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Sultai Emissary
Creature — Zombie Warrior
When Sultai Emissary dies, manifest the top card of your library. (Put that card onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature. Turn it face up at any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
Max_Hammer on Kadena "Surprise tool for later" …
1 year ago
For those that are curious on the changes I made to the deck
What I'm taking out: Show
What I'm putting in to replace it: Show
I also plan on changing out some other lands, but above are the utility lands only.
Masterful on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
Foster_I_Am The broodmoth interaction isn't a consistent reason to run emissary, I meant it as more of a fun fact haha. Hallowed Spiritkeeper is good because its ceiling is high, but compared to other fodder pieces, its floor is low. In comparison, Sultai Emissary has a medium floor and ceiling. Crawling Chorus will definitely have a place instead of Ministrant of Obligation, but I'm still considering replacing emissary with spiritkeeper.
Foster_I_Am on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
Masterful Thanks for that insight! Yeah I thought Sultai Emissary was not that great and my buddies all said "mehh" lol. But now that you explained it that way - ?It might be worth adding in to test. Still not to sure how I feel about manifesting a land. The interaction with Broodmoth seems a bit niche as well. Just doesn't seem all that "consistent"
Of those I do think Ministrant or Sultai might be the cut (leaning towards Sultai). I cut Hallowed Spiritkeeper as well but looking back - It was always a solid card for me, won me a few games haha.
Keep the updates and thoughts coming!
Masterful on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
Foster_I_Amkirbysan Crawling Chorus is definitely a great new addition, even though it's a bit boring. Currently, I'm torn on replacing either sultai emissary, carrier thrall, or ministrant. Here's a breakdown of my thoughts:
- A manifest is not a token, so it triggers all our non-token death triggers, including Grim Haruspex, Midnight Reaper, Pawn of Ulamog, and Luminous Broodmoth. Not that it comes up super often, but manifests have a particularly interesting interaction with broodmoth. If any manifested permanent dies, like a land, it will come back with a flying counter.
- We can flip over the permanent if it's a creature, meaning manifested creatures are not only fodder but card draw. Because we have 35 creatures, Emissary will effectively draw us a card one third of the time.
- The downside is that he's 2 mana for a fodder creature, and the manifest doesn't die to Skullclamp.
- Tokens can sac themselves and provide mana. He effectively pays for himself with Teysa out.
- Both sides die to Skullclamp.
- Unfortunately 2 mana to play.
- With Teysa out, has 5 bodies for one instead of 3.
- 3 mana is even more unfortunate than 2.
Currently, I'm considering ministrant more heavily because of how inflexible 3 mana is. I was already thinking of replacing him for Hallowed Spiritkeeper because of more potential upside, so this might be the right time to replace.
kirbysan on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
Foster_I_Am I vote it replaces Sultai Emissary. It's 1 less and doesn't remove from the top of deck and both creatures are 1/1's so die easily to Skullclamp
Strangelove on The Black Rose Grand Theft
1 year ago
Heyo happy to chime in! +1 m8
-allThreaten effects in favor of payoffs like Mob Rule, etc... or sticks like Big Game Hunter, Evil Twin, etc. Once you hit any of these you'll be doing the same thing (from your opponents' POV): soft-locking the board.
+6-10 Dusk Legion Zealot, draw, ETC ...I feel like these are MVP and lend to an aristocrats style.
-1 Curse of Stalked Prey... too conditional in the late game
-1 Captivating Crew... too much mana
+1 Vigean Graftmage, or anything that can put counters on Marchesa
+1 Plaguecrafter, etc... these are oppressive engines
With a lot more draw + lower cmc removal/ removal-sticks this will slap!
Masterful on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
kirbysan Cult Conscript is probably the second best of the self-reanimators, but I don't think it beats out Reassembling Skeleton. I don't anticipate 1 mana on first play being as much of an issue as potentially not being able to bring it back at all.
Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim is probably not as good of a commander as I initially thought. She doesn't add anything to the engine except an on-hand drain effect which we don't have an issue finding if we can draw enough cards. It's not as much of an issue of playing her early vs her just not doing enough. I'll definitely find a place for her in the 99 as another drainer.
I'm pretty interested in Weatherlight Compleated actually. It does take a while to get online, but 2 generic mana is barely an investment for such a powerhouse down the line. It could be better than Dark Prophecy since is rough. Compared to prophecy, weatherlight doesn't drain life and becomes a creature later which is invaluable.
Sillyprawn Teysa is already our capstone play, so having a card that already relies on her being out is pretty difficult. He's not that useful when she's not out, so I'm hesitant to include him here.
clircrazy Manifesting a non-creature isn't a bad thing. Demonic tutor isn't providing value in your library, and it could've been any card. It feels bad in retrospect, but understand that's result-oriented thinking. Just the fact that Sultai Emissary provides non-token creatures when it dies is value enough. The fact that you can flip the manifests if they're creatures is added value. In my experience emissary has only ever been an amazing addition, but if you really don't like it you can cut it for a card you find more fun.
kirbysan on Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
Sillyprawn, I don't think Ratadrabik of Urborg is worth a slot since we don't run enough legendaries. Sure you can get 2 Teysa's but you're effectively casting 10 mana for 2 and 18 mana for 4. You'll need to already have a sac outlet on the board but if you have no draw or drain then you're stuck. Also having that much mana and 4 Teysa's but no combo is just begging for a wipe.
Weatherlight Compleated does nothing when it hits the board. It needs 7 death triggers to start drawing or 4 with Teysa on board. While it doesn't say non-token I'd find a hard time replacing Dark Prophecy, Grim Haruspex or Midnight Reaper with it.
clircrazy, I also haven't been crazy about Sultai Emissary. Since we don't run much graveyard recursion it can sometimes pitch very important combo cards into the grave and lose us steam. I'd suggest holding it up for later on when it's time to combo out or if you have Bolas's Citadel so you can use it to manifest a land.
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