Thoughtcast

Thoughtcast

Sorcery

Affinity for artifacts (This spell costs (1) less to play for each artifact you control.)

Draw two cards.

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Set Rarity
Mystery Booster (MYS1) Common
Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2) Common
Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (DDF) Common
Mirrodin (MRD) Common

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Legality

Format Legality
Casual Legal
Unformat Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Legacy Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Modern Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Pauper Legal
Noble Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Highlander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Leviathan Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Thoughtcast occurrence in decks from the last year

Modern:

All decks: 0.04%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.01%

Thoughtcast Discussion

Flooremoji on Mono U Artisacs

6 days ago

Ok, I really like the concept of the deck, and as a combo player having somthing like this in pauper would make me much more interested in the format.

But I don't know if you can do a KCI style deck in pauper, here are some of the problems I have found playing this deck:

KCI was based around playing Krark-Clan Ironworks, and a bunch of card neutral mana positive/mana neutral card positive artifacts while using Scrap Trawler for both more mana and cards until you can set up an infinite loop. In pauper, you can't get the same quality of artifacts (well, you can, but you can't sac them to Ashnod's Altar), and you are going to be settling for mana positive card negative or double neutral or whatever. Combined with the fact that we don't have a recursion engine (in my testing the biggest problem for combo decks in this format) outside of Reaping the Graves, it becomes a nightmare to storm off.

Etherium Sculptor seems 100% key to having a chance at storming off, alowing Workshop Assistant and eggs to be double neutral and Myr Retriever to be mana positive, this card gives you a glimmer of hope of storming off, but you really don't have enough ways to draw cards. Most of the stuff you have are card neutral, and Thoughtcast has proven very difficult to play (even then, it isn't part of the combo so you can't get it back etc.) and having only 4 draw two cards isn't enough for the consistency you want for comboing.

Anyhow, thoose were some of my problems with this deck in it's current form. My best idea so far is to stop going for draw-through-entire-deck-make-a-bunch-of-mana, and lean more into: cantrip a few times, make some mana, go infinite. Until we can get a card like KCI that sacs artifacts and gains mana (for stuff like Ichor Wellspring, making trinkets mana posiitive and card neutral etc.) Even then, we still don't have scrap trawler so it would probably still be inconsistent.

Just some thoughts, good luck with your deck!

Boza on Martian Landscape

5 months ago

Is there a reason this deck is black-green only? You are missing some of the most powerful cards for artifact based decks by excluding the other colors. Thoughtcast, Atog, Myr Enforcer (you need a critical mass of cards for that one), etc. Not to be a downer, but the pinging lands are not very good. Have you build/tested this deck? It seems for an aggro deck it is a bit slow.

Flooremoji on Affinity Comeback

5 months ago

Is scale really worth it in the side? Fells pretty underwhelming for a deck without much card advantage. I am inclined to believe that some form of card advantage would be better in that spot such as Thoughtcast. Hell, I think you could fit some Thoughtcasts in the main :)

Farycane on Emry, Lurker of the Loch [Turn 1 Victory]

6 months ago

Hey I don't know if you are still updating this List, but I may have some ideas that may be an upgrade

Crystal Vein for an Island

Narset, Parter of Veils not exactly sure what to take out, but not let opponents draw is great

Shimmer Myr Better than Leyline in many cases, recurable with Emry

Search for Azcanta  Flip Flip ability is super interactive

Soul-Guide Lantern Finally able to play artifact based onesided grave hate! Great new card

Sculpting Steel Phyrexian Metamorph depends a little, but there are some really nice artifacts to copy. Best I got was T1 2 Manacrypts but even Thornbite or Boots/Greaves are good to have as backup

Muddle the Mixture Tutor and Interaction, would kick out Tribute Mage for that

Riddlesmith would play rather than Vedalken Archmage. 2 Mana less und you have Grave access

Counterbalance really hard to Play against

Stifle for Disallow, 3 Mana ist much for a counter, Maybe Tale's End fits better than Stifle

Thoughtcast Visions of Beyond Some cantrip/Draw isn't always bad.

Retract Save from Artifact Wipes, basically a Ritual with fast mana, triggering Archmage/Riddlesmith etc again on recast

Freed from the Real not a loop, but really good untapper

Drafna's Restoration at instant this would be way too good, but still very good card

Chromatic Star Conjurer's Bauble take 1 mana more than the Other baubles (chromatic 2 to get startet), but drawing immediatly. Worth a Shot. Drawing a card extra on your turn can be important

Sensei's Divining Top Interactive, nearly unkillable, smooths draws

Tezzeret the Seeker Battlefield Tutor, 5 mana Reshape costs Boardpresence and finds 3 or less cmc (which is enough for combopieces) but Tezzi for 3 let's him stay on the Battlefield. Untapping Sol Ring and Vault e.g. with his +1 makes im nearly free

Corridor Monitor Not a good substitution for Mirran Spy or Chakram, but still usable. You can + on colorless mana as long as you have blue with KCI or Ashnods, as said, not nearly as good, but good enough to get some storm count to finish of opponents

I found this list from your Youtube video. Great work! I love the Budget Substitution at the end of the video. You do a really nice job with your channel! Keep going

DreadKhan on Legacy Affinity

6 months ago

I'm doing a janky budget build that isn't entirely different, and I'm surprised at how well Syndicate Trafficker plays. A 3/1 will trade with a lot, 2 mana is fine for 3 power, and his ability can really screw up blockers, while he also is growing. I'm not saying he's a good enough card for your level, mostly curious if you think he's reasonable for a lower tier deck of this type.

More regarding your deck, would Baleful Strix be of interest? I was thinking it might play stronger than Thoughtcast .

king-saproling on Atemsis, All-Seeing

6 months ago

Atemsis is very neat. I like the way you organized your list.

