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Pristine Talisman Discussion
3 weeks ago
This ended up being really, really long...so if it's TL;DR or you feel too critical, feel free to delete it (I wouldn't even complain at this point). Hard to really see this as an "Enchantress" deck while only being able to use Mesa Enchantress and NOT including a Serra's Sanctum to boot. Much more simply an Enchantment heavy Angel deck, which I definitely approve of since I love both Enchantments and Angels, but the title is misleading.
Enchantress is a deck centered around the Enchantress triggers of Argothian Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence, Eidolon of Blossoms; and if you're adding a color, you add White so you can use Mesa Enchantress and Femeref Enchantress. Without this core, it's not Enchantress.
As for the rest of the deck, it looks like it should be able to hold its own, but would probably improve with some cheaper Angels or more ramp. I used to run Voltron Akroma, Angel of Wrath and had to use tons of mana rocks just to make it playable. Akroma also cost 5WWW to get the FIRST time soooo....yeah...
Angels:Serra Avenger, Angelic Page, Emancipation Angel, Seraph of the Sword, Sustainer of the Realm, Angel of Condemnation, Seraph of Dawn, Blinding Angel, Herald of the Host, Angel of Sanctions, Angelic Arbiter, Angel of Serenity, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Resolute Archangel, Archangel of Thune, Baneslayer Angel, Serra Ascendant, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Iona, Shield of Emeria.
Enchantments:Serra's Blessing, Brave the Sands, True Conviction, Righteous Cause, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, Endless Horizons, Spirit Loop, Karmic Justice, Nevermore, Seal of Cleansing, Sphere of Safety, Spiritual Focus, Starfield of Nyx, Worship, Moat, Test of Endurance
Rocks/Ramp:Land Tax is pricey, but the best mono white land grabber in the game.Gilded Lotus, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Manalith, Fellwar Stone, Spectral Searchlight, Darksteel Ingot, Mind Stone, Thran Dynamo, Pristine Talisman, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Explorer's Scope, Thunder Totem, Marble Diamond.
Other:Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Howling Mine, Demystify, Disenchant, Fragmentize, Forsake the Worldly, Fumigate, Aetherflux Reservoir, Approach of the Second Sun, Faith Healer, Grand Abolisher, Open the Vaults, Replenish, Second Sunrise, Oketra's Monument
A number of these are pretty pricey (and definitely out of my price range) but as someone who plays White in every format he plays, a Tribal player and an Enchantress player, I can go on and on and on about these kinds of decks...This deck happens to have a White-centric tribe and is Enchantment based. XD My apologies.
4 weeks ago
Excellent :) my LGS had a couple copies of it as I didnt want to take it out of my other decks its in :)
Check out my take on this commander :) I went with more creatures and less instants/sorceries and tried to theme it with as many boros named Creatures as playable, I figured its important to be able to survive the earlier rounds while building up enough mana to pull out the commander and cast a spell or two... I also went with Angelic Accord but tried to tailor the instant and sorceries so that when AA is in play it always generates an angel and I dont miss out by one life not gained, granted your use of Pristine Talisman will help with that but didnt want to have to rely on having such conditions to make it work...
1 month ago
Angel's Feather allows for an easy ETB life gain, even if it is only 1 per spell, it can help. Another artifact is Pristine Talisman which can be used for [colorless] mana and continuous life gain. One of the ultimate cards for EDH lifegain would be Venser's Journal as then you do not have to worry about overfilling your hand and can help you out if you have a slower deck. Another potential card is Suture Priest which does the same as Soul Warden but with the added benefit of damaging opponents (which can help you win). Blood Tithe can be useful in larger games along with Death Grasp and Debt to the Deathless. Since you have the potential for large sums of creatures on the field you could throw in Campaign of Vengeance which could boost you pretty well. Congregate can allow for a giant boost in life. Angelic Accord can be a potential win condition type thing where you can get a constant flow of angels (until they destroy the enchantment) but this could quickly become a threat to your opponents.
I would also suggest some mana rocks like Sol Ring and Astral Cornucopia since you have 35 land and you will want to get to roughly 7-8 mana production per turn by around turn 5-6. It might also be potentially smart to include Fumigate (or some other board wipe but fumigate fits into the lifegain) for last-ditch efforts.
1 month ago
Nice! I like lifegain Karlov a lot, been considering building him.
Glad you already have Well of lost dreams and Sunbond because those were my first suggestions.
Blind Obedience is good control and more lifegain triggers.
Vona, Butcher of Magan is a great compliment to the commander and a good lifegain payoff. This is important because why gain life if you can't use it to your advantage? Along that line of thinking, Phyrexian Arena and Necropotence are great card draw engines, and Phyrexian Reclamation is great recursion.
Since you have no mana base yet, I'll finish up with that. Pristine Talisman, Crypt Ghast, Scoured Barrens, Bontu's Monument, and Radiant Fountain will all get you some life triggers. Orzhov Signet, Command Tower, Orzhov Basilica, Tainted Field, Caves of Koilos, Isolated Chapel, Temple of Silence, Opal Palace, Terramorphic Expanse, Shambling Vent, and a bunch of plains and swaps to equal about 36 lands.
Hope some of this helps!
1 month ago
3 months ago
There is an approach to deck building called The Rule of 9. You begin by selecting nine cards. Each of these cards becomes a full play set (4 cards) yielding 36 cards in your deck. After that, place 24 basic lands and you have a deck that will consistently use your ideas to win or lose. If you like the results then you refine the deck with ideas such a mana curve, utility, and synergy.
