Legendary Creature — Elder Demon
When Demonlord Belzenlok enters the battlefield, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card, then put that card into your hand. If the card’s converted mana cost is 4 or greater, repeat this process. Demonlord Belzenlok deals 1 damage to you for each card put into your hand this way.
|Have (2)||GeminiSpartanX , metalmagic|
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|Dominaria (DOM)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Demonlord Belzenlok occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Demonlord Belzenlok Discussion
1 month ago
You have a couple lands that might come in tapped, but in my opinion Amulet of Vigor isn't giving you enough value, a blocker sometimes, or a mana sometimes. In playing, I would count the number of activates and utility. Did it untap a permanent (y/n), and did you end up utilizing that untapped (y/n). If yy <= 50% it should go.
What about a Bloodgift Demon for some extra draw, or good ole Phyrexian Arena since you need to refill your hand for Strionic Resonator. Demonlord Belzenlok I also prefer over either of those, since he ETB draws, sometimes 2 cards.
Hellkite Tyrant is really nice, can accumulate mana rocks.
The talisman's are very cheap, and the best 2-mana rocks Talisman of Hierarchy / Talisman of Conviction / Talisman of Indulgence, superior to the Signets (except Arcane Signet) and an upgrade to Commander's Sphere. Fellwar Stone also isn't bad, but Chromatic Lantern has it's upside too.
Hall of the Bandit Lord can give you another haste. It enters tapped, so it's not the greatest.
A tutor package would allow you to reduce the number of ADD, taking out the lower power ones, and tutoring the higher power ones, it creates a more consistent play, but also takes away the fun of that randomness.
Staff of Nin is high cost, go Phyrexian Arena CMC3, Necropotence draw a bunch or Bloodgift Demon CMC1 cheaper and can be free cast with Kaalia of the Vast instead. Bloodgift Demon is the slowest of the bunch.
Tyrant's Familiar doesn't trigger off the turn that Kaalia of the Vast plays him, since he enters tapped an attacking. So unless you hard casting for CMC7, your not getting the benefit from him and only hits creatures, there are a variety of other dragons that hit any target. Bogardan Hellkite. Theres the new M21 dragon Terror of the Peaks, he doesn't ETB himself (boo) although, but under a Ghostway could be a win.
Angelic Skirmisher doesn't trigger properly with Kaalia of the Vast, I could see it being a finisher perhaps the next turn, but if it's really connecting for value (2+ big creatures), is it just unnecessary mass overkill vs. something like a Hellkite Tyrant which delivers immediate value as an example. I'll often Wishclaw Talisman a Hellkite Tyrant with a Kaalia of the Vast trigger on the stack and steal back my Wishclaw Talisman.
Hope you find something helpful or to think about!
3 months ago
I feel like the deck is solid, definite room for growth, but for the budget incredibly effective. There are some weaknesses, but the deck definitely can be a powerhouse.
Biggest room for improvement:
Resolve the small issues (See below)
Issues that I see:
-Few ways of protecting Kaalia
-Few ways of drawing cards
-Slightly not enough ramp, try adding 2 more
-Too high CMC on non-angel/demon/dragon cards
-Few ways of removing single targets
-Slightly too many board wipes
-Slightly too few lands, adding a few will allow you to have more keep-able hands
Cards to add: (These are some good budget substitutions for cards you have and will make the deck run smoothly, I listed the card kingdom prices in ()'s)
Talisman of Indulgence (2.3)
Fellwar Stone (3.5)
Coldsteel Heart (1.5)
Chaos Warp (1.5)
Harvester of Souls (1.3)
Bloodgift Demon (1)
Demonlord Belzenlok (.8)
Boros Charm (2.5)
Apostle's Blessing (.25)
Giver of Runes (3)
Caves of Koilos (1)
The total for cards to add should only be about $25
Cards to take out to make room:
The next big move will be to improve the landbase. 35 is the right amount for the deck, in my opinion, however it definitely could use an upgrade. Having a consistent land base allows you to easier play Kaalia on turn 3 or 4. It also helps you to consistently have the colors of mana you need, when you need them. I would add/completed the cycles in this order. These are listed from cheapest to most expensive.
Dual-color cycling lands (1) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Cycling_land
Battle lands (1) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Battle_land
Check lands (3) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Check_land
Filter lands (3) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Filter_land
Shock lands (2) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Shock_land
Fetch lands (3) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Fetch_land
7 months ago
Ob is super fun as a commander. Looking on EDHREC there's not actually a ton of other demon tribal choices.
7 months ago
You would gain life.
Because the ability isn't contingent upon Demonlord Belzenlok surviving in order to resolve, it will still resolve. Because the ability says that Belzenlok deals the damage, it checks last known information (the object as it exists--or as it last existed--on the battlefield) in order to determine if there are any special interactions such as lifelink.
In this case, Belzenlok last existed with lifelink, and therefore you would gain life from the damage.
7 months ago
I cast Demonlord Belzenlok while I control Deadly Wanderings and no other creatures. As Belzenlok is my only creature, Deadly Wanderings gives him lifelink, so his trigger which deals damage to me will also gain me that much life.
But what is someone uses instant speed removal in response to his trigger (ex. Price of Fame )? Because Belzenlok is no longer on the battlefield, I no longer meet Deadly Wanderings's requirement. So do I no longer gain life? Or do I gain life since Belzenlok's last state did have lifelink?
8 months ago
Usually you want 37-40 ~ in a commander deck (depending on avrage CMC, mana rocks and so on). Im by no means a shadowborn player, but I think 10 are to few. And you most definitive want some more demons like Rune-Scarred Demon , Archfiend of Depravity , Archfiend of Despair , Demonlord Belzenlok and Harvester of Souls to name a few. I also recomend Edgewalker to make your apostels free.
Looking forward to see your deck take form! Welcome to commander!