Past in Flames
Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The Flashback cost is equal to its mana cost.
Flashback (You may cast this cardfrom your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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Past in Flames occurrence in decks from the last year
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Past in Flames Discussion
2 weeks ago
Goblin Electromancer is good, and a wizard!
as it looks like you are running lots of wizards, Voidmage Prodigy is a good control piece for you.
also some recursion will help you a lot, my favorites are Underworld Breach , Past in Flames , Shreds of Sanity .
cheers and have fun!!!
2 weeks ago
lonesentinel Thanks for the suggestions!
Whirlpool Warrior is awesome in the deck as he allow us to wheel twice for . Being able to use Geistblast 's copy ability from the graveyard is actually great due to all the wheel effects we are running, many which requires us to discard our hand. Both cards are able to get around Krark, the Thumbless 's coin flipping ability, and we need that at crucial times with the fear that the spell may be returned to our hand due to losing a coin flip.
Jeska's Will and Birgi, God of Storytelling Flip are good! I'll throw them in and see how they perform. Not sure if I've room for Mana Geyser and Reiterate though. I don't need the Buyback ability that much cause copying spell is more of an enabler rather than a core mechanic for the deck (Wheeling and Kydele's mana ability is).
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces is a popular partner with Krark, the Thumbless . I'm trying to explore quirky and unorthodox variants which led me to Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix . I initially ran Sakashima in my 99 but took him out as I feel he's a "win more" card.
I'm in two minds about Ignite Memories vs Grapeshot . The deck doesn't have infinite combos so I'm not sure if I'm able to generate sufficient storm counts in 1 turn to kill off all 3 opponents using Grapeshot , thus my preference for Ignite Memories instead. The is not an issue as Kydele can generate heaps of so I'm only worried about the .
Thrill of Possibility and Cathartic Reunion are good card draws for red but they both require discarding cards as additional cost. This can be detrimental to us if Krark is onboard and we fail the coin flip.
I've never considered Expedite but now that you mentioned, it looks interesting as a cantrip and can give Kydele haste when I summon her. The deck badly needs colored mana so I avoid having too many lands that procudes only in the deck.
1 month ago
You're right, Mindstone is a bit borderline as a mana rock in general, but in this deck still holds its place because I very rarely need that extra colored mana, and Mindstone gives me the freedom to sac it for that extra card. Even if it's not even remotely an efficient way to draw, it's like a free option the majority of the time.
Regarding Past in Flames and the cantrip effects, that's a theme that I've always considered but never made up my mind about. I'm not saying that it's bad by any means, but I don't know if I can find the spots for those cards in the deck. Right now I feel that I've reached a good balance with the list, it reliably slows down other deck's early game and drags them into late game, where it can do its things.
As for the polymorph I've never really thought about that. It's really interesting and maybe one day I'll include that, but with a 6-mana commander and no way to make tokens, that's rough. Maybe if some big dumb red creature that triples damage gets printed in the future, I'll make some adjustments!
1 month ago
I did quite a bit of playtesting, was very happy with Flux Channeler, I'm really thinking hard on adding into my deck. With Mizzix of the Izmagnus in play, a Gamble for a Reiterate (or Electrodominance) get you 2 Experience and then I cast Electrodominance for (+ 2 Experience) gets you to 4 Experience then Reiterate for (+4 Experience). Initiating off a Desperate Ritual or something same result. So a win-con (assuming you have already Drawn/Muddle the Mixture/Spellseeker/Mystical Tutor the Electrodominance).
The lands were a little bit lean, but I think it's because your still 15 cards over, so skewing the testing a little bit.
You could cut Dualcaster Mage / Twinflame / Imperial Recruiter / Vedalken AEthermage since you have Bonus Round combos as a secondary win-con. (Primary being Reiterate + Electrodominance or Turnabout/Finisher).
Also have Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter too. Could add a Runic Repetition combo line too since you already have Mystic Retrieval so only 1 card). I like enjoy the Dualcaster Mage line though because it's only with 1 Experience and a Mizzix of the Izmagnus to copy.
After I got my Intuition from boxing day sale I put Enter the Infinite in my deck, I personally didn't like it, so I took it back out lol, but I get why it's in there! Instead I'm using these tutor win-lines with Intuition: Firemind's Foresight + Past in Flames + Mizzix's Mastery or Turnabout + Past in Flames + Mystical TutorReiterate. I almost feel like Enter the Infinite need a Show and Tell/Omniscience lol, but can't tutor that Omniscience (similar to the Aetherflux Reservoir)
Fork pretty expensive compared to the other copies, could cut that if you don't have one for budget, and too many copy spells, BUT... a Ral, Storm Conduit + any two copy spells is a win, I respect that line too!
Trim 1 of the protection boots (not Lightning Greaves) maybe, you wouldn't want to accidently ever draw 2 and like devastating if you draw all 3. Hexproof > Shroud but Attach > Equip, situational call, would use both in the appropriate situation, like in response to removal Attach is key, especially if you can stack multiple attaches like Equip, opponent responds with removal, in response Attach as a game example.
Your pretty close, couple more cuts and your there. Im still testing T6-8, I had a T4 win with your deck playtesting. I had thought of a T1 and was going to add to my primer when I got to a PC, then I forgot it lol, have to think what it was, I know we have T1 potential.
