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• Target creature gets +1/+1 and gains first strike until end of turn.
• Target Pirate gets +1/+1 and gains double strike until end of turn.
Buccaneer's Bravado Discussion
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Since you're a new player in Commander my advice is keep it simple. Build this deck around what your Commander does. Admiral Beckett Brass means Pirates and she doesn't do anything unless you have Pirates. Not Zombies, not Vampires or any other tribe, just Pirates.
The steal your opponents nonland permanents/creatures is a fine strategy, but don't go overboard with single cards that only give you a single steal effect on a single creature such as Act of Treason . Brass's combat damage to a player from three Pirates ability and Captivating Crew are repeatable ways to steal your opponents creatures/nonland permanents and that's better, really all you need for this effect.
There's only 27 lands here which is not enough land; you risk getting land screwed (not drawing or have lands on the battlefield). When this happens you're not able to play cards in your hand because you don't have lands on the battlefield. Getting land screwed is not fun and since you're a new player it's even worse as it can possibly make you not want to play again.
Getting land flooded (drawing too many lands/having too much land) is also not fun, but it's better to have lands to cast spells then to not have any lands at all. If land flooded you can at least cast Brass since she's in the Command Zone. All Commander deck builders have to clear deck space for enough lands.
My advice for the manabase is if you don't want to add other lands that you don't have then add more basic lands. Play a total of 38 lands with 15-20 basic lands, split up between Islands, Swamps and Mountains. Play more Islands than the rest, next is Swamps and last is Mountains. There's more blue and black Pirates/cards than red here. If you're willing to add lands you don't already have then I can help you on a budget to upgrade the manabase starting with Command Tower .
11 cards to consider cutting to add more lands:
- Act of Treason
- Mark of Mutiny
- Selective Snare
- Contract Killing
- Storm Strike
- Bolt Bend
- Price of Fame
- Grim Captain's Call
- Train of Thought
Other cards to consider cutting to make 100 cards:
- Burn from Within
- Voyage's End
- Welding Sparks
- Pirate's Pillage
- Pirate's Prize
- Think Twice
- Mana Geode
- Eel Umbra
- Curator's Ward
- Curse of Opulence
- Metamorphic Alteration
- Octopus Umbra
- See Red
- Bloodmist Infiltrator
- Deep-Sea Kraken
- Phylactery Lich
- Kiku, Night's Flower
- Body Double
- Buccaneer's Bravado
- Blinding Flare
- Sinister Sabotage
- Costly Plunder
- Doom Blade
- Polymorphist's Jest
- Teferi's Time Twist
- Darksteel Ingot
- Stealth Mission
- Stolen Goods
- Treasure Hunt
- Brass's Bounty
- Deliver Unto Evil
- Light Up the Stage
- Sleight of Hand
- Collective Restraint
- Conqueror's Galleon Flip
- Spell Swindle
- Icy Blast
- Fated Infatuation
- Deadeye Navigator
- Lighthouse Chronologist
- Dreadhorde Invasion
- Ral, Storm Conduit
- Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
As far as cuts to consider, cut single cards that give a single effect such as stealing an opponent's creature for one turn. Only getting to cast a card once and only target one creature to steal for one turn is not good enough. Single card combat trick spells that can only target one creature are lackluster and can be cut. Auras that only help one creature and don't give evasion can also be cut. Ghostly Wings and Aqueous Form are fine since they can give Brass evasion making it easier for her to do combat damage to a player.
Simplify your deck's strategy, go with Pirates and cut the majority of the nonPirate creatures. Creatures such as Wonder , Nightveil Specter and Sower of Temptation are worth keeping especially Wonder. Specter and Sower are good cards to go with the theme of stealing your opponents cards. Clones are fine, but not high mana cost ones that can only copy a creature; honestly cut them.
