed in a 4-man pod and all the damage was dealt by me.
Opponents: Koma, Cosmos Serpent, Muldrotha, the Gravetide, Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools / Armix, Filigree Thrasher, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami
Starting Hand: Windswept Heath, Arid Mesa, Plains, Bonders' Enclave, Serra Paragon, Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld, Archangel of Thune
Thought about not including this one either as it was a slow hand and a fast game. Muldrotha comboed out turn 4 making 2 million squirrels and nobody had any interaction so we were dead on turn 5.
Opponents: Koma, Cosmos Serpent, Muldrotha, the Gravetide, Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools / Armix, Filigree Thrasher, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami
Starting Hand: Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Plains, Plains, Pyre of Heroes, Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld, Battle Angels of Tyr, Angelic Curator
I had played Battle Angels of Tyr but it was quickly removed by Tevesh before I could swing with it, which is fair given a 5-man pod.
Instead I went for the slower play with Giada, Font of Hope, Angelic Curator and Angelic Sleuth on the field. I held Pyre of Heroes in hand thinking I would go for the Inspiring Overseer / Serra Paragon line to draw into some cards and get some clues.
However, Muldrotha again was a huge problem turn 5. They had Scute Swarm and cracked some fetches and played green ramp spells bringing up their total to the low 100s but they only had 32 they could attack with. They decided to swing all of them at me as I was the only one with any sort of board presence. O-Kagachi let the table know they had a fog effect but we elected to use it on the next turn.
At this point I had Giada, Font of Hope, Angelic Sleuth, Righteous Valkyrie and Pyre of Heroes on the battlefield. Once Muldrotha had started producing massive amounts of Scutes I knew they were coming at me. Also I had drawn into Archangel of Thune which I played and swung in bringing me back up to the low 20's.
On turn 6 O-Kagachi used the fog and Muldrotha just set themselves up better for the next round. They cast a Sandwurm Convergence to stop me from knocking them out.
Tevesh decided this was the best time to go off so they tapped out for a Peer into the Abyss. A lot of artifact shenanigans happened and they ended up at 4 life due to Bolas's Citadel, nearly wiped the board with Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and killed Muldrotha with an artifact creature with Cranial Plating and Lightning Greaves. Unfortunately they didn't see that O-Kagachi was out and only -5 for Ugin so they were dead to the dragon on their turn.
I was able to build back relatively quickly as I drew into a Thorough Investigation and cracked some clues. O-Kagachi became the new archenemy as they had their commander out and a Fist of Suns so they were casting high-costed cards with the limited mana they had. Koma used Kiora, the Crashing Wave to negate the damage of O-Kagachi's commander. They also countered a Conflux which could've ended the game.
I tried to swing in once but was stopped by a fog. I also made another misplay with Oblation targeting their Myojin of Seeing Winds as I misheard thinking it was a 10/10 flying indestructible when it was a 3/3 that didn't even fly. They removed the divinity counter drawing 12 and drew another 2 off Oblation. Next turn they cast a Morophon, the Boundless and dropped all the spirits they drew off those 14 cards. If I had held up my Oblation for their fist of the suns instead they would have had no mana for anything else and I could've swung in for the win.
Court of Grace was also amazing here. While 1 card a turn is not the best for 4 mana, 1 card and 1 angel for 4 is amazing. Obviously the Sol Ring did work in getting it out early but against slower decks they had no way to attack me regardless.
Pyre of Heroes was actually useful this time! Pitching the 2/2 body of Angelic Curator into a Righteous Valkyrie is a strong move. I was only able to use it once before the Ugin exile but it helped keep me in the game. Without it, I would've been dead right after Tevesh finished off Muldrotha, perhaps even in the same turn.
Sigarda's Vanguard was also great again. However if I'm not planning out dropping my angels out in the correct turn order then I'm not always getting the full benefit from her. Akroma's Will would save us the headache of counting and planning while also providing the evasion to get through flying creatures. I think I'll still stick the Vanguard as the light recursion package allows us to bring her back on another turn for additional value whereas Will would just languish in the graveyard.
