Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy

Legendary Creature — Human Druid

Whenever you tap a nonland permanent for mana, add one mana of any type that permanent produced.

: Look at the top five cards of your library. You may put a non-Human creature card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

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legendofa on Diamond lion and enhanced mana …

10 months ago

Diamond Lion's ability is a mana ability, since it adds mana. It also has to tap to use it. Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy and Leyline of Abundance add extra mana when a nonland permanent/creature is tapped for mana. Does these cards allow the Lion to generate extra mana?

As far as I can see, this works, but I want to make sure there's not some odd corner rule about paying more costs or sacrificing or something.

Flarhoon13 on Lazav and Gyruda (Companion): Doom Mind

11 months ago

Ill-Gotten Gains to enable Animate Dead on It That Betrays enabled this deck to win its first game. March 26th memorably saw Lazav, Dimir Mastermind become a Priest of Titania, tapping for 11 and utilizing a Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy twice (borrowed thanks to our Roil Elemental) to cheat out a Vilis, Broker of Blood and a Geth, Lord of the Vault, only to enable the Duskmantle Guildmage and Mindcrank combo victory.

thefiresoflurve on Atraxa Crazy Counters

1 year ago

Hey, there!

Grateful Apparition is a slight upgrade to Thrummingbird (or could run both easily).

Semester's End could be some good board wipe evasion in a pinch, and sets you up to come back swinging.

If you're looking to run big creatures and cheat them in, you can do a bit better than Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy. Defense of the Heart is low-key broken. Some other useful cards: Elvish Piper, Quicksilver Amulet, Lurking Predators. Depending on your average creature CMC, you could just run all of them and call it a day.

Kinnan does have the advantage of being instant speed and repeatable, but it's easier and cheaper (mana wise) to setup draw alongside play-from-hand effects than it is to put mana into that activated ability. I think it's just a bit too much of a slot investment to build into Kinnan as not-commander.

You probably want a Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study in here unless your group runs truly obnoxious amounts of enchantment removal.

Boon of Safety with Atraxa is pretty useful, or Contractual Safeguard can do the same thing for all your creatures for just 2 additional mana. I'd probably prefer the latter if I had to choose, but both are good.

Happy building!

TypicalTimmy on Imoti in a Miirym deck

1 year ago

Well, Niv is copied upon ETB, not cast.

So Niv sits on the stack while you Cascade into one of the others.

I actually added Maelstrom Wanderer during my last upgrade to test the waters with it. But your idea likely is a bit more stable.

I was actually thinking of adding Kruphix, God of Horizons to hold onto the mana from Savage Ventmaw and Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient as well as just generally pooling unused mana. Even considered Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy to bypass the whole draw, cast and mana issues. Getting 7+ mana is easy. Getting something to use it on? Eh not so much.

Niko9 on What ONE card would you …

1 year ago

That's a good point that Rofellos doesn't need the same one-line 99 that Marwyn does, but yeah, neither of them are busted at all. Giving mono green access to more mana just doesn't cut it anymore. A tuned green deck by turn 3 would be looking to Fauna Shaman put down a Beast Whisperer or Green Sun's Zenith in order to assemble the win by turn 5-6. Rofellos makes a lot of mana, but you absolutely can be looking to win at 4+mana, so it will always be more optimized to have two Llanowar Elves and a Fauna Shaman at turn 2.

Heh, sorry, I spent too much time with elfball. So many games with it, for years, and Rofellos wouldn't even be top 3 commanders for mono green ramp. Honestly, Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is by far the best ramp commander, and Rofellos isn't even close. Two Llanowar Elves plus Kinnan at turn 3 is 7 mana and a way to use it.

Niko9 on Watered down cEDH list

1 year ago

Also, I notice it's in the deck, but doesn't Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy go infinite with Basalt Monolith? I'm no cEDH player, but it seems like it would.

And what do you think about Thousand-Year Elixir for the deck in general? Maybe it's not worth it, I don't know, but if you did get it down early it could speed up all the dorks quite a bit. Elixir is also great with Fauna Shaman that could help get Kinnan for the infinite combo, or to get a really good dockside or something. And maybe the classic combo of Dryad Arbor to go with Green Sun's Zenith for that sweet turn one ramp.

Again, I'm no cEDH player, so not sure.

Though I did see recently that there is an infinite treasures combo with Storm-Kiln Artist and Fury Storm which I guess can infinite copy on itself. I don't completely understand the rulings on fury storm, but I saw it on the cEDH TV youtube channel, and he went through that yep, it does work.

Davinoth on Chulane's Epic Adventure [ETB/Bounce EDH]

1 year ago

     AscendedLandfalls: Hadn't considered Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant for this deck, but it would be pretty slick with all the bounce spells!

     Wandering Archaic  Flip is a card that just goes everywhere haha, but this deck is very hard for me to change, and without having any synergies with the rest of the deck I can't justify it's inclusion.

     Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is a card I've considered a few times, but I think if I decide to add a mana doubling effect it'll be for my lands to better combo with Peregrine Drake & Great Whale.

     Shalai, Voice of Plenty actually used to be in the deck, but I eventually cut it for Asceticism.. which in the end I cut for an additional counterspell lol. Shalai is really good though, it or Asceticism may yet make it back in.

     Thanks for the comment! =)

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