Whenever a player plays a spell, Spellshock deals 2 damage to that player.
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4 days ago
Hey, interesting budget version of Kykar.
Lots of burn here doesn't have enough oomph when each opponent will have 40 or more life. Glacial Ray, Magma Spray, Lightning Helix and other single effect burn spells like this are subpar in multiplayer Commander. Flame Rift doesn't do enough, hitting all players for 4 damage a single time is not worth a card. Even being able to flashback these spells with Backdraft Hellkite isn't good enough because they're only doing damage to one player. Some advice is research Torbran, Thane of Red Fell burn decks and mimic the burn strategy with Kykar?
Barbs and Earth seem like very good repeatable burn sources with Kykar since have lots of mana rocks (could have more), Spirits can make red mana and playing lots of basic lands. Tremors and Goblin Bombardment want an infinite combo for they're burn that can create infinite tokens with Kykar or Saheeli, Sublime Artificer.
By adding this budget combo you add some more competitiveness to your deck and Guttersnipe is another burn win condition with the combo. You can't do this combo if you control Spellshock. But with Jeskai you have many options that can bounce/tuck/destroy an enchantment before comboing while still keeping it in your control to burn your opponents until you want to combo.
What Kykar provides for a burn strategy is extra damage from attacking with fliers, 1/1 Spirits and Kykar. Animosity can make Spirits more of attacking threats and with a lot of them a win condition. Consider increasing the fort with Obedience and Prison? Obedience can also be a nice source of repeatable life gain with extort since you gain life each time equal to the number of opponents you have.
Consider adding more draw as well as more mana efficient draw to expand on spellslinger?
Tandem Lookout when soulbond to a creature who can do damage to an opponent or all opponents you draw cards. Use this interaction with Guttersnipe since when he does damage you draw a number of cards equal to the number of opponents you have. Zo-Zu the Punisher is also good with Lookout because all players can play lands including yourself to draw. Lookout can change who it's soulbond to which is really helpful to first soulbond with flying Kykar or a Spirit and then change when a creature ETB who can do damage to opponents.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Fog Bank
- Essence Backlash
- Boros Fury-Shield
- Glacial Ray
- Magma Spray
- Momentary Blink
- Lightning Helix
- Faith's Shield
- Flame Rift
- Not Forgotten
- Martyr's Cause
- Backdraft Hellkite
Good luck with your deck.
11 months ago
I have been working crazy long hours recently so my play time at my LGS has taken a hit! However, the only 'main' problem I can see so far is that this deck is pretty mana hungry for making cheeky plays. As far as leaving up mana for Consumptive Goo or Rod of Ruin plays in tandem with Puppet Strings, Jandor's Saddlebags and Vhati, it can get costly. It is obvious that, with this being inspired by the B/G/x rock decks of old, we are very comfortable in the mid- late game. That is of course not to suggest we are bad in the early game either, we just do more as the games go on. Playing a criminally underrated Commander helps us as we are certainly NEVER the main focus at any table.
Notably (to probably, literally nobodies surprise) Seedborn Muse is the best play for this deck as fast as possible and is quite literally napalm stapled to a 2/4 body! Centaur Glade with Seedborn Muse and Kamahl, Fist of Krosa was pretty degenerate. Most of the decks I end up running into have a Taxes or Control type shell. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite does not hurt this deck as bad as you'd think and access to green lets us power thru most Thalia, Guardian of Thraben or Grand Arbiter Augustin IV effects.
As for an upcoming 'Pre-Modern" styled deck, I am really intrigued by playing a 'Bleed Out' style deck with Ankh of Mishra, Manabarbs, Spellshock, Citadel of Pain and Sulfuric Vortex style jund deck. Commanders in the running's are Xira Arien or Adun Oakenshield to lead this idea! It's in the works :)
11 months ago
Hmm. Well, I suppose it really depends on how you want to focus your deck. I can see three paths here: 1 you leave the deck mostly as it is - 2 you take out more of your dusters/sweepers and focus on damage from creatures to win - or 3 you take out creatures and add more board control cards (including more dusters/sweepers and punishment cards).
I have a monored deck that, while very different than this, went down the later route. It is geared more towards a lockdown strategy and uses cards like Earthquake, Fault Line, Molten Disaster, and Comet Storm. Because these are global effects, I have few creatures and those that I do have are very expendable. This deck also plays punishment cards like Spellshock, Burning Earth, and Price of Glory to get in chip damage throughout the match (which also pairs ver, very nicely with damage doublers!).
Red also has glorious land control to help balance against explosive ramp. Along with ruination and blood moon, you could run Boil and Wildfire if you are interested in that. I don't run these personally but they are quite good. Do remember that these are salty cards though and maybe bring it up with other players before the match and be prepared to swap the cards or play a different deck if you end up using a lot of mass land destruction.
Hope this helps a little??
1 year ago
Nice!! I was thinking of how to upgrade my Hallar deck and I came across this decklist. I found some possibly major upgrades, specifically, Spellshock and Pyrostatic Pillar. I want more of these similar to Hallar, the Firefletcher effects. :)
I also want to suggest Heroic Intervention. To save your side when you destroy lands.
1 year ago
I like the group slug in combination with a pillowfort idea. Gisela's wording offers a pretty unique opportunity. Triggered effects that would deal 1 damage to you while she is on the board deal no damage to you instead, but double damage to opponents. Manabarbs, AEther Sting, Battle Strain, Burning Earth, Heat of Battle, Rampaging Ferocidon, City of Brass, Talisman of Conviction, Battlefield Forge are all cards that would have their negative effect negated if Gisela is on the field, while opponents would suffer more.
Ankh of Mishra, Psychogenic Probe, Eidolon of the Great Revel, Pyrostatic Pillar, Repercussion, Spellshock, Zo-Zu the Punisher would all be cards that have their negative effects mitigated with Gisela out and opponents would suffer a lot more.
You could complement this game plan with pieces like War's Toll, Caltrops, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Aura of Silence, Glowrider, Sphere of Resistance, Thorn of Amethyst, Vryn Wingmare, Ghostly Prison, Windborn Muse to tax and slow them down while all the slug effects eat away at life totals.
I feel like there's quite a bit of space to be explored in this niche for Gisela.
1 year ago
You can go with a "Group Slug" theme. Group Slug uses cards that hurt everyone on the field--Burning Earth, Manabarbs, Spellshock, etc.--with some mechanism to ensure you are the last one standing (like Gisela's one-sided damage doubling). Throw in some classic Red/White Stax pieces like Stranglehold, Blood Moon, Aura of Silence, and Aven Mindcensor, alongside some other damage doublers like Furnace of Rath, and you have yourself a deck.
1 year ago
Thanks for the +1 and I did pull something from your deck which I like. Spellshock is most likely going to find a home in this deck haha
1 year ago
- I wanted this build to be more of a group slug deck than a stax deck. You can totally build Mogis stax, but for this, orb works against cards I would rather have on the board like Manabarbs and Spellshock.
- Having orb in play puts a really big target on your head while not actively damaging your opponents, which is really hard to work around if you aren't running blue or white.
- Orb is just a card that hurts this deck too much. Yes, this does also set your opponents back, but the average CMC of this deck is just too high to make it worth it.
Also yes Fiery Emancipation is absolutely going in the deck :)