2 months ago
Decks coming together, did a play test, had an opening Gamble and Dualcaster Mage but not Twinflame to tutor! I think without a Twinflame and Riptide Laboratory which means Dockside Extortionist I wouldn’t run Dualcaster Mage, Fork would likely give you more utility.
I see you’ve decided to go with Intuition, I finally got one!! Last day of Boxing Day sale and came in stock $137 (Canadian $’s = $100 USD), and Enter the Infinite / Mizzix's Mastery / Past in Flames. What I don’t see if the Faithless Looting (if they give you Enter the Infinite) to Past in Flames and then Intuition for Faithless Looting to discard Enter the Infinite then Mizzix's Mastery. I guess you could Pull from Tomorrow for 0 if you had to with some mana ramp spells!
I got advice on discord about Thassa's Oracle the argument was that once you’ve drawn you deck it’s already a win, don’t need the fish at that point, it’s not like we are fish/consul or fish/pact, there is a blue enchantment (name escapes me) for 0 can exile your whole library that would be an argument, but that card awful prevents 1 damage or something. Anyways, the argument is, why not just Underworld Breach that way Frantic Search + Reiterate is same as Stroke of Genius. And breach is just good.
I can’t remember all the Ral, Storm Conduit interactions I would double check Commander Spellbook, my guess you have the good ones based on the list.
Not a fan of Jaya's Immolating Inferno Mizz doesn’t have the supporting creatures, could be dead in hand for long stretches and early game.
Looking good, some expensive cards in there though!
Just notified me you posted a message too, I’ll read through that in the morning.
2 months ago
So it's been testing turn 6-8 as-is, seems a bit slow, mostly because of the need to have Mizzix of the Izmagnus on board to facilitate several combos.
Also having a mana issue (I wouldn't have thought), as all the ramp e.g. Seething Song give me .
It's been suggested (Thanks to zobbe#5625 on discord) that Thassa's Oracle isn't necessary because if we mill our entire library, it's probably a win for us anyway within thinks like Past in Flames or an Underworld Breach. So I'm working on getting one to test, update coming soon. Probably needs a Wheel of Fortune to support it.
More to come as testing goes. I'll make some hard changes here pretty soon as well.
3 months ago
This is already pretty good for casual play. It's actually probably a bit better than a lot of casual decks. (Though not so powerful that you should worry about it). Making the deck legal was the important step.
With play you'll figure stuff out. The biggest thing is that you acknowledge when something is not working and actively do something about it. It will slowly become optimized.
Anyway, I would add some lands. Mathematically, you should have 36 (now at 30). I would add some cheap non-basics, I would go for:
Geier Reach Sanitarium (Synergizes with Commander and helps fix your hand) Isolated Watchtower (Synergizes with your high number of basic lands) Myriad Landscape (Ramps you) Terrain Generator (Ramps you) Command Tower (Both Colors) Temple of Epiphany (Both Colors)
I would still cut a lot more creatures and planeswalkers. In 4 player games, remember that people will only attack you as much as they feel that it is necessary. If it appears that you're doing very little, or you only intervene when necessary, people won't be attacking you. I would replace all but the creatures/planeswalkers that you feel are actually necessary and useful, rather than thinking you need them to attack/block.
Then, you will also probably want 5-10 mana rocks (artifacts that produce mana). Virtually every deck in EDH uses mana rocks, because the ones available with the card pool are generally much better than those in other formats. Good, budget examples are: Sol Ring Arcane Signet Fellwar Stone Mind Stone Thought Vessel Darksteel Ingot Skyclave Relic Prismatic Lens
And lastly, some other good budget cards are (I would recommend you pick some, not all of these):
Dispel Hidden Strings Desperate Ritual Seething Song Past in Flames Burning Inquiry Faithless Looting Mystic Remora Underworld Breach Blood Moon Time Reversal Bonus Round Molten Psyche Mana Geyser Merchant Scroll Echo of Eons Commit / Memory Gitaxian Probe Vandalblast Blasphemous Act Serum Visions Misdirection Flusterstorm Tolarian Winds Ponder Frantic Search
Also, if you ever get bored/tired of Izzet, Nekusar, the Mindrazer can be built to function very well and in a similar manner with virtually all of the cards you already have (or will have).
(Note: Some people who play EDH are very particular about playing against people with good decks. If you see people act uneasy around you because your deck is "too good", just remember that you can always try to lower the power of your deck or find other people to play with.)
3 months ago
I think this deck could be extremely potent if you made a few changes - (entirely my opinion)
Play more lands (Yes it sounds ridiculous, but I honestly think 60 lands would be optimal, I'll explain why, ESPECIALLY ones that have built-in draw such as Sea Gate Wreckage)
Play wheels (i.e. cards like Wheel of Fate, preferably ones that make people draw to 7)
Profit because you will be able to make your opponents draw/discard their entire decks. You will be drawing 7 cards each time you wheel, drawing mostly lands. Then, you will need to put down any permanent to drop all of your lands from hand to field (assuming both commanders are out). This will regain the mana you just lost, if not more, assuming the other cards you drew help net you more mana and/or cards or you have cards like Nyxbloom Ancient or Lotus Cobra out. (Or, alternatively, you can use the artifacts you're producing for more mana.) Assuming you draw another wheel, or a way to recur them as mentioned above, you can continually repeat this until everyone else loses because you keep using Mirror of Fate and Restock so you don't lose. (I also recommend Rude Awakening.)