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You may have Body Double enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature card in a graveyard.
Body Double Discussion
6 days ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Since you're a new player in Commander my advice is keep it simple. Build this deck around what your Commander does. Admiral Beckett Brass means Pirates and she doesn't do anything unless you have Pirates. Not Zombies, not Vampires or any other tribe, just Pirates.
The steal your opponents nonland permanents/creatures is a fine strategy, but don't go overboard with single cards that only give you a single steal effect on a single creature such as Act of Treason . Brass's combat damage to a player from three Pirates ability and Captivating Crew are repeatable ways to steal your opponents creatures/nonland permanents and that's better, really all you need for this effect.
There's only 27 lands here which is not enough land; you risk getting land screwed (not drawing or have lands on the battlefield). When this happens you're not able to play cards in your hand because you don't have lands on the battlefield. Getting land screwed is not fun and since you're a new player it's even worse as it can possibly make you not want to play again.
Getting land flooded (drawing too many lands/having too much land) is also not fun, but it's better to have lands to cast spells then to not have any lands at all. If land flooded you can at least cast Brass since she's in the Command Zone. All Commander deck builders have to clear deck space for enough lands.
My advice for the manabase is if you don't want to add other lands that you don't have then add more basic lands. Play a total of 38 lands with 15-20 basic lands, split up between Islands, Swamps and Mountains. Play more Islands than the rest, next is Swamps and last is Mountains. There's more blue and black Pirates/cards than red here. If you're willing to add lands you don't already have then I can help you on a budget to upgrade the manabase starting with Command Tower .
11 cards to consider cutting to add more lands:
- Act of Treason
- Mark of Mutiny
- Selective Snare
- Contract Killing
- Storm Strike
- Bolt Bend
- Price of Fame
- Grim Captain's Call
- Train of Thought
Other cards to consider cutting to make 100 cards:
- Burn from Within
- Voyage's End
- Welding Sparks
- Pirate's Pillage
- Pirate's Prize
- Think Twice
- Mana Geode
- Eel Umbra
- Curator's Ward
- Curse of Opulence
- Metamorphic Alteration
- Octopus Umbra
- See Red
- Bloodmist Infiltrator
- Deep-Sea Kraken
- Phylactery Lich
- Kiku, Night's Flower
- Body Double
- Buccaneer's Bravado
- Blinding Flare
- Sinister Sabotage
- Costly Plunder
- Doom Blade
- Polymorphist's Jest
- Teferi's Time Twist
- Darksteel Ingot
- Stealth Mission
- Stolen Goods
- Treasure Hunt
- Brass's Bounty
- Deliver Unto Evil
- Light Up the Stage
- Sleight of Hand
- Collective Restraint
- Conqueror's Galleon Flip
- Spell Swindle
- Icy Blast
- Fated Infatuation
- Deadeye Navigator
- Lighthouse Chronologist
- Dreadhorde Invasion
- Ral, Storm Conduit
- Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
As far as cuts to consider, cut single cards that give a single effect such as stealing an opponent's creature for one turn. Only getting to cast a card once and only target one creature to steal for one turn is not good enough. Single card combat trick spells that can only target one creature are lackluster and can be cut. Auras that only help one creature and don't give evasion can also be cut. Ghostly Wings and Aqueous Form are fine since they can give Brass evasion making it easier for her to do combat damage to a player.
Simplify your deck's strategy, go with Pirates and cut the majority of the nonPirate creatures. Creatures such as Wonder , Nightveil Specter and Sower of Temptation are worth keeping especially Wonder. Specter and Sower are good cards to go with the theme of stealing your opponents cards. Clones are fine, but not high mana cost ones that can only copy a creature; honestly cut them.
Some redundancy (multiple cards that do the same effect or close to it) in Commander is good. But, if you're needing cuts then redundancy is a place to make cuts. Draw spells for instance are good redundancy such as Brainstorm , Night's Whisper , Read the Bones . These are all low mana cost/mana efficient draw spells. Opt and Sleight of Hand are also fine, but if you need cuts they can be cut. Draw spells such as Pirate's Pillage , Pirate's Prize , Train of Thought , Think Twice are not good, cut them. Low mana cost (0-2 CMC) mana rocks are more good redundancy: Sol Ring and Signets/Talismans. Chromatic Lantern and Commander's Sphere are much better than the other three drop mana rocks here; Mana Geode and Darksteel Ingot can be cut.