Let's play 24 lands to ensure we have good opening hands and draw plenty of mana. Sure, we may flood out from time to time. Yeah, we may brick some draws. But nothing feels worse than seeing everything you could do if you just had some lands. Here is a succinct statistical look at why you play 24 lands.
Angelic Destiny: A great way to win the game. can take an 0/1 and turn it into a decent attacker and blocker. Does better work on things with lifelink or vigilance or double strike. Or all three.
Aerial Responder: On his own, Aerial Responder is a strong contender. He attacks and blocks well, he gains life, he's evasive...a renaissance man. When we look at curving into Angelic Destiny on four we begin to feel a slight tingle in our pants.
Pacifism: Most decent decks pack some form of removal. Pacifism is a far cry from primo, but since you're mono-white weenies you'll take what you can get and be happy with it.
By my count, we are at four of nine. This leaves us with five cards to choose. From here we can choose different ways to continue to build upon what we've done so far. Sometimes we will be playing a full four of and other times we might play less. It depends on the curve and how many slots we have available.
I've grouped these into cards that play well together. This first set is about making an army with your Angelic Accord.
Angels and Solitude
Angelic Accord gives us an engine to work with. All this card asks is that we gain life in increments of at least four. As a reward we get 4/4 angel tokens. Fulfilling these requirements can build a formidable army.
Lone Rider Flip: If you are doing Angelic Accord things, then you'll hopefully be gaining 3 or more life a turn and the flip on him will be easier. A 4/4 first strike, trample, lifelink on (possibly) turn three is a good set up into a turn four Angelic Accord. Also makes an 8/8 lifelink, first strike, trample, flier with Angelic Destiny.
Lone Missionary: Two mana, gain four life and get a 2/1 body. Flip your Lone Rider Flip, make an angel off of Angelic Accord, put a counter on Ajani's Pridemate. This card can enable a lot of the things you are trying to do, both in the early and late game. Play it for a reason and with a plan, running it out simply because #YOLO is a waste and will lose you game.
Solemn Offering: Interaction with decks that strongly utilize artifacts or enchantments while gaining four (wow, much amaze) life. For some silly times, you can blow up your own Pacifism to give your opponent back a creature worse than a 4/4 angel token (Angelic Accord is necessary for this to work). Not every deck plays relevant artifacts and/or enchantments so it is likely you only play one as a failsafe.
"Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east."
Make a big, wide army of tokens and overwhelm your opponent.
Raise the Alarm: Classic token generator. Play this end of opponent's turn to be able to attack next turn. Flash block 2/2 for value. There are just so many uses for this card.
Honor of the Pure: Anthem effect that gets better in multiples and hits all of your creatures (duh). You gain more power the wider your army is.
"THIS IS MY BOOMSTICK!"
Loxodon Warhammer: Probably just a one of. But what if any creature in your deck could make an angel token with Angelic Accord and this? Or flip a Lone Rider Flip or put a counter on Ajani's Pridemate?
Crested Sunmare : Paired up with two or three Pristine Talisman and you can build an army of indestructible horses. For maximum efficiency, tap the talismans on your opponent's turn and attack with the 5/5s on your turn.
Heliod's Pilgrim: Two and a white to find your Angelic Destiny. Or Pacifism. Or Shielded by Faith. Or Pentarch Ward. Or Soul Tithe. Or Prison Term. This type of tutoring effect allows you to become a toolbox of answers and threats. Play two to help with consistently finding your finisher or answer.
Path of Bravery: Gaining life for attack with creatures and buffing said creatures when you've gained enough life. Seems sweet. If you have neither life nor an army, however, this card doesn't actual nothing. Play with no more than two.
"Let me explain...no, there is too much. Let me sum up."
Pick a core group of seven (28 total) cards. With your remaining slots pick some combinations of the other listed cards and then playtest. With any luck and through many games, you will find what works and doesn't and will make adjustments as you see fit. The cards I've listed are by no means the end all be all of what is out there, but I feel they are a nice jumping off point and a good discussion on deck building principles and techniques. This site also lets you playtest your deck so you can see how your draws look and play out a couple hands to see what you are capable of doing with the cards you've chosen.
3 months ago
Stuff to consider adding:Pontiff of BlightSuture PriestPristine TalismanBygone BishopHour of RevelationAuthority of the ConsulsMortifyVizkopa GuildmageDrana's EmissaryCliffhaven VampireAyli, Eternal PilgrimBlood Baron of VizkopaVampire NighthawkMavren Fein, Dusk ApostleDark ImpostorAdanto VanguardBishop of the BloodstainedMalakir BloodwitchBloodline NecromancerAnowon, the Ruin SagePatron of the VeinBloodlord of VaasgothVoldaren Pariah FlipButcher of MalakirUrge to FeedDecree of PainUnderworld ConnectionsCostly PlunderChampion of DuskMorbid CuriosityAltar's ReapDusk Legion ZealotDiabolic Tutor
Stuff I'd take out:Basilica ScreecherDauntless AvenHarvester of SoulsSilverblade PaladinTithe DrinkerYosei, the Morning StarConqueror's Galleon FlipHedron ArchiveMagnifying GlassPrismatic LensPuppet StringsSword of the ParunsBlessed AllianceOpen the ArmoryCradle of Vitality
I like the idea of a vampire subtheme, it unintentionally works very well with what I feel like you're trying to do, and there's a ton of great support and synergy from the precon and ixalan stuff.