Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
Legendary Creature — Human Druid
Whenever you tap a nonland permanent for mana, gain one mana of any type that permanent produced.
: Look at the top five cards of your library. You may put a non-Human creature card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
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|Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths (IKO)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy Discussion
2 days ago
MB's Suggested Additions
2 weeks ago
Bloom Tender/Incubation Druid/Ilysian Caryatid/Gyre Engineer all make infinite mana with Vigean Graftmage+Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy I would also run Cryptolith Rite since any creature can make infinite mana with Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy+Pemmin's Aura or Freed from the Real
2 weeks ago
You want a deterministic loop, which is most of the real "infinite" combos in mtg anyway. Yisan, the Wanderer Bard could definitely be a good commander, but I agree that going for at least a 2 color commander can help you have a lot more variety to work with.
Depending on what types of combos you're interested in (infinite mana, infinite tokens, mill, ETB, etc...) you have a huge array of options open to you. Now with your preferred simic colors; that combo is very conducive to working on infinite mana and draw (these are by no means limitations, just particular strengths).
For example, you could very easily assemble a Peregrine Drake + Deadeye Navigator/Karametra's Acolyte + Umbral Mantle infinite mana engine. Then you can dump that mana into something like Helix Pinnacle, Walking Ballista, Simic Ascendancy.
Now Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy would be extremely strong for this sort of strategy, but he will probably get hit with a lot of hate. So you could always build it around one of the Zegana's or Edric, Spymaster of Trest if you want to play politics while getting draw.
3 weeks ago
Man, that was a great Primer!! Upvote for the in-depth description and because I hate Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy!
enpc on SynergyBuild
1 month ago
That's fair enough on the Sisay combo. I looked at the line which I thought had worked but hadn't given a huge amount of thought to it. While I'm not a big fan of companion lists, I can understand why the list wants to use Jegantha in a compaion role here.
Radha, Heir to Keld is still a mana dork. While Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy does accelerate your other dorks, he himself doesn't do anything. But I would personally run both. you are correct about the feels bad using Sisay to fetch Radha though. Personally I like Blackblade Reforged as the first Sisay fetch - it should very quickly get her to 6.
All in all, it seems interesing enough, but it's not a deck I would try to build any time soon. If I were to build a 5C Sisay list, I would build it off my old hypothetical list whose sole purpose was to take control of another player's turn and then exile their commander to be a dick. But there are a lot of other decks bouncing around in my brain before I build that one.
SynergyBuild on enpc
1 month ago
Sadly, you need to get to 6 power for Sisay, since Sisay, Weatherlight Captain says 'costs less than' rather than 'equal to or less than.'
No worries, the use of Jegantha as a companion is it lets you get Sisay to 4 power on it's own, which allows the whole combo to occur with no extra pieces. Yes 11 mana is a ton, but 3-3-5 isn't too bad, when it's a 5 color, 0 card combo, you can work with anything in deck. Radha while not bad for the deck, will often be worse than other ramp pieces like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, or just normal ramp.
The actual legends in more competitive Sisay lists (according to lists I've seen) are Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, Anafenza, the Foremost, Gaddock Teeg, Tymna the Weaver, Thrasios, Triton Hero, Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, Teferi, Time Raveler, Oko, Thief of Crowns, Kethis, the Hidden Hand, Dack Fayden, Aminatou, the Fateshifter, The Chain Veil, Umezawa's Jitte, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician/Najeela, the Blade-Blossom (and Samut, Voice of Dissent optionally for this combo).
Optionally (on EDHREC) Helm of the Host, Hammer of Nazahn, Reki, the History of Kamigawa, Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain, Saffi Eriksdotter, Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Captain Sisay, Brago, King Eternal, Kunoros, Hound of Athreos, Ashiok, Dream Render/Narset, Parter of Veils/Teferi, Master of Time/Linvala, Keeper of Silence (non-Jegantha variations)
Sadly, while Radha seems okay? Tutoring it is really bad, since you could fetch value pieces like Wrenn and Six, or better ramp like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, and I doubt you need an extra green if you can cast Sisay and activate her, and she also already needs to have a 1 color legend out. If you are looking to use Radha for pumping Sisay, run more of the optional legends. Idk, I could be wrong but I don't see it being popular, I hope you have the best of luck with it, it seems pretty fun for the deck on terms of a flavor include!
1 month ago
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy EDH decklist Sorry for the link, but the code didn't work for this deck.
Here's my competitive deck with Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy at the helm. Generate infinite mana, then activate Kinnan until Thrasios, Triton Hero hits the battlefield, then draw your library and cast Thassa's Oracle. Also with infinite mana, you can win with an infinitely large Walking Ballista or Finale of Devastation.
Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! I look forward to everyone's feedback.
1 month ago
I do believe there is a power creep, and it does concern me a little when they make cards like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy. And I would say if they printed a card that stopped opponents from being able to play lands I’d call BS