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Root Maze Discussion
2 days ago
Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I wasn't familiar with Raking Canopy before, I'll try to get my hands on one.
Couple of my friends run artifact decks, so Root Maze is great. It's a tech card, so switching it for something on my maybeboard is always a possibility.
3 days ago
1 month ago
Choirboy2020 Root Maze and Ethersworn Canonist are not asymmetrical STAX effects so they stop us from comboing too. I hadn’t given much thought to Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest as I have not played many games where I wished I could fetch a non-legendary STAX piece.
I just switched to the STAX game plan so I am still tuning it and I appreciate any feedback you have.
1 month ago
Choirboy2020 Root Maze and Ethersworn Canonist are not asymmetrical STAX pieces so they stop us from combing too. I had not given much thought to Survival of the Fittest or Fauna Shaman because I haven’t played many games where I am looking for a non-legendary creature STAX piece.
I just switched to the STAX game plan so I am still tuning it and appreciate any feedback you have.
2 months ago
Alright, lets look at Loyal Retainers in another way.
You're running 7 legendary creatures outside of your commanders (which we will assume you WONT send to GY), so there are only 7 creatures that Loyal Retainers can return. Assuming a 99 card deck, 7 in starting hand, and 2 specific cards to see (retainers + legend), you've got a 7% chance to get Retainers, and a 41% chance to have one of your legends in your opener. After 5 draws, you're only at a 60% chance to hit a legend.
Now lets compare to Life . Same chance to see the card, 7%, but it works with 29 creatures instead of 7. Geometric calculator is telling me 91% chance to see a creature in your opener that works with Life . After 5 draws, 98.8% that you'll have a critter.
Obviously Retainers does have some benefit. It can be used to make an infinite etb/ltb loop for winning. How valuable is that to your deck though? Loyal Retainers can only be used BEFORE combat on your turn, and Tymna gives you cards AFTER combat. Your main source of card advantage is going to cause you to have to wait a rotation after finding all the pieces to your combo. This is a massive downside. You can already assemble infinite loops with Saffi + Titan, or Saffi + Karmic.
Lets imagine another scenario. You have the Saffi on the board with Retainers, but you have Sun Titan/Karmic Guide in the graveyard. Loyal Retainers can't grab that half of your combo back for you.
- Sacrifice Saffi Eriksdotter targeting Karmic Guide
- Sacrifice Karmic Guide . It returns to battlefield, we put ETB trigger on stack targeting Reveillark
- After Reveillark returns to battlefield, we sacrifice Karmic guide. We now have both Saffi + Guide in GY
- Reveillark is sacrificed, we will return both Saffi AND Karmic.
- We now pull creature 1 we want from GY with Karmic
- Sacrifice Saffi, targeting Karmic. Sacrifice Karmic, it returns from Saffi effect, giving us Reveillark again. Sac Karmic so its in GY, then sac Reveillark to give us Karmic + Saffi. Karmic entering gives us creature 2 from our GY. Rinse and repeat until you pull entire GY and combo finish.
You're running Kiki and splinter twin but you don't have any creature payloads to win. If you want to value reuse/copy creatures with an ETB, there are more cost efficient ways of doing it. I recommend you either cut these or put in Village Bell-Ringer or Combat Celebrant to have a Kiki payload. Overall though, I would just cut this combo.
You're running Yisan and Birthing Pod but you aren't running the cards to make them go. You need effects that untap them based off creature ETBs or actives, which are slot intensive. Yisan is dope, but if you aren't running the cards to support it you're running a slow tutor. Once again, I'd cut these if you aren't going to build around.
You are trying to fit too many combos in. Pick 1 or two that overlap in card usage and cut the others. Its better to do two things extremely well than it is to do 5 things mediocre. You should run reanimation loops + protean hulk + sac outlets, OR you should run kiki combo + pod/yisan lines. The hulk/animation loops both require sac outlets to be present on your field, while kiki/pod lines require untap effects. This will let you reuse your combo cards in multiple spots which will help reduce dead draws. Nothing feels worse than when you're holding 3 different pieces to three different combos that have very little utility outside combo lines. This is also why you're struggling to find space for more stax and ramp pieces.
You are also running a pretty high amount of beater cards. You should pare them down and run only the most efficient beater cards with high utility. Cathars' Crusade is a nice card but it does nothing on its own and buckles from Wrath effects. Compare to Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite which gives a buff but can also beat even if its your only creature. It also hurts your enemies board presence greatly. Bitterblossom is a fantastic card but you aren't getting as much value out of it because you aren't running enough pieces to slow down the game. Keep it but consider that a 1/1 flyer doesn't do much if your opponent is able to drop their giant dragon commander, you have to slow the game! Champion of Lambholt will provide you with free swings, but if you just lock the game out instead you don't need the evasion and this card doesn't beat that well. Custodi Soulcaller is a meme card, it requires either haste or an untap step (so its slow), you have to swing to use it, and its limited in what it can grab, and it gets worse the fewer players there are.
Price of Glory is a wonderful hate card, but unfortunately far less effective than you think. Compare to Grand Abolisher . Abolisher can beat down, which is your game plan. Abolisher 100% protects your combo window. Price of Glory doesn't stop the counterspell that stops your combo, it just exacts a massive price for your opponent casting it. However, when faced with the option of losing the game or losing two lands, every single opponent is going to choose the two lands. Strong card but you don't need to run it.
