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- Target player gains 7 life.
- Put target noncreature permanent on top of its owner's library.
- Target player shuffles his or her graveyard into his or her library.
- Search your library for a creature card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
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Primal Command Discussion
1 week ago
ImtheRealBear yeah, Torpor Orb pretty much shuts down all my artifact hate (rip Rec Sage), so I guess a little bit of something to deal with it would be good. I wanted to keep this deck budget, but I was hesitant about Beast Within at first because this deck wins by attacking, but in retrospect I'll usually roll over the 3/3 with my 4/4s 5/4s.
Primal Command is a lot of mana, considering that I'll usually be bouncing and playing at least 1 creature every turn. Hopefully. Maybe I'll see about squeezing it into the sideboard.
1 week ago
I don't know if you have a sideboard but if you do I would for sure say throw in some creature/artifact hate to deal with Torpor Orb or Tocatli Honor Guard. Beast Within could deal with both of them, Krosan Grip and Prey Upon could deal with them separately. It's a cool deck! have you considered Primal Command?
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
You're missing the alternative win condition of the Staff of Domination. This is an easy find with Genesis Wave and Wall of Omens boosting along the card draw, and only requires 5 walls (including one of the eight dorks) to go infinite. It would be a nuisance to have Assault Formation extracted, but hardly scoop-worthy. There are four Eternal Witness in the sideboard to fulfil the Reclaim function, and also provide a soft control lock with Primal Command. Thanks for your suggestions!
2 weeks ago
It's a lot of mana for the effect, but Primal Command is a great tutor, and comes with added utility as well. The Deadeye Navigator + Palinchron combo might be worth adding in as well, especially if you also have Future Sight and Sensei's Divining Top.
3 weeks ago
Thanks much for the additional thoughts on Batterskull. I think that if I add a Chandra, Flamecaller it's going to be as a one-of, but I always "oversubscribe" during testing. So on MTGO right now, I'm running +2x Big Chandra, -1x Primal Command, -1x Inferno Titan.
3 weeks ago
Yeah, I should of mentioned that you needed more land, probably 39 or 40, especially since your avg. cmc is pretty high. The land ratio rule of 40% from other formats still applies in commander (although I usually run 39 lands, because I think Sol Ring is an appropriate replacement for a land).
Ok I'll try to be more strict on card cuts since you need to get rid of a few cards for lands. First off you accidently have 2 Centaur Vinecrashers in the decklist.
AEthersnipe is potentially reusable in you deck, however I think it weak compared to other potentially reusable creature effects in your deck.
Krosan Tusker he is ok as a recurable cycling advantage engine, but I think Life from the Loam is much better, and I don't believe that you need a redundant version of a Life from the Loam effect, especially when Life from the Loam also as the advantage of dredging.
Timbermare I don't think your deck can take advantage of having all creatures be tapped (like summoning an army of haste creatures after casting Timbermare), so I think all it does is let you swing in for 5 damage to one player, which just isn't enough damage in a format where players start at 40 life.
Primal Command I've always been underwhelmed by this card, 7 life really doesn't matter much in a 40 life format, putting a noncreature permanent on top of a library is slightly annoying for that player, but not that big of deal or I guess you could also shuffle their graveyard into their deck too, but now you took up both modes and can't use the only really good mode of searching your library for a creature. This card seems like it has great versatility, however in practice, it only has two modes, shuffle a noncreature permanent and graveyard into target player's library (something that Unravel the Aether basically does for only 2 mana at instant speed) or gain 7 life and search for a creature and put it in your hand, your playing , so you could use a traditional tutor spell instead (like Diabolic Tutor since Demonic Tutor is far too powerful and expensive). This is a self mill deck, recursion is your form of tutors. The graveyard is your 2nd hand, you don't need to look through your deck for creatures, your creatures are in the graveyard.
Villainous Wealth doesn't really have any synergy w/ your deck, it's more of a Sultai control deck finisher to exile an opponent's entire library using infinite mana. The card is fun, but it is far too mana intensive, and could potential whiff and not hit any cards.
1 month ago
It's not amazing, but I would regard as a pretty strict improvement to your deck at the moment, over your Nissa Revane and Nissa's Chosen, Immaculate Magistrate, Rhonas's Monument, 3-5 forests, and Primal Command, in that order from bad to less bad. Jagged-Scar Archers is also dubious. All of those are pretty clear stinkers that you could cut for a lot of things that would improve the deck, including Sylvan Messenger. You have 17-22 pretty easy cuts to make, which puts you in a position such to be creative.
For 4 mana, Sylvan Messenger doesn't have too dramatic an immediate impact, and can whiff pretty hard. Sometimes you'll spend 4 mana for a 2/2 elf, with no added benefit apart from getting 4 nonelfs off the top of your library. That hurts, and will happen ~6% of the time; when that happens, you probably lose the game. The typical outcome of getting 2 elves is not too bad, though, making it roughly playable.