Some redundancy (multiple cards that do the same effect or close to it) in Commander is good. But, if you're needing cuts then redundancy is a place to make cuts. Draw spells for instance are good redundancy such as Brainstorm , Night's Whisper , Read the Bones . These are all low mana cost/mana efficient draw spells. Opt and Sleight of Hand are also fine, but if you need cuts they can be cut. Draw spells such as Pirate's Pillage , Pirate's Prize , Train of Thought , Think Twice are not good, cut them. Low mana cost (0-2 CMC) mana rocks are more good redundancy: Sol Ring and Signets/Talismans. Chromatic Lantern and Commander's Sphere are much better than the other three drop mana rocks here; Mana Geode and Darksteel Ingot can be cut.
For your deck combat trick spells, counterspells and targeted creature removal is in my opinion bad redundancy. I'm not saying to not have these kinds of effects, but limit the amount of them you play. Counterspell for instance is a staple card of Commander play it, but Cancel , Sinister Sabotage and Rethink are worse then Counterspell, cut them. Sabotage is better than Cancel, etc.
Blasphemous Act and Fiery Cannonade is good redundancy. Murder is better than Doomblade, cut Doomblade. Sorcery or high mana cost instant creature removal can be cut such as Contract Killing and Price of Fame . Bitterblossom and Dreadhorde Invasion is good redundancy, but Bitterblossom is a much better card than Invasion. Invasion is a good card, but if you need to cut a card then cut it because you have Bitterblossom, otherwise keep it.
Spells that give all your creatures evasion of some type are fine, but don't go overboard with including lots of them because these cards do nothing without you controlling a creature; making them dead draws/dead cards in your hand too often. These kind of effects that can give all your creatures evasion are better if they can be repeatable or are a static ability such as Wonder or from an enchantment, not an aura. You want to play cards that can give your creatures lasting evasion more than a single card for a single effect on one turn.
I offer more advice if you would like. Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
I would put Buccaneer's Bravado and Captain Lannery Storm back in. The combo of the two with sacking two treasure = 10dmg from just her is massive. Bravado is just a good card period for pirate tribal. R/B Aggro Pirates v1 is my version of this and it very rarely gets beaten.
4 months ago
Fell Flagship 's quite a good situational card for my matches so far. Aside from its +1/+0 buff, I usually crew it for its discard effect and I usually do it so that creature spells I cast during my turn can technically attack. I don't rely on its discard effect much though since my goal is to get creatures out as fast as possible, but in matches against control/tempo type decks, it quite helps.
Yes, March of the Drowned is kinda slow for my deck, and it's only been useful for me in certain long game situations. I figured that since I can win games in 4 or 5 turns (based on my playtesting so far and with an ideal hand), I just need it to be more consistent by basically just adding more cheap creatures to my board as early as possible.
Run Amok was a card suggested (and given to me) by my friend as a replacement for Buccaneer's Bravado , and I find it to be a better combat trick in almost all situations since it gives +3/+3 AND trample while the latter only gives first/double strike with +1/+1. In my recent playtests I realized that trample fits my game more especially in dealing with chump-blockers, given that getting damage through as quickly as possible is the deck's goal.
5 months ago
So back when pirates of ixalan were released no one really played them because of the mana base, at least not in Grixis. Right now the mana base is solid enough to technically make them work.
What I am trying to do right now is creating a deck where all cards fit into the pirate theme while still staying somewhat competitive. It doesn't have to win all the time but having a chance against burn and Teferi would be nice.
It... hasn't really worked out so far. Is such a deck even possible?
With cards like Siren's Ruse , Lookout's Dispersal and of course Siren Stormtamer you have decent disruption, I have even been experimenting with adding more discard like Duress or Heartless Pillage . The latter is pretty great as far as discard spells go since it is effectively CMC 2. Cancel , Hornswoggle , Admiral's Order and Spell Swindle are pirate themed but not worth including in my opinion.
