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Torment of Scarabs
Enchantment — Aura Curse
At the beginning of enchanted player's upkeep, that player loses 3 life unless he or she sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card. "Like a carpet unrolling for their god, the scarabs poured out from the necropolis."
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Torment of Scarabs Discussion
4 days ago
Some cards to consider:
- Bojuka Bog : A must include in any black commander deck.
- Boneknitter : Utility, simple as that.
- Corpse Harvester : Out with the old, in with the new... and a swamp!
- Cryptbreaker : So much value in such a small package. Token generating, card draw, good in the early and late game... what is not to love about this card!
- Death Baron : A zombie lord with some extra punch Sure he doesn't get deathtouch himself, but all those 2/2 tokens that are now 3/3 deathtouch.
- Dread Summons : Ever seen those zombie movies with that big hoard that just keeps coming... that's this card. Gives you a bunch of tokens, and recursion bait for your commander.
- Endless Ranks of the Dead : Card title kind of says it all for this one. Obviously not the best in metas with wrath effects coming down every turn, but shines like a copper penny otherwise.
- Ghoulcaller Gisa : So take one creature, throw it under the bus, and get more...
- Grave Titan : Why this thing isn't a zombie I will never know. 6/6 for 6, deathtouch, and brings two friends with it AND when it attacks.
- Graveborn Muse : Card draw based on zombies, who is also a zombie!
- Infernal Caretaker : Mass recursion, either play them out, or discard them back for more effects.
- Liliana, Death's Majesty : Just an all around strong zombie planeswalker.
- Liliana's Mastery : Zombies + an anthem that won't be a big target for removal.
- Lord of the Undead : A low to the ground zombie lord with recursion on a stick.
- Noxious Ghoul : Sweeps out low toughness cards for things you're already doing. Just great value.
- Relentless Dead : A great early drop, and late game it serves as a sac target + recursion.
- Shepherd of Rot : Yes it hits you, but this can be such a major threat.
- Undead Warchief : Cheaper zombies, and bigger zombies. All in one convenient package.
- Awaken the Erstwhile : Disruption, plain and simple. Sure it hurts your hand too, but you are the one with all the zombie based anthems.
- Victim of Night : Doomblade 2.0, but hits black creatures.
- Sidisi, Undead Vizier : You'll have so many tokens kicking around to exploit that she's just a straight tutor, and if she ever hits the graveyard just use her again with Scarab God.
- Fleshbag Marauder : Hurts them a lot more than you, and enter the battlefield abilities are great with Scarab around.
- Josu Vess, Lich Knight : Solid 4/5 Menace for 4, got the extra 6 mana though and he brings friends who also have menace.
- Wonder : Flying zombies... yep, that's scary.
- Pull from Tomorrow : Nice draw on an instant with the added benefit to pitch something for Scarab to target.
- Price of Fame : Legendary killer + Surveil 2... love it.
- Sinister Sabotage : Counterspell + Surveil... love it too.
- Paradox Haze : You've got a couple effects that trigger on upkeep, why not double up?
- The deck currently seems to be going in two directions, you have a large zombie theme which I love, but you also have a minor mill theme which seems out of place.
- Advanced Stitchwing : Slow for what it gives, even on the bounce back it comes back tapped.
- Apprentice Necromancer : This is one I'm on the fence suggesting, it's a one use for one turn only.
- Grimgrin, Corpse-Born : This guy is beast, but he works best in a deck build around him.
- Lamplighter of Selhoff : Slow, for his effect.
- Merciless Eternal : He's not bad, just a lot better things to include in the 3 cost bracket.
- Phenax, God of Deception : Love this guy, really do, but he's out of place here because he's a mill guy who loves big butts.
- Relentless Skaabs : This guy does everything you don't want as he hurts your graveyard in order to even hit play.
- Servant of Tymaret : Slow with high cost. In order to make the best use of him you have to be attacking, and if the way isn't clear that means a 3 mana tax just for 1 life on each opponent.
- Spiteful Returned : Don't hate it, but better things out there.
- Stitchwing Skaab : Suffers from the same as Advanced Stitchwing.
- Undead Alchemist : This guy can go either way, but the way I look at him is generally people have more cards in their decks than life, so it's easier to take out their life.
- Vindictive Lich : This guy is fun, though for his cost there is a lot more out there.
- Exotic Orchard : Risky unless you know your playgroup always has one of your colors, otherwise it's just a colorless and a swamp or island would be just as good.
- Leechridden Swamp : Slows you down for a minor effect.
- Path of Ancestry : Phenax is the only other god creature, so even if you keep him in it's very slow for the benefit it probably will never get the chance to give.
- Coat of Arms : I love this card, I really do, but it's a calculated risk and I find zombies are usually too slow of it. Run up against a goblin or elf deck and this will do more for your opponent.
- Mindcrank : This is another I'm on the fence with as it pairs really well with Scarab.
- Vanquisher's Banner : Good card, though you're not casting all those tokens so you're only getting a bit of a benefit from it.
