Mass Hysteria

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Rules Q&A

Mass Hysteria

Enchantment

All creatures have haste.

Quickspell on Build a Deck with Me …

2 months ago

If I may add a few other notes to your thought process.

At this point, you are already on the track of using known combos and putting them into a Naya shell. There are many other combos that can go with this, you just need to tutor for them.

Note that haste is an important aspect to this. Zealous Conscripts is much better than Hyrax Tower Scout or Sparring Mummy for this reason, even though both have cheaper mana value. Without haste, your million tokens will just be board-wiped. You could argue for redundancy, but the truth is that tutors and recursion such as Eternal Witness and Skullwinder are much better, because they add to your strategy with more flexibility.

Most creature tutors are green non-creature spells that search for green creatures. However, you want to keep the amount of non-creature spells low, because Ghired's ability doesn't apply to them. But there are some great tutors that can help you find your pieces:

Most of these cards use ETBs. If you can give them haste - ideally with creatures - you can cast them, make use of their ETB, and directly tap them with Ghired for value. Anger comes to mind, Hellraiser Goblin is great (you won't be attacking, because you are going to tap your creatures with Ghired), Yarus, Roar of the Old Gods can be okay. As for non-creature spells, you have Mass Hysteria, Concordant Crossroads, Fervor, Rising of the Day. Though I would probably only consider Hammer of Purphoros as it can create tokens.

As for the token doublers, I'm not sure if they really fit the deck. Sure, they are staples for token strategies. But what's the point of making infinite tokens go double? Mondrak, Glory Dominus and Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation  Flip will put a bounty on your head which is not a good thing in a combo-deck. You want to stay under the radar until you can go off.
Mondrak only doubles creature tokens, so you are not making more treasures. And the other doublers like Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives etc. will not tap with Ghired. Since you also want to put in all the other Naya-staple enchantments like Smothering Tithe and Guardian Project etc., you will just fill your deck with non-creatures that don't synergize with your commander.

Some cards worth mentioning are:
- Illusionist's Bracers - Cloudstone Curio (create a creature token, return a creature with an ETB to your hand). - Helm of the Host

The_Acid_Drip on The price is life

6 months ago

Also why Mobile Garrison? Maybe Mass Hysteria instead, so rowan can tap immediately?

lhetrick13 on Ognis, the Hasty Collector

7 months ago

Spell_Slam - Thanks for the upvote and the comment/suggestions!

I had never consider Rampage of the Clans before as an offensive weapon but that has potential. This deck can generate an astonishing amount of treasure tokens in a single turn depending on the board state and that could be a finishing blow. I was considering adding in Displaced Dinosaurs for a similar effect. Mixed with Bootleggers' Stash I was thinking that could be pretty interesting!

Rhythm of the Wild is good, no doubt about it. A little more options that Fervor but no potential suicide drawbacks like Mass Hysteria. I do like Urabrask the Hidden, only drawback is the 5 CMC vs 2 or 3 for the two walls I am running. Dowsing Device  Flip I am not crazy about due to limiting its effectiveness to only a single creature. It can pump but pump is not generally what this deck needs with the amount of big dragons. Song of Totentanz is very interesting...had never thought of thought particular card. Other similar cards I considered but not that one..I will likely experiment with that!

For the mana ramp, I had considered less ramp spells for more creatures but in my experience, the only way to slow this deck down is by an early board wipe. Thus, I am willing to reduce the effectiveness of the deck with Ognis for more consistency. Ognis was more of a convenient commander that gave me access to the colors I wanted that had some synergy with the deck concept rather than being the central, pivotal piece the deck revolves around.

I had considered Xorn and Jolene, the Plunder Queen but could never find a slot for them in the deck. The abilities they provide are good but what to cut?!? Similar cards like Professional Face-Breaker and Grim Hireling not only produce treasure but also give me utility via card draw potential or removal at the expense of treasures. But you are correct, so many options!

For indirect damage, I did originally have cards like Reckless Fireweaver and Nadier's Nightblade present but again cut them to fit in other cards. I have a few copies of Mirkwood Bats and I like how it triggers on entry and leaving for both lifegain and drain...Maybe I will try to add in that for some flair!

Thank you again for taking the time to comment! Greatly appreciate the thoughts and gives me something to think about! The deck is already pretty hard to deal with and has a pretty good track record but it has been a while since I have tinkered with it :)

Azoth2099 on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

9 months ago

I feel like lhetrick13 is already aware, but I should clarify incase jameswarlord doesn't know:

Dragon Tempest triggers for every Dragon that Ancient Gold Dragon generates. For example, if you roll...let's middleground and say you rolled a 10, with AGD being the only other Dragon you control.