As for Lifegain your choices in a pirate theme deck are basically limited to Fountain of Renewal and Navigator's Compass . Compass is actually not that bad since it let's you fix your mana base without handing aggro decks a free 2 damage. (I am making an exception to the theme rule for Shocklands)
Admiral Becket Brass is a great flavor card but usually when you can hit your opponent with 3 pirates they are either dead or would be if you had dropped a Dire Fleet Neckbreaker instead of the Admiral.
The real problem with pirates seems to be that they want to go fast since their late game sucks but they have basically no advantage over mono red or blue other than tribal synergies. And their tribal synergies aren't that great, most of them are not even available until turn 4 or 5.
For Removal there are some options: Walk the Plank is great flavor although a bit hard to cast. Hostage Taker and the Admiral are decent for dealing with Teferi but not that amazing. Lightning Strike , Makeshift Munitions (bombarding your opponent with treasures is hilarious) and Fiery Cannonade are your go-to burn spells.
Card Draw can be provided by Curious Obsession (a bit tricky when you are also running Siren's Ruse), Chart a Course and maybe Treasure Map Flip and Dead Man's Chest . March of the Drowned could also be very valuable since it only costs 1 mana.
Like I said the best creatures seem to be the pirates that either have very good tribal synergy or flying. I am considering Fathom Fleet Captain and Forerunner of the Coalition but they both seem to be too slow. When you have a lot of treasures getting the city's blessing for an early extra turn via Timestream Navigator isn't too hard but I haven't really profited from it that much.
Revel in Riches is an interesting wincon but just too slow. Maybe an option for a more control-based approach. But when you have lots of treasures out it seems to be more viable to cast Mnemonic Betrayal , which technically isn't a pirate spell but looks like one. Or use overpriced Cards like Pirate's Prize that create more treasures.
With all that knowledge I still can't figure out a decent pirate deck, am I missing something? I am aware that you got to concentrate on some mechanics to make them work but I am not sure on which ones.
I really want to make pirates work before they rotate out and possibly never return to Standard.
6 months ago
I'm pretty sure between my friend and I, I can get at least 2 of both Sulfur Falls and Submerged Boneyard Since him and his girl aren't playing any b/u or r/u rn... But that's not necessarily to dismiss the suggestion of dropping blue. And Mana has screwed me playing tonight a little. Mostly black because I realized I have a lot heavier black presence than I thought...
Also, though: I've found my most consistent win conditions seem to revolve around Storm Fleet Sprinter. 2 dam unblockable - not that special. Hopefully, I'm able to buff that up a couple times. Fell Flagship helps, and so does Pirate's Cutlass. That's 5 unblockable. But what's even more awesome is having Dire Fleet Neckbreaker as well for 2 more - but that's already all 3 colors between Storm Fleet Sprinter+Dire Fleet Neckbreaker. And the 2 extra from neckbreaker is pretty negligible unless you hit him with Buccaneer's Bravado for double strike. That's been about the nastiest I've seen this build play is when I'm able yo utilize the unblockables and also doubling that dam up. That's a 14 unblockable swing I just added up. Even just reading that is kind of astonishing right? Lol
With that said - I'm sure there's a lot changing I have to do with my archetypal theory at the moment. My SO beat me 6 of 7 hands earlier with this one Truly Competetive Saps :(. I'll have to think about what I'd be losing to drop the blue. I'm not that worried about getting cards though. Between all of us cardpooling, we really have almost any card we'd use in standard already. Even rare and mythics just because you do 'aquire' them over time. Like I know I could pull together a full set of Fell Flagship because he showed them to me the other day, I forgot them. I'm sure we have 2 copies of pretty much anything within reason...
6 months ago
First off, I want to thank you for checking out the deck, and also for your very kind words and suggestions. I’m glad that you were able to get something out of my card explanations — it’s always my hope that my reasonings for card choices are clear in my descriptions.
