Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy

Legendary Creature — Human Druid

Whenever you tap a nonland permanent for mana, gain one mana of any type that permanent produced.

: Look at the top five cards of your library. You may put a non-Human creature card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

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TypicalTimmy on Imoti in a Miirym deck

5 months ago

Well, Niv is copied upon ETB, not cast.

So Niv sits on the stack while you Cascade into one of the others.

I actually added Maelstrom Wanderer during my last upgrade to test the waters with it. But your idea likely is a bit more stable.

I was actually thinking of adding Kruphix, God of Horizons to hold onto the mana from Savage Ventmaw and Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient as well as just generally pooling unused mana. Even considered Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy to bypass the whole draw, cast and mana issues. Getting 7+ mana is easy. Getting something to use it on? Eh not so much.

Niko9 on What ONE card would you …

7 months ago

That's a good point that Rofellos doesn't need the same one-line 99 that Marwyn does, but yeah, neither of them are busted at all. Giving mono green access to more mana just doesn't cut it anymore. A tuned green deck by turn 3 would be looking to Fauna Shaman put down a Beast Whisperer or Green Sun's Zenith in order to assemble the win by turn 5-6. Rofellos makes a lot of mana, but you absolutely can be looking to win at 4+mana, so it will always be more optimized to have two Llanowar Elves and a Fauna Shaman at turn 2.

Heh, sorry, I spent too much time with elfball. So many games with it, for years, and Rofellos wouldn't even be top 3 commanders for mono green ramp. Honestly, Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is by far the best ramp commander, and Rofellos isn't even close. Two Llanowar Elves plus Kinnan at turn 3 is 7 mana and a way to use it.

Niko9 on Watered down cEDH list

7 months ago

Also, I notice it's in the deck, but doesn't Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy go infinite with Basalt Monolith? I'm no cEDH player, but it seems like it would.

And what do you think about Thousand-Year Elixir for the deck in general? Maybe it's not worth it, I don't know, but if you did get it down early it could speed up all the dorks quite a bit. Elixir is also great with Fauna Shaman that could help get Kinnan for the infinite combo, or to get a really good dockside or something. And maybe the classic combo of Dryad Arbor to go with Green Sun's Zenith for that sweet turn one ramp.

Again, I'm no cEDH player, so not sure.

Though I did see recently that there is an infinite treasures combo with Storm-Kiln Artist and Fury Storm which I guess can infinite copy on itself. I don't completely understand the rulings on fury storm, but I saw it on the cEDH TV youtube channel, and he went through that yep, it does work.

Davinoth on Chulane's Epic Adventure [ETB/Bounce EDH]

7 months ago

     AscendedLandfalls: Hadn't considered Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant for this deck, but it would be pretty slick with all the bounce spells!

     Wandering Archaic  Flip is a card that just goes everywhere haha, but this deck is very hard for me to change, and without having any synergies with the rest of the deck I can't justify it's inclusion.

     Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is a card I've considered a few times, but I think if I decide to add a mana doubling effect it'll be for my lands to better combo with Peregrine Drake & Great Whale.

     Shalai, Voice of Plenty actually used to be in the deck, but I eventually cut it for Asceticism.. which in the end I cut for an additional counterspell lol. Shalai is really good though, it or Asceticism may yet make it back in.

     Thanks for the comment! =)

Crow-Umbra on Musashi's Mosh Pit [Primer]

11 months ago

Thank you for the suggestions Rolska, these are all pretty solid. Also, thank you for reading through my primer lol.

I should list Eldrazi Conscription in the upgrades section. Definitely very powerful, & Ulamog's Crusher isn't the worst of the bunch. A dude in my playgroup plays a couple of the Titans in his Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy deck, but he can get them out stupidly early.

Hoarding Ogre also seems like it has a lot of potential. Admittedly, I slept on the D20 & Dungeon Venturing mechanics until I started play-testing them with Isshin. I'm very excited for Delina, Wild Mage in particular.

I replaced Audacious Thief with Nadaar, Selfless Paladin earlier today. I like the potential value upside from the Dungeon Venturing, & his Anthem.

I currently run Conspiracy Theorist in my Alesha deck. Some times it feels good, sometimes it feels clunky. I've also considered Cheering Fanatic for some 2cmc "ramp"/value.

You're the second person to recommend the Kiki-Jiki fable to me lol. I need to update the maybe list. I like the Looting upside on it for sure.

As for Keldon Twilight and Total War, I like both suggestions, but have a trickier time play testing those effects in just solo testing. I'll definitely keep them in my back pocket as I start to play some games with this deck in the next month or so. I want to give Thorough Investigation a chance, but am eyeing that as a potential swap-out slot

CrazyDanPsycho on Zaxara, the (Hopefully) Awesome

1 year ago

Yisan: Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy would be a pretty good addition to the deck, I think, I should look into getting one. I'll have to tool around with some mana upgrades. I also want a few permanent draw engines I can dump gratuitous amounts of mana into...thanks for the comment!

RNR_Gaming on My new power scale

1 year ago

TypicalTimmy - I feel most power scales are based on the perceived power and ceiling of a commander. An Urza, Lord High Artificer and Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy have a much higher ceiling than Admiral Beckett Brass. However, Beckett brass built as a turbo nauseam deck would likely come out on top most of the time vs a voltron Urza deck or a Colossal Dreadmaw tribal kinnan deck. So many factors.

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