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Creature — Minotaur Warrior Ally
Rally — Whenever Ondu Champion or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control, creatures you control gain trample until end of turn.
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Ondu Champion Discussion
10 months ago
Have you considered Emberhorn Minotaur over Ondu Champion? This would free some slots by totally cutting away Ally synergy and let you try something new with more discard/cycle effects and synergies and maybe some Madness.
11 months ago
OH THANK FUCK!!
FINALLY a Minotaur that doesn't die to a pissy little board wipe.
It will take the place of Ondu Champion in my deck, which then frees up extra spells.
I wouldn't worry too much about that Enchantment. Just get rid of it and continue as normal.
YASS!! Proper Yard hate!!
Although that will muck up my Control deck.
Enjoying this last couple of spoilers.
11 months ago
Well sure. You can have any magical christmas-land play with just about any deck.
Turn 1: Foreboding Ruins
Turn 2: Hanweir Battlements + Bloodrage Brawler, pitch Cut / Ribbons
Turn 3: Mountain + Neheb, the Worthy
Hit for 5 damage
Turn 4: Swamp + Bloodrage Brawler, pitch Ondu Champion, use Hanweir Battlements + to give Bloodrage Brawler Haste
1 card left in hand so all Minotaurs get +2/0
Hit for 18 damage
How often has that happened? Not once.
1 year ago
You'd maybe want some card draw, because you will be churning through them.
Between that and Supernatural Stamina you can save a couple of Minotaurs after you boardwipe.
1 year ago
I appreciate the input!
I haven't had a chance to try out this version of the deck yet, but I'm very open to making changes to the Sideboard at the moment. I just need a chance to sit down and see which of those cards I feel will help me out the most. I like the cards you both recommended.
I'll swap out a Bloodrage Brawler for an Ondu Champion as well if I feel like Bloodrage keeps getting me in bad spots. But I want to test out this version of the Mainboard first. Just haven't had the time this week unfortunately.
1 year ago
I have thoughts about what was just posted.
My thoughts are based on playing with an actual Minotaur deck which, from the way the post above was worded, I don't think the poster above has.
In this deck you want to keep everything as Tribal as possible, to make the best use of Neheb, the Worthy when it lands.
You already have Bloodlust Inciter. Adding another Non-Minotaur Creature to the mix will weaken the deck overall.
I do agree with cutting Bloodrage Brawler back to 3 copies, for the reason that 2-for-1-ing yourself in the early game can be a problem.
From experience, however, pitching lands early on is not that problematic, and often not what you need to do anyway.
In no way is Ondu Champion "win more".
I dropped down to 3 copies and then soon moved back to 4.
It's simply the best way to squeeze through the last bit of lethal damage, particularly against decks that can go wide or recur, and can therefore chump block all day.
I think I remember you saying that you have experienced this.
I do agree with adding some in the Sideboard.
A 5CMC card seems to be too high a cost but this deck can easily hold out for a win on Turn 8, and a lot of stuff you will want to Exile doesn't activate until Turn 4 or later eg. Wandering Fumarole, Torrential Gearhulk, Hazoret the Fervent, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, cheated out with Aetherworks Marvel.
Not to say that Transgress the Mind is a bad way to go.
I would use it if your local meta is God-heavy, and go with Lay Bare the Heart instead, if Control decks have taken over.
A few of us have tried a lot of different hand disruption cards and Dispossess didn't always end up working that well.
That's why By Force is there.
1 year ago
Hanweir Garrison would be very powerful in a deck that uses Throne of the God-Pharaoh and red aggro strategies in general, even more so when you have multiple sources of haste. Another plus would be that you could Meld it with the battlements. The problem is that your 3CMC slot is already overcrowded. Perhaps cutting a few of the 3CMC just enough to make a little room? like -1 Neheb and -1 Ahn-crop or something. I see that you're already considering it. Want to add my +1 for it.
I also don't like the required discard from Bloodrage Brawler in general because you're 2-1 yourself and you generally don't want to discard lands since you need to make your land drops, but he's a minotaur with big stats for 2CMC which you need.
I think you could go down to 2 Ondu Champions because it's a win-more card and it requires that you already be in a winning position before it can be useful. + you don't want it early.
I think your sideboard could use a little more color variety :p It's basically pure red haha. Some cards you could run from black to help you vs certain matchups would be hand hate like Transgress the Mind, Lost Legacy, Dispossess.. I feel you need a better response to Marvel decks for example than By Force and that's just because you don't want them to ever cast it if at all possible. Not to mention that there are enchantments, creatures that could be a serious hindrance. Not that By Force is bad. It's just a reactive card vs proactive like Dispossess or Lost Legacy for example.
1 year ago
I like this deck, but I think you'd be better of cutting down on the bad minotaurs(Cursed Minotaur and Ondu Champion)) to run some cards that are overall better. The Supernatural Stamina I am also very iffy on. I'd try running a madness package maindeck to help Neheb out, Collective Brutality, Lightning Axe and Fiery Temper. I'd then consider getting a one drop like Dread Wanderer who synergizes well with the discard strategies present in the deck, and while not a minotaur, gives you a sweet one drop to help out your early gameplan.