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Tainted Adversary
Creature — Zombie
Deathtouch
When this enters the battlefield, you may pay any number of times. When you pay this cost one or more times, put that many +1/+1 counters on this creature, then create twice that many 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens with decayed. (A creature with decayed can't block. When it attacks, sacrifice it at the end end of combat.)
BirdieGirlie on Black Parmesan
7 months ago
This is a very, very intriguing start of a decklist!!!! I was just looking at another deck that had the enchantment Skybind - I think it would be fascinating to do a black/white deck combining some of these very powerful ETB effects with the flicker effect of that card, multiplied by Panharmonicon!!!!
Just some random black, white, or black/white cards I think might have good ETB effects for this concept:
Company Commander (I mainly play big casual multi-person games so this suggestion is with that in mind!)
I'd make a list of all the cheap enchantments I think might work for this too, but I see I am already going overboard.
Tbh I am a fairly new player and very new to deckbuilding but thought I'd drop you a line!!!
wallisface on Will Squad Ever Appear in …
8 months ago
For an example of standard-power-level squad, Tainted Adversary is a nice example. The creatures it makes have no inherent abilities, can’t block, and die after swinging. It’s still 3 mana to make them. Conversely, the current squad cards all have relevant abilities and/or evasion stapled to them, and stick-around to gum-up the board and slow the game down.
Sky_Blue_Skies on "Baneslayer Black"
9 months ago
Hey many thanks! The Mutavault + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth package is definitely appealing and something I'd like to keep my eye on going forward, though I've opted out of using them at present due to mana consistency considerations with my 4x Castle Locthwain and 4x Bloodletter of Aclazotz, two absolute cornerstones of this build. (As far as I can tell from watching others play similar decks, you gain a lot of edges by more or less insuring that your mana only helps and virtually never hinders you--Mutavault, while very powerful, is also a recipe for occasional mana screw). Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is also (obviously) appealing if somewhat less competitive, but at this time I'm not even sure what I would do with the extra mana save for spending it occasionally on Tainted Adversary triggers!
TheoryCrafter on The Drowned Perished
10 months ago
Personally, if I were going for redundancy in this deck, I'd have 3 copies of a lesser cost card, like Eaten Alive and Poppet Stitcher Flip and 2 copies of a greater cost card, like Hero's Downfall and Geralf, Visionary Stitcher.
I don't think you have enough instants with a mana value of 2 or less to justify Discover the Impossible in your deck. May I suggest replacing them with either Fading Hope or Joint Exploration? Yes, you won't have any green to pay the kicker cost for Joint Exploration, but your opponents don't have to know that. >:D
May I suggest replacing Revenge of the Drowned with two more copies of either Crawl from the Cellar (for easier access to Poppet and Geralf) or No Way Out (for extra controlling aspects for the deck)? If these do not appeal to you then my next suggestion would be to replace Revenge of the Drowned with more zombie cards to feed into Archghoul of Thraben. May I suggest either Bladestitched Skaab or 2 more copies of Tainted Adversary? If you go with Bladestitched Skaab, I'd recommend replacing one copy of Champion of the Perished with it.
I hope all this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!
wallisface on
10 months ago
Some thoughts:
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don’t include either of those sideboard cards into your deck, they’re bad.
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Profane Tutor is much better than both Grim Tutor and Diabolic Tutor. I’d just run the Profane Tutor and ditch both of these other tutors entirely in favour of more early game interaction (killspells).
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your land count of 28 seems good, especially as Cabal Coffers ”isn’t a land” and won’t be helping you at-all until you have 3 other lands in play anyway. However, you could replace some swamps with Troll of Khazad-dum, as they can act both as land-fetches early game, and large creatures late game.
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if you’re planning on making big mana, Tainted Adversary is going to be a lot more useful than Gifted Aetherborn.
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you never want to be paying more than 2 mana for a killspell. In that vein i’d recommend either Infernal Grasp, Bloodchief's Thirst, or Sheoldred's Edict instead of Murder.
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I don’t think Hypnotic Specter is very useful - a lot of decks will already be empty handed by their own play-patterns before this thing swings. I’d swap it for one of the before-mentioned killspells (or Damnation),… if you really want a creature, maybe something like Tourach, Dread Cantor.
