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|Shards of Alara (ALA)||Common|
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Creature — Cat Warrior
Wild Nacatl gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain.
Wild Nacatl gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.
Wild Nacatl Discussion
6 days ago
This list is pretty close to the traditional 'little kid green/white' lists from a long while back, but it will need some tinkering and a clearer gameplan.
There are a bunch of options; Bant Sureblade , Dromoka's Command , Dryad Militant , Emmara, Soul of the Accord , Gaddock Teeg , Huatli's Raptor , Naya Hushblade , Oath of Ajani , Qasali Pridemage , Gnarlwood Dryad , etc.
In particular though, Pelt Collector is another four experiment one, which lets you drop your curve lower to the floor and run Dryad Militant . Qasali Pridemage is an answer to bridge, which is practically mandatory in this meta. Gnarlwood's deathtouch helps answer the wealth of 'huge creature turn two' decks out there.
If you aren't running removal, this means you are always racing your opponent, so you should look at your clocks and try to win as fast as possible- modern is full of both combo and aggro decks structured like this. Traditionally naya for Wild Nacatl Loam Lion and Kird Ape is the thing, but going to three colours on a budget manabase is tricky- especially if you want to go fast.
More midrange strategies with budget mana tends to be more relaiable- Keep your turn 1-2-3 plays in one colour and accelerate into a duel colour 5 drop. Great 5 drops like Thragtusk are cheap. 'Get bigger' creatures like Warden of the First Tree and Hexdrinker are readily available, and cards like Oust or Oblivion Ring fix a lot of problems. Birds of Paradise has gotten expensive over the years- for pristine playsets. Check the damaged lists out there- there are a lot of cheap copies in circulation.
3 weeks ago
Rather than dropping 'titanic creatures', I would say zoo is more about flooding the board with low cmc creatures; cards like Goblin Guide , Kird Ape , Wild Nacatl , etc. The modern Naya Zoo decks that were a thing a while ago are an example.
Bigger creatures like the ones you listed are too big (cmc-wise) to be part of a zoo deck; a deck playing those would be considered a ramp/stompy deck by most people. GR Dinos in standard is an example of that. In fact, it's better to say that zoo is a branch of stompy, as the tag stompy can apply to all zoo decks but not all stompy decks are zoo decks. And, as Grixis776 said, the name 'zoo' was a originally nickname created to describe aggro decks that played creatures that were animals ( Kird Ape , Wild Nacatl ).
2 months ago
Again I have to emphasize that without something tangible to compare to, I don't know what makes your Soulbond idea work better than the idea of Caretaker. Please provide some tangible ideas of how you would make this mechanic and put it on some creatures.
"First-off, it’s too similar to old Naya."
- Well... you do actually want to make it feel like it came from Naya, don't you?
"But more importantly, it doubles down on what made Naya the least popular shard- that is, that “power 5 or greater” is really tough to secure because most creatures in that range cost four or more mana, which basically disqualifies it from most competitive environments. It’s just too slow to be functional."
- Are you seriously saying that 4+ CMC is non competitive? In what format? Modern, Vintage and Legacy? Sure in most settings hard casting a 4 CMC dumb Beast is likely not something you want to do in those formats, but are we really designing cards for the sole purpose that they should appear in competitive eternal formats? In Standard? No way is that too slow.
I strolled through War of the Spark standard decks on MTGtop8.com. We have a group of Esper Midrange who utilizes fringe amount of Hostage Taker , a bit more uses Elite Guardmage and all uses Teferi, Hero of Dominaria . That's a midrange deck with no efficient ramp access.
And these are just the most present aggro decks and only one of whom utilizes mana ramp. If I go to UR aggro (next in line) they have Arclight Phoenix (although they may not actually cast it) and Crackling Drake
So I think it's wrong to say that 4 CMC cards are non-competitive.
It's also quite possible to make cards with the Caretaker idea that is definitely going to see play in eternal formats. It's just a matter of pushing the cards far enough.
Additionally the border for Naya's threshold doesn't necessarily need to be at 5. It could be at 4 instead to push the mechanic as a baseline a bit more.
But as you said yourself; "Not only that, but both the power # and whether it’s “greater than X” or “less than X” makes it very broad design space, and gives me a lot of good knobs to work with. It’s also the furthest thing I can think of from a parasitic mechanic (which one could argue old Naya’s “power 5 or greater was, given nearly all of the decent power 5+ creatures below 4-5 mana were from Naya at the time, and kinda still today- most are either flip cards or have a serious downside)."
The Power X or greater/lesser than X does grant a certain amount of design space.
I also fail to see how a shifted Soulbond that forces a particular pairing (you said yourself you wanted it to be restrictive pairing) is a better transcending mechanic outside block than a mechanic that have you play lower CMC creatures that can bounce themselves to gain a powerful effect when you play a higher CMC creature.
Thematically, Caretaker plays into the same space as Exploit, except it's the other way around where you first play the mechanic and THEN the enabler, and you only lose tempo and not resources like you do with Exploit - which was a liked mechanic on the Storm Scale.
