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Creature — Human Wizard
Morph (2)(Blue)(Blue) (You may play this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Voidmage Apprentice is turned face up, counter target spell.
Voidmage Apprentice Discussion
21 hours ago
I’m not sure that it is such a complex idea as to warrant in-depth reminder text, and, again, I think you run into some issues if you try too hard to dimerise a rather complex rule. However, as alternative reminder text that I think provides what you’re looking for:
(Target spell resolves during the resolution of Resolvespell. That spell’s controller still controls the target spell. If that spell is a permanent spell, the permanent enters the battlefield under its controller’s control, otherwise, it is put into its owner’s graveyard.)
As a slight pedantic point, all spells having split second is not quite the same thing as “all spells resolve immediately” or “all spell can’t be countered.” Split second still allows spells to be countered by creatures with morph, like Voidmage Apprentice , or triggered abilities, like Decree of Silence .
2 months ago
With the 2019 Commander decks coming out, one of which is morph themed, watch out for Voidmage Apprentice Stratus Dancer and worst of all Kheru Spellsnatcher in response to your K. Grip! Also love all the updates to the deck, it looks great!
2 months ago
Staizer - Get ready for a long response:
I did look at the same list as you did, but as a longtime morph player, this deck is a disappointment. I've already made my thoughts on Kadena clear so I'll make that response short.
A bland Sultai value engine that brings nothing new to the table. She isn't a bad card by any means, but she doesn't address any of morph's biggest weaknesses. I'd still play Animar, Soul of Elements , Kruphix, God of Horizons , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and maybe even the new Bant brawl commander over her.
The choice of morph/manifest related reprints
Some fine inclusions. Ixidron , Stratus Dancer , and Vesuvan Shapeshifter are nice, but they chose to exclude most of the best morph/manifest related cards: Dream Chisel , Ixidor, Reality Sculptor , Whisperwood Elemental , Riptide Entrancer , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidmage Apprentice , Aphetto Runecaster , Primordial Mist , Obscuring AEther , Unblinking Bleb , Weaver of Lies , Brine Elemental (though this one actually makes sense), and even Backslide . I would never expect all or even most of those to make it into the deck, but a couple would've been nice and would've made more sense than something like Deathmist Raptor or Silumgar Assassin .
Only Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer are worth mentioning here. I know I sound like a broken record, but none of the new cards help address the issues facing morph: speed and the fact that morph is a value based mechanic that requires a massive mana investment. Morph will always be a casual mechanic, but it needs something that reduces the cost of triggering morph, or something that allows for multiple activations (my hope was for repeatable Backslide effects). Neither of those issues were addressed by the new cards in this deck. I would've been happy with just 1 card that helps in that way...1 card.
Is this a good pre-con for new players? Yes. Does it have value? Yes, though most of the value cards are only that way due to scarcity. I think many will end up tanking in price. Will it win games against the other pre-cons? Probably. Will it win games against even 60% decks? Unlikely.
So is it a good pre-con and I am being extra critical? Maybe, but this mechanic has had a special place in my heart for a very long time (Morph was first introduced when I was a little kid and just starting out playing Magic). I was excited to see morph finally get some needed reprints and support. Instead the new cards aren't that inspiring and the reprints honestly look like they just pulled up Gatherer, typed in "morph", and then picked some of the first things that they found.
5 months ago
For sizing, the bigger counter point is simply color logic - I know of not a single blue 3/2 for 2 blue mana. the closest comparison is Gilded Drake , which while a 3/3 for 2, is given to your opponent as opposed to kept on your side of the field. searching the gatherer for creatures costing "UU", the majority are 2/2s, with a few 1/2s, 2/1s, and the odd 1/4 or 4/1.
I am forced to agree with cdkime - "sliver" is more than a powerful enough mechanic to begin with. especially since morph is less useful to slivers than any other tribe, as the creatures face down have no creature type. the ability to turn face up is much better for triggered creatures, such as Voidmage Apprentice or Weaver of Lies . Creatues without a "when this card turns face up" typically just have a larger mana cost that can be paid over 2 different turns, and that's it.
8 months ago
love the deck - Vesuvan Shapeshifter is one of my all-time faves!
odd cards you might consider:
Ixidor, Reality Sculptor - alternate morph cost, morph roiding
Jeskai Infiltrator - free morphing draw when it hits
Thousand Winds - mass bounce
11 months ago
One more thing; I dun suppose stuff w/ Flash counts as Triggered? Or is it something else entirely?
11 months ago
First, you won't find a mana ability that can counter a spell. Mana abilities, by definition, can't target, so you won't find one with "counter target spell." While one could conceive of a mana ability such as "Add . Exile all spells and abilities on the stack" such an ability does not, and likely never will, exist.
However, that doesn't mean you can't counter a spell with split second--there are two ways to counter that I can think of.
Split Second prevents you from activating abilities, but it does not prevent triggered abilities from occurring. So, if you have a triggered ability which counters a card (such as Decree of Silence), that can still counter a spell with split second.
The second option seems like it should not work, but it does: Morph. Morph is a bit of an unusual ability--it is a special type of action that does not use the stack. As such, you can Morph a creature while a spell with split second is on the stack. Stratus Dancer, Voidmage Apprentice, and several other creatures with Morph counter spells when flipped, which can be used to counter a spell with split second.
2 years ago
Anticipate, Dragonlord's Perogative, Monastery Loremaster*, and Meditate are all thematic cards. They have decent/strong effects that aren't total garbage, but fit the theme of Taigam being a monk of the Ojutai order.
In a similar fashion are cards like Temple Bell, End Hostilities, Sensei's Divining Top, Humble, and Redirect. Almost all of these cards could be stronger versions of themselves, but I like the monastic feel of them.
*Monastery Loremaster deserves special notice because he serves a few different purposes. Since my deck isn't as heavily Instant/Sorcery focused, I will want cards back that just aren't Instants/Sorceries. Being able to get back my Artifacts or Enchantments is a good thing. In addition, it's another Morph. I really like Quicksilver Dragon, and sometimes the morph might come in handy, especially if I don't usually cast it for the morph, but cast the Loremaster for such, then get removal used on that... or if I ever want to toss in a Willbender, Voidmage Apprentice, or Stratus Dancer.
Ultimately, the primary wincon for the deck is Approach of the Second Sun so I don't mind the deck being weird. Though I'm more likely to win out of dragons or the off chance that Taigam goes in for Commander Damage, but they're ancillary modes so I don't have to run things like Mystical Tutor which would be super boring. Though, potentially getting a rebounded Enlightened Tutor could be fun and would be super thematic.
Voidmage Apprentice occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%