Secondly, don’t worry! None of your questions and or suggestions were even remotely stupid — and indeed, you’ve raised some very valid possibilities that give me food for thought. I’ll go through your ideas below and reflect on them, and also tell you what my initial ideas for these cards were (if I had any before now).
Deadeye Tracker: Pirates are a surprisingly versatile tribe, and this is its best piece of anti-graveyard tech. Against the Golgari and Arclight Phoenix lists, you are absolutely right that it would do work. My reasons for not including it are: 1) It’s quite small and fragile, thus not really on-theme with our aggressive plan, and requires a pretty hefty mana investment to get it to a useful size for combat; 2) Since we are using a 21-land mana base, explore is far less likely to hit a land and draw it for us — not to say that makes it useless, since we can still pitch away whatever’s on top of our deck, but it also weakens some of our topdecks like Dire Fleet Poisoner, since we really don’t want our opponent to know if we have that card in hand or not; 3) We already have reasonable anti-graveyard maindeck pieces in Dire Fleet Daredevil and Lava Coil, although admittedly Deadeye Tracker is better than both of those in that particular role; and finally 4) though it’s strong against the Golgari and Arclight Phoenix decks, we’ve got strong tech in the form of Fiery Cannonade already — it kills almost all of Golgari’s creatures apart from Doom Whisperer and the Findbroker, and it kills the Phoenixes at instant speed after they come back, effectively fizzling the opponent’s spell string (but admittedly not permanently getting rid of the Phoenixes).
Forerunner of the Coalition: I really like this card. Tutoring is almost always strong, and adding unblockable damage with its triggered ability gives the deck new reach. However, it has the drawback, which you correctly recognized, of telegraphing our next play — something we’d like to avoid if possible. Additionally, its subpar size for its mana cost is problematic, coupled with the fact that it has no evasion or keywords of its own. That said, it’s far from being a bad card, and I’d probably be playing the full playset if Ruin Raider wasn’t such a strong 3-drop. Its triggered abilities are very good.
Pirate's Cutlass: There is definitely a Pirate deck out there waiting to be built that will run these. It will probably utilize fast, hard-to-block creatures like the blue Pirates, and also run Buccaneer's Bravado as a finisher. At three mana, though, it’s fighting for a spot against some of our best cards, and while it is a really cool card, it’s not high-impact enough for our strategy to use. We’d usually rather spend the three mana to cast Ruin Raider and start drawing extra cards, etc.
Garna, the Bloodflame: Honestly, I forgot all about this card. Sure it isn’t a Pirate...but it is supremely good anti-board sweep tech. At five mana, she’s steep and a bit fragile for her cost. Currently we are using the more-easily cast March of the Drowned as our board wipe recovery card. Garna is definitely very interesting though, and worth a look. Although I’ll note that when I’m playing 21 lands, 5-drops can be pretty tough to cast.
Thanks again for the comment and I hope this helped you. Feel free to get back with me if you have more thoughts!
6 months ago
Hi Ninjew42, thanks!! I like your deck and suggestions a lot.
The haste on Captain Lannery Storm and Fanatical Firebrand is sweet, but I hate they don't have evasion or even pseudo-evasion. It makes turns where I can't attack with them because I don't have a trick, or enough mana open for a trick. I'll test with them and see how they go!
Walk the Plank is an awesome card, except that I play this on MTG:A and run into stupid, stupid, merfolk. The double black mana cost is also really rough, at least until Ravnica Allegiance comes out and Blood Crypt becomes available. I like being able to keep starting hands with double Unclaimed Territory and I fear I'll never be able to play this when I need to.
Lightning Strike is indeed a great candidate and potential way to finish out a game. I've played with it before to great success, but at the moment I favor Lava Coil because it can remove most troublesome blockers, like drakes or phoenixes. Vraska's Contempt is my favorite removal in the format, but it's too slow and expensive for this deck. I love exiling planeswalkers but I think this deck does better by doing damage with its pirates.
10 months ago
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