Based on MTGTop8.com's historic data, the only Soulbond cards who ever made it to competitive eternal formats (here Modern, Legacy, Vintage) are: Deadeye Navigator and Silverblade Paladin . Deadeye is used in 1 Legacy deck back in 2013, and ended up in rank 5-8 out of 8. Silverblade has occurred a few more time, 4 in Modern (3 of whom back in 2012 - 1 year after Modern launch) and 4 in Legacy (mostly in Death & Taxes decks).
Now these data are all taken from one source, granted, but Soulbond as a mechanic doesn't seem like it has shown much competitive potential or at least result. One of the present cards is a combo component. The other is a Double Strike enabler on a body. Double Strike is an incredibly powerful keyword, especially when you can grant it to any creature. The best alternative is Battle Mastery for a permanent Double Strike ability.
Actually looking at it, Spellbreaker Behemoth has 5 entries in Modern but it dies there for him. Woolly Thoctar had 4 in Modern and 2 in Standard. So either the data is just not there for Alara Standard or they made more splashes in Modern than in Standard. Ah and Woolly made 41 entries in Extended (yeah, it was back in those days). I think Naya was kinda overshadowed by the Naya zoo archetype featuring Wild Nacatl .
As for Soulbond's entrance on the Storm scale, MaRo states that the mechanic is very popular but the design space is medium. The template for Soulbond is mostly in P/T upgrades, Evergreen Keywords and occassionally other abilities. Another hindrance is that both paired creatures gets the same effect.
They also say their data may be skewed toward more enfranchised players who are more likely to be competitive. In Standard Soulbond was used quite a lot, especially Wolfir Silverheart , beating Silverblade Paladin but sharing a lot of decks too under Aggro. However Wolfir shows up nowhere in competitive eternal formats.
They haven't made a Storm Scale article about Shards of Alara (or they have hidden it beyond the reach of Google) so where do you get your data on Naya's Power 5 being unpopular with the players? I'm genuinely curious.
The Storm Scale is also a strange way to measure popularity TBH. It kinda pitches the block's mechanics against each other, so if there's a mechanic that overshadows the rest, then you may get a skewed picture compared to considering the mechanics individually. Food for thought I guess.
In conclusion, I don't think a restrictive Soulbond is that much better of a mechanic than what you could do with Caretaker and "Gargantuan". I do however think there's a flavor break on using Soulbond - I don't see the soulbonding between a massive beast and their worshippers. Unless the beasts somehow got way more sentient and actually starts having empathy for their worshippers.
I think you yourself have a dislike of the Naya Power-5 mechanic, so a mechanic that goes somewhat close to what it was is something you dislike. Unless you provide some sauce on the unpopularity of Naya's Power-5, I don't think it's right to say it is disliked as a mechanic. It may not have been a competitively pushed mechanic, but that doesn't mean the mechanic is disliked.
2 months ago
Maybe consider running
? You could also consider
instead of the 1x
, and maybe instead of a few of the
s to reduce the likelihood that you'll need to fetch + shock for a red source you won't properly use.
is another powerful cat, and
could even maybe find a place in this list.
Since your curve tops out at 4x a 5 drop, I'd also suggest trimming 2-3 lands.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!
4 months ago
Very nice! I have no idea if there are any cat lords out there, Metallic Mimic or Adaptive Automaton could fill those roles.(Robo-cats unite!) Also, if you can get your hands on some Wild Nacatl and Rancor , well...
6 months ago
Hey, I also don't have a Arahbo deck, but to take more advantage of eminence (+3/+3 for a Cat) my advice is to keep the mana curve low. Mostly one and two drop Cats, some three drops, couple of four drops and top the curve at five drop Regal Caracal and Arahbo:
Here's an example:
- Loam Lion
- Wild Nacatl
- Savannah Lions
- Jungle Lion
- Steppe Lynx
- Scythe Leopard
- Sacred Cat
- Trained Caracal
- Glittering Lynx
- Fleecemane Lion
- Qasali Pridemage
- Adorned Pouncer
- Metallic Mimic
- Leonin Arbiter
- Leonin Skyhunter
- Ajani's Pridemate
- Leonin Relic-Warder
- Brimaz, King of Oreskos
- Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist
- Skyhunter Skirmisher
- Pride Sovereign
- Mirri, Cat Warrior
- Alms Collector
- Jazal Goldmane
- Leonin Warleader
- Regal Caracal
6 months ago
No Wild Nacatl ? Hard to argue with a 3/3 for one mana, especially in pauper. You'd be able to attack for three right away with a second turn Nylea's Presence.
6 months ago
Seems a bit slow and - terrain elemental, hungry spriggan, young wolf (in this shell), mogg flunkies, seismic stomp, only 2 rancors - are all odd choices, . Now, first suggestions are a bit weird - add white. This will allow you access to two things - Wild Nacatl and since going three colors will necessitate fixing in the form of Evolving Wilds and Naya Panorama , you can include a landfall package as well in Plated Geopede , Steppe Lynx , Snapping Gnarlid , Makindi Sliderunner .
The blades are another option if you do not want to go 3 colors - Naya Hushblade , Jund Hackblade are some of the best creatures for this deck. To facilitate their multicolored-ness, add Wild Cantor instead of wolf for example. Another great GR addition is Giantbaiting .
Wild Nacatl occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%