For your deck combat trick spells, counterspells and targeted creature removal is in my opinion bad redundancy. I'm not saying to not have these kinds of effects, but limit the amount of them you play. Counterspell for instance is a staple card of Commander play it, but Cancel , Sinister Sabotage and Rethink are worse then Counterspell, cut them. Sabotage is better than Cancel, etc.
Blasphemous Act and Fiery Cannonade is good redundancy. Murder is better than Doomblade, cut Doomblade. Sorcery or high mana cost instant creature removal can be cut such as Contract Killing and Price of Fame . Bitterblossom and Dreadhorde Invasion is good redundancy, but Bitterblossom is a much better card than Invasion. Invasion is a good card, but if you need to cut a card then cut it because you have Bitterblossom, otherwise keep it.
Spells that give all your creatures evasion of some type are fine, but don't go overboard with including lots of them because these cards do nothing without you controlling a creature; making them dead draws/dead cards in your hand too often. These kind of effects that can give all your creatures evasion are better if they can be repeatable or are a static ability such as Wonder or from an enchantment, not an aura. You want to play cards that can give your creatures lasting evasion more than a single card for a single effect on one turn.
I offer more advice if you would like. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hi everyone. My friends and i wanted to build four decks to make a Game of Thrones inspired game (similar to the one played on the Star City games YouTube Channel). I want your help to find cards thar resemble characters in the show. Here some examples i've already found:
Lazav, the Multifarious - Jaquen H'ghar
Adriana, Captain of the Guard - Brienne
Queen Marchesa - Cersei
Protector of the Crown - The Mountain
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge - The Mountain Undead
Garrulous Sycophant - Little Finger
Skyline Despot - Drogon
Tolsimir, friend to wolfes - Ned Stark
Wall of Frost - The great Wall
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions, but unfortunately none of them are good enough to make the cut!
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner is only drawing a card on 4 different creatures entering, Woodland Bellower Great Oak Guardian Terastodon , and any of those entering the battlefield means we're secure in our combo to victory, so a card isn't going to do much for us. The untap effect is nice, but paying 3 CMC for an untap we will use one time is too expensive for the deck. We also don't get synergy with Disciple of the Ring , which our instant/sorcery untaps do.
Umbral Mantle suffers from a similar situation. The idea of getting multiple untaps off one permanent is very appealing on our combo turn, but the price is simply too high. It costs 3 CMC to play, and 3 CMC for every untap after the inintial investment. Paying 6 CMC total for the first untap is simply unacceptable, even if we are able to split it into two smaller chunks on two different turns. Also doesn't combo with Disciple. Getting two or more untaps from it sounds very nice, but at the cost of 9 mana for 2 untaps we don't want to pay that price.
Fblthp, the Lost is a neat idea, but we really don't need card draw. It might have some usefulness in a future "draw your deck line" with hulk via Body Double Gigantoplasm Phantasmal Image and others, but I haven't been able to find an infinite Vannifar loop that makes it worthwhile to include all those slots in the deck. New printings in the future may make this a possibility, but it has to be better than the secondary hulk line in terms of slots and usefulness. Currently, Pili-Pala and Grand Architect are dead draws and also make us run Walking Ballista (we could cut down to only 5 different 0 drop creatures and be fine), so whatever replaces those 3 has to either be fewer slots or have higher usefulness outside combo in an actual game.
Craterhoof Behemoth looks better on paper than it is. We have to deal 120 damage (3 players x 40 life) in a swing, which means we have to have 10 other creatures without summoning sickness for Behemoth to be worthwhile (11 creatures total we can assume all 1/1's which get +10/+10, so 10 creatures x 11 power = 121 damage with some leeway as Craterhoof is a 5/5 and other creatures have higher than 1 power.) We don't have any lines that give our creatures haste, so we have to have 9 creatures that aren't Vannifar ready to swing on our combo turn. Avenger of Zendikar could possibly work, but we'd have to pass a turn before transmuting it away to make creatures combat ready. Grand Architect + Pili-Pala + Walking Ballista doesn't require a combat step, it will 100% always kill no matter if players gain life, and is an alternate wincon that fits through our Hulk package. Behemoth just doesn't make the cut.