That would be 11 damage 10 times in a row, 110 damage to spread across your opponents. If you roll a 12 or higher all of your opponents are dead if they're at 40 life, which they probably are not! A perfect example of why wording is so, so vital in this game...If the card would have said "Whenever one OR MORE Dragons", it wouldn't be good enough to consider over even something as simple as Mass Hysteria as a Haste enabler.

Also, I agree that the Hoarding Broodlord + Saw in Half combo is probably not worth running outside of Aristocrat/Reanimator strategies for sure. Whichever strategy enables the most 1-card wincons is imho the optimal route, though. If you're trying to max out on power, anyway...

drake10nd on Myr Myr on the wall

9 months ago

Hive Tyrant, and Uncivil Unrest are both going in, probably with Concordant Crossroads and Mass Hysteria

Looking to fit in the latter two along with an Overwhelming Stampede

KongMing on Myr Myr on the wall

9 months ago

Herald of Secret Streams and Akroma's Memorial should be added to your Wincon category. I also think you need maybe 1 or 2 more ways to give your field evasion to get the win when you can.

In that vein, I think you need more ways to exploit a big field in a single turn with Haste, which also makes your dorks go faster. You have access to Red, but only a couple ways to give Urtet Haste (and both are colorless to boot). Maybe a couple from this list will help: Samut, Tyrant Smasher, Alibou, Ancient Witness, Concordant Crossroads/Mass Hysteria, Hammer of Purphoros/Rhythm of the Wild, Nahiri's Resolve, Uncivil Unrest, and Winged Hive Tyrant.

(By the way, if you want to split it up into categories on TappedOut, do like this:)

# Category 1 Name
1x Card 1 Name (XYZ)
1x Card 2 Name (XYZ)

Great start, I'll keep thinking of more potential adds (Unwinding Clock?)

Crow_Umbra on Isshin for a Fight

1 year ago

I think one easy swap that you could make that also potentially helps with the dilemma of adding in Chivalric Alliance is swapping either Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire or a basic Plains for Minas Tirith.

I've been okay so far at 35 lands. I can understand running Mass Hysteria for the mana efficiency, but giving your opponents' creatures haste runs the risk of benefiting other aggro strats, and activated tap abilities. Rising of the Day gives 17 of your 29 total creatures (including Isshin) that little additional buff.

My quick suggestions for cuts or swaps:

  • Swap either Brave the Sands or Fervent Charge for Flowering of the White Tree. Again, 17 of your 29 creatures get a couple decent buffs, and all your other creatures get a consistent +1/+1. Fervent Charge only buffs when you attack.

  • I think you can cut Revenge of Ravens for similarly stated reasons as Emberwilde Captain. Or, you could flat out swap with Marchesa's Decree if you really want to keep the effect, but still squeeze in another draw opportunity.

  • You can likely cut Vampiric Rites as you were thinking, especially if you end up adding Minas Tirith, which feels like a middle ground to Vampiric Rites & Chivalric Alliance in terms of getting the draw. Idk what land destruction is like in your meta, but Minas Tirith is also a bit more removal resistant.

  • Painful Truths can be a potential cut, or perhaps swap with Professional Face-Breaker. Face-Breaker is a combat damage trigger, but is still something you can benefit from since you want to go wide & hit face anyways.

  • More of a meta call, but you can maybe cut Vandalblast and/or Damn. I've been cutting back on board wipes in my more aggro decks in favor of more targeted removal, draw, or creatures.

  • Inquisitorial Rosette could be another cut. I've personally moved away from this card & Captain's Claws. I think they got phased out for additional creature slots. If you like it as a menace anthem, then Goblin War Drums is also an option. Ultimately up to you though.

Michigone on Isshin for a Fight

1 year ago

Okay, this deck needs a little tuning. I got so caught up in honing the knife edge that this deck can be (and believe me, when it pops, it absolutely wrecks the table) that I made it a little hard to play. I love that the deck is low to the ground, but Crow-Umbra was right. I need more lands. I think my ideal number would be 35? 36? Unknown. but I get into so many situations where I can get out a few cards, but just get stalled at playing multiple cards per turn, or just don't draw lands and get killed because of it. So, I am very open to recommendations for cuts.

Here is what I want to fit into the deck:

  • AT LEAST: 2 more lands (maybe 3?)
  • One more piece of ramp (If it also supports some other part of Isshin, then all the better)
  • One more haste enabler (cards I'm looking at for this slot include Mass Hysteria and Rising of the Day, but again, suggestions that include a haste enabler and ALSO contribute another piece to the Isshin gameplan could be ideal too)

So that is 4-5 cuts that would need to be made. And those cuts will definitely hurt, because I love each and every card that is currently in Isshin, but I want him to be able to consistently do his thing, rather than annihilate everyone only irregularly. Thanks for any feedback!

P.S. I'm also looking at maybe putting in Chivalric Alliance instead of Vampiric Rites?

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