We had a turn 0 discussion before games 2 and 3 and agreed on playing more mid-tier decks as I only brought Giada. The Muldrotha player typically durdles with nothing to do and decided to add in some spicy cards not knowing how they'd perform. Tevesh doesn't always go off like this but Peer into the Abyss is usually a card that gets countered. The table let it resolve due to needing to knock out Muldrotha first.
DemonDragonJ on
Clash of the Titans
2 years ago
I have replaced Rune-Scarred Demon with Conflux, because this is the only deck of mine in which I can put that card, which regrettably increased the average converted mana cost of the deck from 4.5 to 4.52, but I am certain that the power of that card shall make up for its higher cost.
legendofa on When did you start playing, …
3 years ago
I started playing with the first Portal, kinda. That was the first set I got cards from. I spent the next few years off and on, getting bits and pieces of collections from people who were leaving the game or offloading bulk commons and uncommons. (I managed to get both Pardic Firecat and Diligent Farmhand and had no idea what Burst meant. I thought it was some action, like untapping, that the rules later dropped.) I started digging in a little deeper in Time Spiral block, then really jumped in with Alara. Since then, I've been either in deep or sitting out.
Favorite block is Alara. It was the one that I really got in with (if you missed that two sentences ago). I usually prefer multicolor builds to monocolor builds, and I wasn't in for most of Apocalypse and Ravnica. It has a unique and deep setting insert Return to Alara screed here. And the cards are just cool: Maelstrom Archangel, Godsire (Secretly pandering to the OP? Never!), Progenitus, Wall of Denial, Conflux, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, Lich Lord of Unx... Add in stuff like Ad Nauseam, the Cascade mechanic, and Noble Hierarch, and the introductions of Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker, Sarkhan Vol, Tezzeret the Seeker, and Elspeth, Knight-Errant, and it had something for everyone. Planeswalkers were still brand new, and colored artifacts were a shocking and semi-controversial twist.
I don't like the one-set model. I understand that the three-set model and even two-set model had general dropoff after the first set, but the current model is too much, too fast. The mechanics are underdeveloped and unsupported. (In agreement with "it's always been that way" doesn't make it a good thing. I'm still waiting for Provoke to come back.) The planes are either shallow, limited in scope, or "open for exploration when we return" which may or may not happen.
The biggest and most disappointing change for me, though, is the official website. It used to have multiple articles a week: Making Magic, Savor the Flavor, From the Lab, Building on a Budget, Arcana, Card of the Day, theme weeks, it was all fun. Now, it's a couple of third-party articles, occasional short stories for the lore, and a bunch of promotion and self-advertising.
With my "it was better in my day" out of the way, I think the fundamentals of the game are in good shape. Aside from some cosmetic differences and minor rules updates, it's still the same game I was playing fifteen years ago, and there's a lot to be said for that. Sure, there's been some power and complexity creep, but aside from a couple of high-profile missteps that aren't totally without precedent (Urza block -> Mirrodin Affinity -> Zendikar Caw-Blade -> Throne of Eldraine/Ikoria), it's been well controlled compared to other popular TCGs. A deck from five, ten, twenty years ago can still find a home at least at the casual tables.
Medusala on
Jodah Archmage of Titans
3 years ago
Hey dude - looking at your board clear for when you're behind/creating board advantage with Jodah. Have you considered In Garruk's Wake and Plague Wind? They'd be a huge help and they're relatively cheap to get a hold of.
I'd also ditch a lot of the colourless mana generators for something that keeps the Jodah engine alive/further leverage the ability. They're often counterproductive for the game plan. Perhaps cards such as Conflux for a powerful tutor effect or Genesis Ultimatum / Selvala's Stampede for a good splurge of CMC on the to board? Alternatively protection i.e. Flawless Maneuver to keep Jodah around to keep it all going - all better alternatives to Thran Dynamo etc. :)
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