1 month ago
Congratulations for your deck! I like the idea of cloning stuff, and I am still trying to find a build that works. If I can give you a hint, prefer cards that can clone any creature on the field over the cards that can only clone your creatures (everyone should have a Consecrated Sphinx , right? Not only your opponent).
I don't feel like would help you much with cloning. The best (and maybe only) white card that refers to cloning is Mirrorweave .
If you look at https://edhrec.com/themes/clones, you will see that almost all clone effects are blue: Clone , Vizier of Many Faces , Gigantoplasm , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Mirror Image , Supplant Form , Blatant Thievery , Clone Legion , Mirror Match . If you want to copy spells aswell, Insidious Will , Swarm Intelligence and Spelltwine are there for you.
gives you Evil Twin and all black tutors and removal.
gives you Altered Ego , Progenitor Mimic , Spitting Image and all of green ramp and removal. For me, it is the best color to splash on a blue clone deck, because it also allows the Biovisionary alternative win-condition.
As long as commander suggestions are concerned, here are some ideas:
Riku of Two Reflections is the go-to clone commander. He has all the relevant colors for cloning (), but he is crazy expensive at 20 dollars, so it might be good to consider other options:
You can have Keiga, the Tide Star as your commander. This way, you can clone him and let the copy Keiga die to the legend rule. When the Keiga copy dies, you can steal an opponent's creature, while still having the original Keiga.
You can have Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer as your commander. He is a win condition by himself, giving tokens haste and making all of them bigger. Red gives you a lot of token generators: Brass's Bounty , Flameshadow Conjuring , Storm the Vault Flip among others. Imagine creating a token copy of a Kokusho, the Evening Star , then turn all your tokens into Kokusho, then sacrificing all them to the legend rule, then draining all your oponents for lethal. Great value!
You can have Tatyova, Benthic Druid as your commander. She doesn't refer to a clone strategy, but she gives a lot of card draw by just playing lands (your hand will always be filled). You can clone Rampaging Baloths and Avenger of Zendikar for a massive win. Also, you have access to all the blue-green clones and the Biovisionary + Rite of Replication combo.
If you want to use altogether, you might consider Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder or Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis . Yidris allows you to use Evil Twin and all the black removal. Yidris also increases the value you get from playing spells by cascading into other spells. // K&T, on the other hand, gives you card advantage and makes you less threatening while you build your board. White also gives you access to great boardwipes ( Austere Command ).
All in all, good luck in your deckbuilding and have fun!
1 month ago
I could be wrong about how much some of the things I'm am going to list may effect your deck, but these are my thoughts on your list.
1) Cut the FETCHLANDS. Yes this seems like a bad idea at first, but as a three color deck with so much card draw in it already they don't provide much help with mana fixing. Okay, but then you say they thin the deck. Yeah they do, but they hurt all of your bottom deck manipulation making all of your Serum Visions , Opt , and Sleight of Hand even more mediocre than they already are.
2) Cut 1 Reveillark . I started my list with two, but I found with so much card selection I could always find a way prevent myself from drawing at least one and that's all you need in the library for the combo to work. Something to remember also is that since you have so many discard outlets drawing Reveillark will never be a problem for you. All you have to do is discard the one Reveillark in your deck and use Protean Hulk to find Viscera Seer and Body Double , Body Double enters as Protean Hulk , sac the new Protean Hulk (aka Body Double ), find Mogg Fanatic and another Body Double , have the new Body Double enter as a copy of Reveillark , and proceed to loop the Mogg Fanatic and Body Double for the win.
1 month ago
ETB Clones: Infinite Reflection , Mirrorpool , Spark Double , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Clever Impersonator , Dack's Duplicate , Evil Twin , Gigantoplasm , Mirror Image , Phantasmal Image , Phyrexian Metamorph , Protean Raider , Quicksilver Gargantuan , Progenitor Mimic , Sakashima the Impostor , Sakashima's Student , Stunt Double , Vizier of Many Faces , Altered Ego , Bramble Sovereign .
Just some cards, hope that helps.
2 months ago
- Body Double
- Elvish Rejuvenator
- Ephara, God of the Polis
- Fierce Empath
- Meteor Golem
- Militia Bugler
- Sunblast Angel
- Thousand-Year Elixir
2 months ago
And a few others.
Body Double occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%