Fated Return

Fated Return


Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. It gains indestructible. If it's your turn, scry 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.)

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Fated Return Discussion

Orange+ on Pinball wizard

1 month ago

Hey, PlutoniumWedding. Thanks for you suggestions :)

Great to know about interactions between Emergent Ultimatum and Fated Return. Details like that are so easy to miss (for me atleast). I'm still hoping combos like fetching something together with Spelltwine and casting it twice is gonna work (?).

The burn category comment is noted. 10 damage isn't necessarily any good. But for me, it's still a fun effect to have available. And as I'm reliant on sub optimal wincons, it's nice to have something to finish off a player. I also really wanted to play Searing Wind for jank reasons.

I'm pretty sure this deck is gonna stay creatureless, just for the hell of it. I don't have any creatureless decks, and the point of this deck was to be able play big funky stuff. I just like the idea of being able to play big janky sorceries that I would never otherwise have been able to play.

I'm probably not gonna change anything to add commander protection either. I hope this deck will be (somewhat) functional even if Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is destroyed every time I cast him. Because I only play large spells, that means I will still have access to plenty of big effects on hand even if I can't activate Golos. This due to the fact that I will probably only cast one thing per turn in such a scenario, and thus naturally sustain a big hand.

So atleast until I need to make improvements (in the case of sub par performance in my play group), I'm not adding any permanent spells to keep the "sorcery tribal" feel, and I'm not adding any spells with CMC less than 5 for the "big stuff" feel.

For the rest of the card suggestions, they are waaay out of my budget. As you may have noticed, this deck is now at a affordable 80$. And I will try to keep it at more or less this price.

Anyways, it is always nice to get feedback, and you have provided plenty! I will definitely keep your suggestions in mind in case I feel the need to make changes

PlutoniumWedding on Pinball wizard

1 month ago


Golos really embodies Timmy edh in that sense of 'I don't care what I'm casting as long as it's big and flashy!', doesn't he? :D

I have a few ideas and comments, in no particular order.

Expropriate seems like it would be one of the big ones for a bit more pay-to-win oomph.

I think Field of the Dead is amazing in Golos decks, since your five colour edh land base is unlikely to contain many duplicate names. It's not the wincon it apparently was in... Historic? But it generates a very steady stream of chump blockers. It's apparently still like $10, though.

Emergent Ultimatuming up a board wipe and Fated Return sadly only works if Golos for some reason is already in the graveyard, since you cast the two spells immediately and will need to choose targets for Fated Return before the wipe resolves. You can of course get some other big thing that's died during the course of the game.

The flat damage spells (Sorin's Vengeance, Searing Wind) seem weak - they only impact the game if someone is already at 10 or less life, and even then only if they're currently the threat. I'd look to those if you need to make cuts for higher quality cards.

Rise of the Dark Realms and Clone Legion are a few ways to get instant boards. Both work very well if you can sneak in an Eternal Witness (or Archaeomancer) as they can recur the little creature for infinite fuel, even though you're of course unlikely to cast either more than once per turn.

Omniscience is a great way to get all the fat spells in your hand to actually be useful. It's wonderful if you get it off of Golos, but perfectly OK to hard cast before emptying your hand of bombs.

I know you're mostly going for instants and sorceries - is there a reason for this? You don't have to have one, but there are a lot of nice permanent bombs that fit the Golos playstyle, like Etali, Primal Storm, Debtors' Knell, Worldspine Wurm and Mind's Dilation. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is a boardwipe that spares Golos and sticks around as a nuisance and possibly even a long-term threat.

Another great card with Golos is Illusionist's Bracers. Twice the madness.

Given the deck's reliance on Golos himself, I'd think it almost mad not to run some protection, such as Lightning Greaves, Darksteel Plate, Swiftfoot Boots, Hammer of Nazahn etc. Counterspells would be an option, but it's so sad to flip them with Golos...

Since Golos ramps on ETB, flicker cards like Teleportation Circle, Soulherder, Conjurer's Closet and Thassa, Deep-Dwelling can each get you one free land every turn, not limited to basics. Running all of them is probably... A different deck. One or two might be nice.

If you do go with that approach, you have lots of options, like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers for lots of mana, The World Tree, Cascading Cataracts and Crystal Quarry for fixing, or utility lands like Maze of Ith and Mystifying Maze. Since these are lands that are perfectly fine to draw on their own, this takes up a lot less deck space than it might initially seem like.

I hope I've given you some ideas at least!

Collateral on Sneak Attack Rogue Tribal

10 months ago

I also have the deck and am thinking about upgrading it. Your curve is a bit off. You want more 3 CMC cards, and cut down on higher CMC costs since you're not in green and ramping is not too easy to achieve. Though you have a decent amount of ramp with the artifacts.

Some things I would consider changing:

I think that's all I can think of, hope it helps :)

carpecanum on "Instant Tribal" - Toshiro Umezawa - EDH PRIMER

1 year ago

Grinning Totem is fun for playing your opponents deck.

Spreading Plague would work later in game at least, especially since none of your "top finishers" are creatures except Mimic Vat and that becomes a weapon of mass destruction. I suggest trying it out.

If you're going to exile all your instants from the GY there might be better equipment than Runechanter's Pike for you. Lots of instants make me want to use Spellbinder and Isochron Scepter. Spellbinder and Fated Return is a lot of fun.

ThoAlmighty on Horobi Targeted Destruction

1 year ago

A friend of mine who runs Horobi uses Fated Return as a way to give Horobi indestructible. He very quickly becomes a target as people don't want their stuff getting targeted and Return is the only way I know of to give indestructible without targeting first.

king-saproling on Toshiro's Samurai Guide - Harikiri Those Instants!

1 year ago

Slaughter could be interesting since it not only triggers Toshiro, but it has buyback so you can recur it indefinitely (even if you cast it using Toshiro's ability). Imps' Taunt works in a similar way and is an interesting form of disruption for mono-black.

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