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Typhoid Rats Discussion
1 week ago
Concise list of considerations:
The Rack single target is really crappy in EDH
Wheel of Torture Same effect as The Rack except it hits everyone.
Skullcage Hits all opponents who don't have either 3 or 4 cards in hand.
Raiders' Wake Another Caress/Megrim effect, except this one makes your opponent discard if you attack.
Quest for the Nihil Stone Anyone without a hand gets domed for 5 during their upkeep...seems good.
Bloodchief Ascension Self Explanatory card
Mindcrank This is a great card in a discard centric deck.
Get rid of all of these cards Bog Rats, Carrion Rats, Deathmask Nezumi (it's a nombo with everything you're doing), Drainpipe Vermin, Gutter Skulk, Nezumi Cutthroat, Pestilence Rats, Ravenous Rats, Swarm of Rats, and Typhoid Rats.
Relentless Rats Replace all of the cards removed with these. You are not restricted to a single copy, per EDH rules, because Relentless Rats specifically states that card limitation requirements do not apply to it.
Get rid of anything that is single target discard! Especially Raven's Crime, since you don't have enough lands that you can afford to be ditching them for a single discard.
Add more things that hit everybody, such as Necrogen Mists or are renewable.
Specter's Shroud Might be worth looking into.
You need more board wipes. You have one 9 CMC board wipe with only 32 lands in the deck. The Hyper-geometric distribution doesn't give you very good odds of pulling the lands you need in order to keep the board clear. Consider Bontu's Last Reckoning, Yahenni's Expertise, Crux of Fate (which may work to your favor with all the Dargon decks running around), Damnation is a given but it's pricey, Life's Finale, Kindred Dominance, and Necromantic Selection are all decent options.
Liliana of the Dark Realms is a much better Lili for a deck like this because you need ramp and that Ult is ridiculous plus it combos with...
Let's talk about your mana base for a second...
Thirty two lands? Even for a very cavalier spell slinger deck, that is a very low amount to play. I play a Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest deck on 36 and struggle some times to reach a critical mass of mana/spells. Don't fall into the trap of "I'll cut a land for this cheap spell; it'll be fine." Again, math and probability will not be on your side in the late game, not unless you're willing to invest in Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or Cabal Coffers. An alternative might be to run Crypt of Agadeem but it's really no substitute for those lands.
Lastly, jam a Bojuka Bog or a Scavenger Grounds or both in there for graveyard hate, along with your choice of Strip Mine, Ghost Quarter, and/or Field of Ruin because if you can't have your Crypt or Coffers, why should they?
Hope this helps, good luck!
2 weeks ago
Like I said about Typhoid Rats: serious decks. Looked at both mtggoldfish and mtgtop8, for any and all modern decks, whether competitive or budget, that used it, ever since they started recording modern decks. And exactly 0 hits on either of the pages. Maybe it's just because we all are a little slow on the uptake, and haven't understood the greatness of pinging strategies. In that case, I look forward to the pinging winter (like the eldrazi winter, but with deathtouchpinging decks instead... we could call it "the pinguin-winter"), most especially the inevitable buyout of key pieces for the deck, like Typhoid Rats - I am gonna make so much money of that price spike, yes sir, I have a bunch of rats that'll be worth a fortune.
Scavenging better than Scavenging Ooze? Can't recall that, but it could be in PickleNutzs varolz-scavenge-deathsshadow deck, in which case I fully stand by what I said (in that specific context, and as the deck looked at that time).
Your stompy deck looks a lot better than this aggro-I-block-you-to-death deck.
2 weeks ago
Xyros, no offense but having numerous discussions with you on various decks and on forums. (Remember you tried to tell me that standard Scavanger card was not a worse Scavenging Ooze?) I really can't take your opinion on anything serious. Maybe you're still learning magic or maybe you just enjoy the theory game more?
Not everything is as black and white as it reads.
Mistcutter started out on the side but was moved to main because it fits this deck quite well. Not just vs based control decks. You block with Permeating Mass, not swing an expect them to block you. Typhoid Rats is a decent card. I've ran it in other decks, I've seen it used in pinging stratedgies and guess what, it trades with almost anything. Can't ask for too much more in a 1 drop. You linked me to a stompy deck, something I'm quite familiar with and don't wish to to turn this into. You can go criticize my stompy build here. MGS.
In the mean time, I invite you to go on Untap and give this a few spins before offering any more advice on it.
2 weeks ago
I think what bothers me about this deck, is how many of the creatures comes with a "some set-up required", and not really enough pieces to set them up properly. A Gnarlwood Dryad without delirium is not a good card. It's a Typhoid Rats in green (and you don't see any serious black decks in modern, budget or not, playing that one). Wolfbriar Elemental without ramp, so you have to wait very long for mana to pay the kicker cost, or accept that you are playing a 4/4 for 4 (which is pretty underwhelming, as modern-playable creatures go). Permeating Mass doesn't really "get past" anything - no one bothers blocking a creature that deals 1 damage, at the cost of their main attackers or combo piece-creatures. Predator Ooze is good, but it takes time, before it really becomes a threat. Mistcutter Hydra is really a sideboard card - awesome against UW-control, but takes a long time to save up mana for, and is of mediocre size compared to casting cost. And I'm not in doubt that Old-Growth Dryads do well - come down turn 1, hitting for 3 pr. turn, the next 2 turns. But by far the most modern decks run a few basics, because of Blood Moon.
To be bit silly about it: This seems like all the creatures that made it to the final round of auditions for a role in monogreen stomp, but was then turned down. They could all be stars in another deck with a slightly different theme - delirium, ramp, something. But for handing out 20 damage in the shortest time possible, they fall short.
Overall, it seems like you plan on games going long, and have taken half the sideboard into maindeck (if the reason for bringing a card is that "it is good against...", you should consider if it actually belongs in the maindeck). This type of cards slows down your deck, and ensures that games go long (and that is still better for midrange and control decks, than for you). It feels a bit like planning to lose. For comparison: Stomping the ground. Short, sharp, and to the point. Creatures that do not really need set-up, you just play them and turn them sideways as fast as possible.
3 weeks ago
Well as a rule of thumb, the lower the mana curve the better. You don't want uncastable cards stuck in hand.
Reaper of the Wilds is an overall okay card. The 4/5 body is kind of meh for 4 mana (Tasigur, the Golden Fang for example is typically cast for 1 mana). The scry is nice but dependent on board presence. Deathtouch is relevant during board stalls but you could add it to your deck by swapping out Slitherheads for Typhoid Rats if you wanted. What my point is that Reaper doesn't suck but it's not the game winning card you want for 4 mana. You could run Nissa, Voice of Zendikar for less and Creakwood Liege in that slot. Which both have more of an impact.
1 month ago
2 months ago
Typhoid Rats, Gifted Aetherborn, Monastery Swiftspear, Ornithopter are just some examples of better 0-2 drops you can add to your deck, in multiple copies preferably, and within the price range you want