|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Masters 25 (A25)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Uncommon|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Uncommon|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Uncommon|
|Fifth Dawn (5DN)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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Creature — Rat
Relentless Rats gets +1/+1 for each other creature on the battlefield named Relentless Rats.
A deck can have any number of cards named Relentless Rats.
Relentless Rats Discussion
1 week ago
Gabriel Angelfire, Planeswalker -
Legendary Planeswalker - Gabriel
+2 - Until your next turn, target creature gains Flying, First Strike, or Rampage 3.
-3 - Create a 5/5 Angel Creature token with flying and vigilance.
-8 - Return all angels and humans from all graveyards to the battlefield under your control, then exile all demons, vampires, zombies, and skeletons.
Make a fair card that has Relentless Rats 's text about being used in as many copies in a deck as you want.
3 weeks ago
Amazing suggestions LordBlackblade! I am so glad you said "ever-spicey" because you are so right about Grafdigger's Cage haha. I do have a friend that is considering putting a Gaea's Blessing into his deck when he heard I was doing mill so I think I will take on board all of the suggestions so far as they are all very heavily themed towards stopping cards like that. So, it makes sense to take that seriously and I'll make some changes.
Also, very interesting suggestion regarding the Relentless Rats - I never would have considered those as a mill tactic. I'll fiddle with a prototype changing in the rats.
3 weeks ago
I want to second what cdkime said about diversifying your strategy. One of my decks is a Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck, and when there's a mill deck in my pod the victory is pretty much a given. I have two suggestions, one is pretty easy to implement, and the other requires considerably more alterations but from my experience can be quite powerful!
First, you could run Leyline of the Void to absolutely wreck graveyard decks. Add a few tutors, Demonic Tutor or Vampiric Tutor to increase the odds of getting it. It's obviously not perfect because it is just one card, but it helps massively against decks that would gain advantage from your milling. Other options in this vein include Relic of Progenitus , Tormod's Crypt , Nihil Spellbomb , and the ever-spicy Grafdigger's Cage .
The second strategy is to make your deck into a "hidden" theme deck utilizing Relentless Rats . One of the mill decks in my meta uses this strategy and more often than not, it works. With enough Relentless Rats out, they'll get pretty big butts that you can utilize with Phenax, God of Deception to mill your opponent out in one go. If that plan fails, or they're mill resistant ( Gaea's Blessing , Eldrazi Titans) you can just stomp their faces in with your rat army.
drpeppercan on Rats
1 month ago
Something to remember is that every red deck you come across will probably have Electrickery in the sideboard, so you will need to answer that in some way. It's worth having some more Relentless Rats in either the main or sideboard. Worth considering Dash Hopes for decks which don't get defenses up early as a 5 life swing is not something they can deal with. Both Night's Whisper and Sign in Blood are decent common draw spells for you, with Sign giving the added benefit of being a shock against your opponent.
1 month ago
I still think Devoid cards should be able to go in ANY deck. They are Colorless, why should they be stopped from going in whatever?
My justification for this was cards overriding rules, like Relentless Rats .
Don't get your hopes up though, I was extremely unpopular with this opinion during spoiler season/release.
1 month ago
I LOVE THE DECK. I'm actually trying to make a Persistent Petitioners Reanimator deck right now, but I wasn't able to figure out what to target with reanimation spells. You figured it out though.
1) Take out Thrumming Stone , yes the card can do broken things, but I don't know how beneficial it will actually be in this deck. Also the decks that it is used in are very straight forward ones with no set up ( Relentless Rats and Rat Colony ), not things that need set up ( Shadowborn Apostle ).
2) Take out Avacyn, Angel of Hope , yes she is a great card, but when she's the only big body in a deck the body itself won't do much the same way mill doesn't do much to a group of 3 opponents. Also what in this deck would your opponents want to blow up on your battlefield? In the end she is just a defensive card in this deck that will take way too much set up to benefit from.
4) The mana base, before I get into my suggestions on the mana base I will just say any base can benefit from a ton of fetchlands and other things like that and I'm not gonna sit here and just tell you to add in every fetchland in your colors. Now to my suggestions, cut all taplands they hurt a deck much more than you may think.
Cuts in the Land Base:
J) As far as I can tell you don't seem like you'll be going to combat much and if you're not then Glacial Chasm would be great.
BTW, when I finish designing my deck list I'll let you know what it is in the comments here so you can take a look at if you want.
1 month ago
I chose Rat Colony instead of Relentless Rats because they are one mana cheaper and Rat Colony gets a +1/+0 buff for each other rat on the battlefeild where as Relentless Rats get a +1/+1 for each other relentless rat on the battle feild. So I went with more synergy with the commander than anything. The Rat Colony are more prone to a blowout but swinging with the crazy amount of rats it doesnt really matter.
1 month ago
Relentless Rats occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%