I think the biggest hurdle to this deck is that while you’re probably going to be able to play a land every turn, that’s still pretty slow ramp-wise, so you should be investing a lot more resources into ensuring you can slow the game down in those early turns (by killing your opponents threats) so that you can reliably do stuff with your big spells in the late game.
jarncards on Dead WOMan Walking
1 year ago
Fiend Artisan is green
I think Sidisi, Undead Vizier is awful unless you use a lot of reanimate effects, it's just so expensive to tutor. Geth, Lord of the Vault is crazy strong, but he's a totally different deck most of the time. I'd dump Liliana's Steward too. You and one other player go down a card, putting the rest of the table ahead of you by one card, but they also get to choose, so you're never going to get the card you want out of their hand.
Hobbling Zombie and other cards like it, like Putrid Goblin are excellent at keeping attacks away from you while you build up your board. and the pseudo revival effects let you abuse a lot of other zombie mechanics. Butcher Ghoul, and Geralf's Messenger or Doomed Dissenter are ok too. i wouldnt use Sightless Ghoul though. They are all better than Reassembling Skeleton though. Keep Relentless Dead. Im not sure if they make the cut, but they arent scary, but that means they are good at keeping a target off your back til youre readyfor one.
Magus of the Bridge is great for a non-zombie. Probably use it over Tainted Adversary, i feel like that one just costs way too much before its good. Dreadhorde Invasion is incredibly good, as is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. i'd put those in for sure.Tormod, the Desecrator is still really good. Zombie Trailblazer is devastating to the person sitting to your left in particular or anyone playing five colors/ not black. When you REALLY need someone to not cast a spell. make all their lands swamps during the upkeep. almost every board wipe is a sorcery.
I think you might want to dump Thought Vessel for Mind Stone or even Blood Pet. In many cases discarding is beneficial to zombies. If you want to keep infinite hand size, Zombie Infestation and discard at will cards are pretty helpful.
I think Noxious Ghoul is the single best zombie card in the game, in this deck it basically says, tap your commander, wipe everyone else's boards. Use it.
Sutured Ghoul is runner up. If you include it and other high power zombies like Rotting Regisaur you can put him out as a 20+/xx easily, and then get 2/2s. HE doesnt play nice with mass reanimate, but he's an alternate win condition on his own. also its a great tool since youre probably gonna sac the dino and Phyrexian Soulgorger pretty quickly. If you sacrifice him on the end step before your turn i think you will almost always have a game ending horde.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel is utterly stupid. The absolute best reanimate target you could hope for. and since your card draw is gonna cost a ton of life, hes always going to be valuable. Whip of Erebos is probably the only other reasonable lifegain choice.That one makes aggressive attacking suddenly super safe
Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia is really cheap at making zombies if you dont have any other sources of decayed zombs. they cant block, but you get so many death triggers
Graveborn Muse is great card draw.
Hatred is usually better than Endless Scream
I think Gempalm Polluter is fantastic. its card draw, puts a big zombie into your graveyard, and hurts a player if things are going well.
I don't think Endless Ranks of the Dead is that great, but it certainly is cool. Wand of Orcus is really cool too. I'm not sure if its good though.
Board wipes will shut you down as you have things right now. Crowded Crypt and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, that way, even if there's a board wipe you still have a whole army of zombs to multiply even after everything is dead. Rise of the Dread Marn is another fantastic option that you can abuse if you run things like Carrion Feeder too. Run Carrion Feeder, period. It lets you loop gravecrawler and saves yourself from control magic and exile spells.
Consider Toxic Deluge and STRONGLY CONSIDER Nevinyrral's Disk. Single target removal like tragic slip is ok because you can choose when things die, but other cards like Malicious Affliction are going to miss a lot of key targets. And you absolutely need to have a way to clear artifacts and especially enchantments.
Dark Salvation is pretty cool. not sure if it is good enough, but i'd use it rather than some of your spot removal.
Liliana, Dreadhorde General is really absurdly strong if you can get it out, and even if it dies the next turn you can draw a bunch off of it. Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip you already know is great.
If you diversify your black lands, Field of the Dead is the best land. its silly how good it is. I'll start you off with the autoinclude Unholy Grotto. Malakir Rebirth Flip is too.
I'll see what you make and see if i find anything else. later
Blackgate on Innistrad: Corpse Cobblers (Dimir Decayed)
1 year ago
Tainted Adversary works great and replaces the slot Diregraf Horde had perfectly. Both provide a 3/4 body with two decayed tokens as a turn 5 play but Tainted Adversary has death touch and the flexibility to play it on turn 2 if you already have turn a 5 play God-Eternal Bontu in your hand. Thanks zapyourtumor!
Blackgate on Innistrad: Corpse Cobblers (Dimir Decayed)
1 year ago
I’ll try out Tainted Adversary as it fits the curve the same way as Diregraf Horde. Thanks!