You might consider these cards: Coalition Relic (can get Atemsis out on turn 4), Urza's Incubator , Muddle the Mixture (finds either piece of dramatic scepter), Spellseeker (finds Muddle), Rush of Knowledge , Assert Authority , Thoughtcast , Concentrate , Vedalken Mastermind , AEthersnipe , River Serpent , Lay Claim , Striped Riverwinder , Floodwaters , Windcaller Aven , New Perspectives

omnath31 on Affinity for Oathbreaker

10 months ago

Thoughtcast seems a better signature spell. Also do not forget to use Vault of Whispers and Seat of the Synod . The Tron Lands would also fit this deck well as it seems a bit slow.

Since you have access to black, you should consider some tutors, Demonic Tutor , Diabolic Intent or a budget Diabolic Tutor .

Vulnoth on Scarecrow

11 months ago

Alright, let's get back in the field.

'Crow Support

Lords and Anthems

A longtime staple for tribes, dating all the way back to Zombie Master , and almost every tribe wants them. Since you're looking to put a lot of 'Crows on board, Lords of course buff them, and enables your ability to close a game without depending on commander damage. Some come with bells and whistles, and depending on what build you want, not all of these will make the cut. Anthems help with this as well, but vanilla Anthems won't give you the same mileage as a Lord. Nevertheless, it's worth considering everything at your disposal.

Adaptive Automaton - A standard Lord that mixes with any tribe, and maybe not ideal for Reaper, Lords are just good in general

Brass Herald - A little costly, but a recruiter and Lord in one is a nice option; I would only be comfortable recommending this if your creature count is high

Metallic Mimic - A de facto Lord, and is prime for ETB abuse

Etchings of the Chosen - Making your general hard to deal with should always be welcome

Radiant Destiny - I think Vigilance is a little too vanilla to make the cut in EDH, but it's worth considering

Shared Triumph - As far as Anthems go, this one is sold mostly by its appealing mana cost

Door of Destinies - Given that you will cast a lot of Scarecrows, Door will put in work

Icon of Ancestry , Vanquisher's Banner - An Anthem that can also access more advantage will serve you well

Other Support

Cover of Darkness - I think Cover is a little too Voltron-ish for King, but it's an option

Kindred Boon - Mostly just protection for King and at least is worth considering

Steely Resolve - Tribe-wide Shroud seems very good for any tribe that can use it

That Which Was Taken - Protection for anything, plus synergizes with Artifact support

Advantage Generation

Draw

Drawing is strange in EDH. Not everything good is usable here since you still want to find synergy, but there are plenty of options, and most of them will serve you well on a budget.

Deep Analysis - Its initial cost can be rough, but Flashback is great,

Dig Through Time - Given how long EDH games can go, Dig usually has plenty of Delve fodder to be affordable

Distant Melody - A decent choice for any EDH tribal

Thoughtcast - Solid in anything Artifacts

Greed - It's an option

Mind Stone - Doubles over as a mana rock, but its draw ability is mainly what you want for late game

Slate of Ancestry - It's " Distant Melody " on an Artifact

Thopter Spy Network - Generates fodder and enables draws, and while maybe not great, is nice nonetheless

Tutors and the Like

Consistency in function is crucial to your deck, and depending on who all you play with, the tempo of games could afford you time for otherwise less ideal options.

Scheming Symmetry - Better with more people at the table, but is an option

Planar Portal - Maybe a little costly, but it tutors anything and is a personal favorite

Planar Bridge - Even more costly than Portal, but can just churn a permanent out of the deck

Whir of Invention - Since Tinker will never be legal, this is what you got

Saheeli's Directive - Costly, but powerful, plus it gives a little extra utility to Artifacts that you don't immediately have use for or don't tap

Lands

I'm no expert in juggling lands for multicolor EDH, but there are some solid good stuff lands for such a format. This is probably where most of your attention is going to go because Shocks, Fetches, and the like are outside your budget, leaving you working with more strict cards. I'm including transforming cards because the Land forms are mostly what will concern you, although keep in mind their original forms should provide some utility as well.

Arch of Orazca - A colorless land can suck, but one that can keep cards in hand is worth noting

Command Tower - Don't question it

Glimmervoid - Staple for Artifact EDH

Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip - Can grab a creature, easily transforms, and if you manage that, it can be a nice mana source

Journey to Eternity  Flip - Production of any mana and reanimation is nice, and in a format where everything dies, transforming it shouldn't be hard

Mirrodin's Core - Super budget and requires some planning, but is flexible

Opal Palace - Decent fixing, plus it softens the pain of casting your general for the sixth time in a game

Path of Ancestry Color fixing with perks for casting your general

Storm the Vault  Flip - In Artifact EDH, it transforms for almost nothing into Tolarian Academy , and I guess it can also produce any mana

What to Ditch

This is where I start to fall off, since I've only ever built Voltron and Superfriends EDH decks. But I do have solid overall advice for deck building, period: consider what cards bring to the table. If you find that a card doesn't quite work well, look for something to better get this machine working. Try to get as much synergy out of your cards as possible, so things with linear and okay-ish function may not be worth keeping. Always test and see what happens. A lot of things that are good on paper don't iron out in practice, and likewise things that don't iron out on paper are great in practice.

Hopefully this all helps you find your way with the deck. Of course, since I'm no expert in this field, feel free to do further research for tips and cards. There are plenty of other King EDH decks on TappedOut, and people love to build things differently, so there likely are going to be things I've missed that someone else considers a no-brainer inclusion. Additionally, utilize Google and MTGSalvation for more ideas. Lastly, deckcycling puts it on the front page for people to see, and possibly give you a hand. There's a lot of room to build here, and there are likewise a lot of people who can advise you.

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