Zombie Infestation is a nice discard outlet, and great when you're ahead and have locked the board. Just like Bitterblossom though, you have to slow the game or this card will be outclassed by the casual stompy 6 drops that are allowed to hit the table. Stax up or cut out.
Cryptolith Rite is strong when you have a mana sink or tons of critters. Tymna will keep you stocked up on cards to dump with, while Tana gives you the critters. If you can afford it, Carpet of Flowers will outperform this card though. Keep it around if you don't have access to the Carpet.
What Goes In
So after cutting down all the shenanigans, heres what you want to add
DORKS: You get cards for hitting with creatures. Dorks are creatures that give mana and come out very fast. The maximum density of turn 1 dorks means Tymna turn 2, means free cards turn 3. This will improve the consistency of your deck more than anything else you can put in. You're currently missing Llanowar Elves Fyndhorn Elves Boreal Druid Deathrite Shaman Arbor Elf Elvish Mystic . These have the bonuses of working well with Priest of Titania and Elvish Archdruid , which will help you if you decide to run mana denial cards like Winter Orb or Armageddon (which I recommend both). Deathrite hates on GY and will ramp consistently with fetchlands which are prevalent in the format, extremely value. Arbor Elf can ramp more than 1 in tandem with Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth . These dorks will help guarantee strong starts and consistent power to your deck I can't stress this enough.
ROCKS: Adding in the signets/talismans is going to ramp you, color fix you, and work in tandem with shutting off your opponents mana. Really really recommend these especially if your playtesting leaves you unhappy with mana availability.
STAX: This deck only works when you slow the game, I also want to stress this. Yeah you have some neat combos for winning discretely, but you are primarily a beater stax deck. Your commander gives you cards PER TURN, your other commander gives you CREATURES PER SWING. You want to games to go longer so you get more turns for more cards and more free creatures. It really isn't that hard dude. Cards that slow down the game will help you far more than they help your opponent, even symmetrical ones. This is why the deck runs Blood Moon despite being a four color deck. If you let your opponents start tutoring and dropping their big creatures, they will do better in combat than you and you will have a real bad day. If you hit their mana, stop their tutors and draw, and destroy their engines, you will pull ahead from the massive value you generate in the command zone. Please look at Root Maze Winter Orb Armageddon Rule of Law Deafening Silence Eidolon of Rhetoric Stranglehold Collector Ouphe Kataki, War's Wage
If you want to run a stax deck, you have to run the slow down pieces. If you want to build a cool reanimation combo deck, I recommend switching commanders or lists, take a peek at Karador Boonweaver
This list is certainly looking a lot better with the first round of revisions! With some more cuts and shaving off some combos, you will improve its efficiency a lot!
P.S. I couldn't open the choice guidelines tab you made sorry bud.
2 months ago
I've found the best way to protect against a board wipe in my Marwyn build is to always have a bunch of cards in hand. Card draw on ETB or cast triggers like Vanquisher's Banner or Soul of the Harvest are great to load up on since you don't have to choose between building a board state and drawing cards the way Rishkar's Expertise / Collective Unconscious do. Also with the stupid amount of Mana you'll be generating with your general, you'll need to pack a ton of draw in your deck to not run out of gas.
I'd also swap out any non-elf creature you can for an elf if one exists with a similar effect since you essentially ramp every time you play an elf. So swapping out Silklash Spider for either Elvish Skysweeper or Jagged-Scar Archers might be worth considering. Also, I think swapping out some of the more situational cards like Seasons Past or Quest for Renewal in the deck for more cheap elves will give you more explosive turns and consistency.
2 months ago
Alright, the single most glaring issue here is that you're running Razaketh but you don't have a Razaketh package to win. Normally in competitive decks, Razaketh is used to instantly assemble a combo to win after coming into play, off of the neat tools Life and Lion's Eye Diamond . While its a fantastic combo, LED is some serious $$$, and Razaketh is going to enter and potato for you here. I'd cut it
Second, you're suffering from trying to run too many things. There's simply no reason to have Ghave + Raza + Hulk + saffi/titan + kiki combo. Blood Pod is primarily a stax deck, so its much better to hit your stride on controlling the table than try to race the other (faster) combo decks. It will also free up a lot of slots. You should slim it down to just kiki combo, and up stax pieces. Look at Root Maze and other cards that come down on turn 1/2 and will slow extremely fast decks. Manglehorn is 3 CMC but its stax stapled to removal so its extremely worth considering. You also need to up your hatebear count, because currently you aren't really slowing the combo decks like you need to, just disrupting their mana. Look at Leonin Arbiter Eidolon of Rhetoric Spirit of the Labyrinth Glowrider and ofc both Thalias.
Third, anything over 3 CMC you should cast a real critical eye towards. You're trying to hit the board fast and strangle other players out before they get a strong board presence. Having expensive CMC cards is a double whammy, you aren't playing them early, and if it was different card you COULD be playing that card instead. I'm really looking at Doubling Season Ghoulcaller Ghisa Chainer, Nightmare Adept
Next, cut out utility dorks you don't need. Goodbye Soul Warden Magus of the Wheel Loyal Retainers . If you want life run Serra Ascendant instead. You shouldn't be trying to refill your opponents hands while you're staxing them out with Magus (plus its costing you 5 mana you COULD be doing something else). Loyal Retainers is slow and a meme outside combos, run Life in its place if you are looking for more resurrection effects.
TL;DR pull out expensive beater shiz and add more stax! This is a stax deck!
Root Maze occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%