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Renegade Map enters the battlefield tapped.
[symbol:t], Sacrifice Renegade Map: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
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Renegade Map Discussion
3 days ago
Hey, looks good. +1
I don't think Renegade Map is needed. Being a revolt enabler for Fatal Push is fine, but other than for artifact strategies it's very lackluster and ETB tapped. You can't use it as an enabler the turn it's played. A Push enabler to consider is Evolving Wilds since you want more than 22x lands. More land is good for explore. Being midrange making your fourth land drop is very important. Consider 3x Wilds.
Vraska's Contempt is much better than Never: instant speed, exiles and lifegain. Gonti, Lord of Luxury is a great sideboard swap with Ravenous Chupacabra for control matchups or other matchups where opponent has less creatures. Thrashing Brontodon is another nice sideboard card. Having this ability on a creature is very good with The Scarab God. Moment of Craving more instant cheap mana with lifegain sideboard removal for aggro matchups.
3 days ago
As GabeBurch said, you don't need any other green lands when you can fetch for it in 8 different ways, and Renegade Map is a super important piece to our puzzle here. I tried it with Blooming Marsh or Sunpetal Grove but always found this way was much easier and because our Vraska and Tendershoot are both late game cards, unless you've had zero luck getting Maps, Evolving Wilds, or other lands in general, you should have no issue getting the forest out.
You can add more green if you'd like, but it's not super necessary.
3 days ago
3 days ago
The sheer amount of token generation is absolutely terrifying. However, even with the 8 ways to search for a green mana, why only have the one source? If you went with some Blooming Marshes or Sunpetal Groves, you'd probably be able to cut the Renegade Maps completely and replace it with a better card.
5 days ago
When I'm working on a manabase, I first look at the breakdown of colors in the deck, either counting the symbols or using the pie chart in the deck builder. I try to make the rough amounts of mana produced match the breakdown. Then I look at the curve to see when certain colors are needed. If the curve wants a color early, I'll switch a few of the lands around so that that color has more lands to facilitate playing on time. After that I'll look at cards with a double color in their cost, then switch lands to try and help get that double color available quicker. Once I've taken those factors into account, I'll goldfish the deck to see how the manabase is working out. If it's not working out well enough, I'll tweak the lands or tweak the spells to work better.
As Boza said, Standard currently doesn't have much in the way of 3+ color manabases that aren't energy related. Energy is worse at fixing now that Attune with Aether is banned, but it still has Aether Hub and Servant of the Conduit to fix, so it's still viable. Anything with access to had color fixing options, and Renegade Map can be a good way to help fix for basic lands. I don't know if the cards that generate treasure tokens are good enough for a control deck, but that could be another way to make your manabase better.
5 days ago
6 days ago
A land? 38 is normally a good starting point, maybe add the bounce land? Kangaroo land I think they're called lol
There are more ETB tapped lands that produce both your colors, if you're ever getting mana screwed maybe look into them?
Altar's reap might be cut for Night's Whisper?
Not sure i get credit voucher, what's the thought behind it?
I kinda understand what you were saying earlier about not closing out the game.
Morbid Curiosity, Sly Requisitioner, Cogwork Assembler (might be some combos hidden in that card), Inventors' Fair, Lifecrafter's Bestiary, Metalspinner's Puzzleknot (might be better than icor wellspring), Pacification Array or something like it, Renegade Map, Servo Schematic, Treasure Keeper, Necrogen Spellbomb,
1 week ago
Snivy__ are you seriously saying Renegade Map is better than Attune with Aether? so what if you attune for a forest and then draw another? "oh no i have 2 forests what ever shall i do"... Renegade Map is slower, can be destroyed, and doesnt give you energy counters. it is not a suitable replacement.