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Primal Command Discussion
1 day ago
@KeelHaul10: Yawgmoth's Will has won me matches with only 6 to 8 mana. Why? In my meta, it is very common for me to get enchanment and artifact hate. Plus there was a time I used i to recast Primal Command to ensure a key card was removed from my opponents field and another time where it recast my Buried Alive and Entomb for a high value Living Death. I have yet to use it for creature recursion.
1 day ago
2 weeks ago
Okay, we'll have to agree to disagree on Primal Command. I also assume that the command is better in a more DSJ-filled meta.Chandra, Flamecaller is the card advantage you are looking for. Planeswalkers are known to just be card advantage, and she pitches the useless land topdecks to get you more cards. Also, sticking her against control decks is game nine out of ten times.
In terms of not getting LD, it is of course possible not to draw any. However, in the matchups where it really matters, like Skred Red, Valakut, Eldrazi-Tron, and Tron itself, my list has 16 land-disruption spells, which is almost a guarantee that I'll get some either in the opener or in the first few turns. And if I don't get any in the opener in the matchup, I can just mulligan and get one. This deck really schools you in aggressively mulliganing in general.
2 weeks ago
I explained above why I like Primal Command. And frankly, BERNASTORRES (1x in the main), Blockhouse (2x), Gordon Clinard (2x), Ryan Shaner (1x), and Sukumar Natarajan (2x) all agree with me.
I agree that Obstinate Baloth is the weakest Creature; those are the slots I normally use to test other cards.
Thanks though, for your thoughts on the match-ups. Your strategy is of course sound, though it's less effective if you don't draw as much Land Destruction as you'd like. You might imagine that's why I commented "it would be great to have just a little more card advantage" in my tournament write-up ...
2 weeks ago
Thanks (again) for your thoughts on Primal Command. I explained above why I like it, and frankly BERNASTORRES (1x in the main), Blockhouse (2x), Gordon Clinard (2x), Ryan Shaner (1x), and Sukumar Natarajan (2x) all agree with me.
I agree that Obstinate Baloth is the weakest Creature, and I'm using those slots to test other cards.
Thanks for the advice on the match-ups. Your strategy is of course sound, though it's ineffective if you don't draw as much LD as you'd like. You might imagine that's why I commented "it would be great to have just a little more card advantage" in my tournament write-up ...
2 weeks ago
I find this tournament report very indicative with how your list is. You seemed to have some trouble in what are some amazing matchups. Now, I will preface this with saying that I acknowledge that this was your first tournament with the deck. However:
I stand by my decision to remove Primal Command altogether. It is a very medium card compared to Beast Within. It is of narrow use for three of its modes, and it just acts like a 5-drop creature with the fetch mode spread over two turns. Meanwhile, Beast Within hits everything and anything you want, and all of your threats kill the beast token.
I think there are better threats to run than Obstinate Baloth. While I don't know your exact meta, if it isn't filled to the brim with DSJ and gag 8-Rack, I think that Chandra, Torch of Defiance and Chandra, Flamecaller would be just straight better. Moving the baloths to the side instead of the Beast Within that's going to the main and maybe the Magus of the Moon.
That brings me to the sideboard, anyways. Why are you running Magus of the Moon? It is just a really bad Blood Moon. I think that that card should only be run in a creatures toolbox deck, not in Ponza, since people have an easier time killing a little 2/2 with only red mana than an enchantment.
In terms of the matchups you described, I have some advice. First of all, Trondrazi should be a 2-0 for you 9/10 times. Just get a Blood Moon in your opener or a Stone Rain. Just setting them back with constant LD is actually better than Blood Moon in some situations. In addition, as long as they don't have 7+ mana, sticking an Inferno Titan is just GG most times, since none of their creatures can kill it besides a Basilisk Collar + Walking Ballista . As long as you play smart and cover your butt with LD, you should win every time.
For Skred Red, this is actually somehow better than Trondrazi. It is for simply one reason: both decks rely on a Blood Moon lock. Yours wins, though, by destroying their lands so that they can never play spells. They forgo this to have a higher threat density. The problem for them is that they can't cast said threats through three Stone Rains backed up with a Chandra, Flamecaller. I don't even really sideboard for them since it is so easy of a matchup.
Finally, Valakut. Just LD the crap outta them. Even if you aren't hitting Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, just keeping them off of 6 mana is good game. Both decks ramp; one combos when it gets there, the other plays huge Timmy creatures. If they don't have 6 mana, then they can't cast Primeval Titan, and then they can't win the value game either. I've had Valakut opponents scoop to a single Mwonvuli Acid-Moss, since he knew it meant turn 4 six-drop that he can't answer. Play the LD aggressively and you will come out ahead.
2 weeks ago
You should cut all equipment/Auras as they are either win more (equipped on fatties) or not good enough (equipped on Birds/Hierarchs)
Aggresive cards dont fit the Gameplan because you need payoffs for Mana Dorks (like CoCo, Chord and township in abzan Company)
Also Tarmo is bad without Discard/Removal, Fetches and only 4 Card types (you will probably only have 1 card type)
2 weeks ago
You could always do a 1-1 split with 1-2 Primal Commands to tutor up the one you need in the current situation. That's the joy of toolbox threats :) (Although I personally lean more towards Stormbreath in modern in general).