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Celestial Flare Discussion
2 weeks ago
36 lands is as low as I'd want to go here. So if I were going to cut 5 cards, they might include the following.
Sandsteppe Mastodon - Very powerful, but as a one time ability on a high costing card I'm not a fan.
Dromoka Captain - I feel like this will take too many attacks before it starts generating real value, and on its first attack is so easy to block and kill.
Not Forgotten - Pretty narrow at sorcery speed.
There are some other cards I'd consider making swaps for too, but I think these are less important than upping our lands first. But some choices:
Naga Vitalist/Druid of the Cowl/Honored Hierarch - These could be Rampant Growth, Kodama's Reach, or Cultivate. Things that put lands into play are usually better in Commander, since board wipes are so common. The Rishkar, Peema Renegade mentioned earlier would be the only creature I would really consider here, but thats just me.
Celestial Flare/Swift Reckoning - Looking at removal, Blessed Alliance has a little more flexibility. Beast Within is a little costly, but its one of the best things green can run since it hits everything. Sylvan Reclamation fixes land, or gets rid of two problem artifacts or enchantments, very useful! Ainok Survivalist is another possible option, again b/c you don't have many things to deal with artifacts or enchantments. Caustic Caterpillar is worth a look too.
If you already have the cards in your list, then try them out before swapping over this is all just general thoughts since I haven't played the deck. Adding those lands is really my #1 desire.
2 weeks ago
You should try to run more 4 offs on your deck, having lots of single copies of cards reduces the deck consistency and makes it feel very clunky. Also, since your goal is to build a deck with a strong late game you need to include the means to not die until you get there, so let's work on that first.
You're already running 3 Emancipation Angel, maybe adding 4 copies of Wall of Omens as a support cards is a good idea, Wall of Omens is a good blocker for the early game, draws you a card and is a great target for the Emancipation Angel effect. I recommend cutting some of the 6 mana cost cards for the Wall of Omens. Restoration Angel can also flick Wall of Omens and is a solid creature on its on, including 3 or 4 of them would be nice.
Archangel of Tithes has a solid body and helps slowing down an aggressive opponent, consider adding some to the deck.
Now, there are lots of cards on your deck that don't really help achieving your goal and can be cut without worries. I would start by cutting Tranquil Cove and Prairie Stream for 4 Emeria, The Sky Ruin. Sigarda's Aid only interacts with 4 cards on your deck, there's not enough support for it to be effective and every single artifact on the deck except Quicksilver Amulet can also be cut without problems. You can cut these cards for more early game bodies and support to your lifegain sub-theme with Lone Missionary/Inquisitor Exarch or removal with Path to Exile/Celestial Flare.
Also, Sun Titan is not an angel but does exactly what you're looking for.
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2 months ago
I think Soul Warden or Soul's Attendant will do more work than Soldier of the Pantheon. You might also consider Kazandu Blademaster - even without any other Allies, a 2/2 with first strike and vigilance is nothing to scoff at.
2 months ago
Sliver_god, thank you! Super helpful feedback. I've switched the attendants to mainboard, and made several changes to the sideboard. I have a question about the correct numbers for the removal package though. Right now I'm two and two on Journey to Nowhere and Celestial Flare. The flare is there to take care of hexproof creatures, though I haven't actually played against a boggles deck yet. Do you think that's right?
Also, I'm curious about how well Standard Bearer plays. I haven't actually purchased them yet, but they seem to absolutely shut down a lot of green decks that rely on pumps or enchantments. Any experience playing with them?
3 months ago
not sure how your creature base helps with infect, most of them are too small to have any impact.
also aside from using burn/reflect spells, how do you win?
3 months ago
Path vs Journey/other lesser white removal: Sure, Path is good. But I don't think it's $6 good. Giving opponents an extra land is, IMO, an understated disadvantage. The CMC isn't the issue with Journey, it's that it's an enchantment and therefore subject to removal. All things aside, I've chosen Journey because the CMC is bearable, it doesn't cost that much to buy (This is a budget deck; also, I've had a full set for years now anyway), and it doesn't give opponents any huge advantage. Believe it or not, that free land Path grants can turn out to be really bad.
18 lands is good here. If you look at the curve, you'll see there are very few cards over 2CMC. This deck can work surprisingly well with just 2-3 lands out. I don't usually have as much land out as opponents, but it wins anyway. Running fewer lands here means more slots for 1 drop creatures.
Angelic Overseer fits because all my creatures are Human (not Soldiers). Having a hexproof, indestructible flyer can be a fun nail in the coffin, but I don't expect to draw it often or play it often, or even need it at all. It's pretty much in there for fun because there are no other high CMC spells in the deck.
Yes, the theme here is +1/+1 counters. All the creatures here have a way to get counters on their own. If/when Abzan Falconer hits, the deck usually wins. Even without the Falconer, this deck consistently puts out 4-5 creatures that all exceed 4/4 by t4-t5, and that's usually fast enough to out-big opponents turn after turn.
Ordeal of Heliod would probably be the first card I'd consider dropping. I like it because I can cast it on a creature with 2 +1/+1 counters already on it, add an extra counter and get 10 life all in the same turn. That gives this deck that extra staying power that can mean the difference between winning and losing. It's also good for sideboarding out, which is great. I see a lot of decks with all their removal in the sideboard, but nothing in the mainboard that can easily be taken away. Celestial Flare is great because it gets around hexproof and indestructible, which in my tiny circle, is clutch. It also sees a lot of back and forth in and out of the sideboard. Since almost the entire deck can be played for 2CMC or less, I end up top-decking pretty quickly. Tezzeret's Gambit is absolutely amazing here. Adding a +1/+1 counter to each of my creatures (think about that with Mikeaus, the Lunarch!) and drawing 2 cards is just sick.
Honor of the Pure is okay, but I see it as weaker than things that give permanent counters. For example, Mikeaus, the Lunarch gives each creature I control a +1/+1 counter. Even if Mike is removed, the counters stay. With Honor, if it's removed, all my creatures suffer. Add in that Honor doesn't have a body, and it doesn't look so great. When Mike hits, Champs and Lieutenants get pumped on the spot because of their tribal effects. Honor, being an enchantment, is not as good.
Metallic Mimic gets removed almost every time I play it. I added 2x in because having 2 Mikes in hand sucks. My real issue with the Mimic is that it only works when it gets out early. Late game it doesn't do much. I've considered running Adaptive Automaton, but I don't really like the its CMC. The other creatures I've been considering is Hanweir Militia Captain Flip or Ranger of Eos - both would equate to major pumps for my other creatures, tho Ranger's CMC would require a larger land base.
I've looked through a lot of cards judiciously for this deck. The weakest points are Hada Freeblade and Kazandu Blademaster - I don't want to go full on Allies - there aren't enough that fit the theme - but there aren't better low CMC creatures that generate their own counters. It's not great when A Blademaster hits but then stays stuck at 2/2 while other creatures get larger around it. For that reason, sometimes I make Mimics Allies instead of Humans, which also isn't ideal, but often works out anyway.