- Liliana Vess : Good card, out of place in this deck unless you are going heavier into the mill.
- Ob Nixilis Reignited : Just completely out of place for zombie tribal.
- Glimpse the Unthinkable : One of those mill cards, it suffers as a one of.
- Rise from the Grave : Expensive for effect.
- Ruthless Disposal : This isn't bad in this deck, but compared to Morbid Slip for example it lacks that added shine.
- Curse of Disturbance : So much politics, this is VERY meta dependent as to if players fall for the bait.
- Quest for the Gravelord : This can work out, but more often then not stuff isn't dying fast enough or it just gets pinged with early removal.
- Search for Azcanta Flip: More at home in a non-creature strategy.
- Torment of Scarabs : Most people can play around this with not too much fuss, and it gives all the choice to them. I'd prefer some targeted removal.
3 months ago
While I definitely see the enchantment synergy, having curses like Torment of Scarabs that deny your opponents resources and cards like Master of the Feast that give your opponents resources seems non-synergistic. I'd try to focus either on the curse plan or the Fate Unraveler plan to maximize your interactions.
White is a really useful color for a curse deck and is likely to be more effective than blue without more mill cards. It gives you access to the incredibly strong Overwhelming Splendor and occasionally useful Curse of Exhaustion. You can also play Hero of Iroas, Kor Spiritdancer, Sram, Senior Edificer, or Mesa Enchantress instead of Cloud Key. Bitterheart Witch is one way to get a Curse of Misfortunes into play to start the engine, although Heliod's Pilgrim is another possibility.
For a "draw to death" strategy, Unraveler can be supplemented by Underworld Dreams. If you go red, you could use Fevered Visions and Kederekt Parasite instead. This strategy benefits from symmetrical draw effects like Dictate of Kruphix and Howling Mine, or forced draw as you have with Master of the Feast. Having plenty of removal and/or hand disruption is important since your opponents will have more gas to work with. If the chip damage isn't getting the job done, Notion Thief is another great way to break the symmetry.
4 months ago
Flip Mesa Enchantress Sphere of Safety Open the Vaults Torment of Scarabs Curse of Exhaustion Curse of the Nightly Hunt Curse of the Pierced Heart Curse of Oblivion
Curse of Vengeance Curse of Shallow Graves Open the Armory Chromatic Lantern Arid Mesa Isolated Chapel Norn's Annex
5 months ago
My win con was Torment of Scarabs but I need to find a more effective win con. I will definitely try out the land suggestion. I've been thinking about Snapcaster Mage but just haven't tried him out yet. Thanks for you suggestions. They have helped a lot.
5 months ago
I would cut Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and 2 Island for 4 Creeping Tar Pit. Ditch Doom Blade for 2 more Fatal Push. Cut Negate and Torment of Scarabs for 4 Snapcaster Mage. Also, Darkslick Shores would smooth out your mana.
5 months ago
I like the deck a lot! I used to play a similar deck, but post rotation I find it hard to replace cards like Torment of Hailfire and Torment of Scarabs, which were my previous win conditions. I'm not too sure how this deck will "seal the deal"/win? Maybe get something huge like Doom Whisperer into the deck? Or use the earlier Cabal Stronghold with Dread Shade? I like Twilight Prophet but I'm not sure how she's helping the strategy? Or maybe she's the slow-draining win condition? She is to be preferred over Sword-Point Diplomacy, right? Is cards like Raiders' Wake and Heartless Pillage worthy of a slot? I look a lot forward to see this deck evolve and use it myself!
6 months ago
I recommend changing your mana base to a playset of each of Urza's Mine, Urza's Power Plant, and Urza's Tower, and 2 different playsets of dual lands of your choice and 2 Inventors' Fair for a total of 22 lands. instead of playing Hanweir Battlements, play 2-4 Lightning Greaves, it has a starting cost of 2, but allows you to make one creature you summon every turn have haste for free afterwards, along with giving it shroud. if you dont mind paying 2 every turn you can also use Fleetfeather Sandals instead for the same effect but with flying that can assist your offense. instead of haveing a masssive ammount of cards that discard yourself, use a playset and a half ofTorment of Scarabs and Demonic Pact. haveing 6 of these cards will nearly guarantee you pulling one of them by turn 4 and your forcing your opponet to discard instead of yourself. this means that you wont be able to defend with Lupine Prototype, the issue is minute however as id imagine he'd be tapped from being on the offenseive with flying, but is easily resolved with a playset of Amaranthine Wall. although expensive, you may want to use 3 of All Is Dust as its a one sided board wipe for you. if you want to add ramp you can use a playset of Powerstone Shard. if you want some combos, you can use Prototype Portal or Sculpting Steel to make copies of important artifacts, such as Lupine Prototype. perhaps you may want to add Diabolic Tutor to help you find specific cards. i feel that all of your spells and activated abilities that use red mana are not very productive compared to everything else
Torment of Scarabs occurrence in decks from the last year
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