Steel Hellkite

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Steel Hellkite

Artifact Creature — Dragon

Flying

: Steel Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn.

: Destroy each nonland permanent with converted mana cost/mana value X whose controller was dealt combat damage by Steel Hellkite this turn. Activate this ability only once each turn.

Decidares on Ur-gonomics

3 weeks ago

Hey Eldmoi, thanks for the info. There's a quite a bit I would recommend optimizing. The long story short is that most of the dragons I'd recommend are already on my budget primer that you've seen and my super budget deck list that was part of the primer but is also available here if you're interested here.

First of all, you need to make sure your deck has a decent amount of ramp to cast your awesome dragons within a reasonable amount of time. If you are on a budget then I'd recommend Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Sakura-Tribe Elder at the very least. Other options for cheap ramp are Farseek, Wild Growth, and Fertile Ground. If you want to further optimize ramp, then adding in Nature's Lore and Three Visits on top of some forest based shock lands (e.g. Stomping Ground or triomes (e.g. Ziatora's Proving Ground would be ideal.

Second, you want to optimize your mana base by minimizing the number of taplands and ensuring you have the colors you need. Any tap lands that tap for only 2 colors (e.g. guild gates) could safely be dropped for basic lands. Tri-lands like you mentioned are decent enough to start off, because they can tap for 3 colors, but even those are suboptimal in the face of options like Dragonskull Summit and Blood Crypt. Furthermore, almost 50% of your deck requires red mana, so I'd ensure your lands reflects that.

Regarding the planeswalkers you have, I'd say Sarkhan, Fireblood is the most useful (distantly followed by Sarkhan Unbroken and Kiora, Master of the Depths). I'd consider cutting the others.

Some things off the top of my head for instants and sorceries: I would consider Crucible of Fire to be a win more card. Lozhan, Dragons' Legacy is almost a strictly better Sarkhan's Unsealing. Damn and Farewell are really good board wipes that aren't as mana intensive as some you're running. Garruk's Uprising is a very potent form of card draw. Monster Manual is probably better than Thran Temporal Gateway in most cases.

Finally the dragons. There are so many good dragons to consider, many of which I've mentioned in my deck primer, and many of which are available on most dragon lists online, that I'll focus on highlighting dragons I would recommend removing:

  • Acid-Spewer Dragon - Overcosted and doesn't do much. Deathtouch isn't as useful on a dragon that should be big enough to kill most thing it hits in the first place.

  • Backdraft Hellkite - Most instant and sorceries you have are too expensive or are simply aren't as immediately useful (e.g. don't want to board wipe your own dragons). The most useful ones you run are removal, but at that point you can just play dragons that can inherently remove things like Steel Hellkite.

  • Crosis, the Purger - Hard to save mana to take advantage of its effect. It'll feel bad to take advantage of its effect in casual metas anyways. If you really want to run a dragon like this then Teneb, the Harvester might be more fitting but even then I wouldn't really recommend it, because of the mana investment needed to make it work.

  • Dragonmaster Outcast - Not a good early game play and easy to kill later on.

  • Dream Pillager - This dragon is overcosted and is mostly a means of pseudo card draw. I'd just play an actual card draw card instead like Ancient Craving or Sign in Blood or Rishkar's Expertise.

  • Kargan Dragonlord - Costs too much to do too little. We have so many dragon options, even in budget decks, that vanilla dragons simply aren't worth it.

  • Malfegor - Discarding our hand isn't good to do unless it involves redrawing more cards (e.g. Knollspine Dragon).

  • Necromaster Dragon - Summoning vanilla 2/2 zombie tokens for 2 mana isn't good value in a dragon deck, and you have to go through combat to get it off. In a world where Ancient Gold Dragon exists, it's hard to justify an effect like this. Dragon Broodmother and Lathliss, Dragon Queen and Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm would be far more effective token generators.

There's always more we could do to optimize any deck, including mine for sure, so I'd be happy to comment more later if you'd like. But I also want to emphasize that as long as you and your playgroup are having fun, you really can't go wrong :)

TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge

2 months ago

Karl the Clown

Legendary Creature - Devil Bard (uncommon)

Jest - Whenever this creature attacks and is unblocked, you may return it to your hand. If you do, add . You don't lose this mana as steps and phases end.

Sinister merriment in all the wrong ways.

3/2


Turn Steel Hellkite into a Phyrexian.

duchessCretina on Red Dragons

3 months ago

Hello, I also wanted to list some dragons (i think most of them are budget):

EyelessStarfish on Rise and Awaken

3 months ago

NV_1980 I appreciate the suggestions! I think Steel Hellkite would likely be the best removal option for the deck, as the other options feel too slow or expensive. I'll likely swap out Command the Dreadhorde for it.

NV_1980 on Rise and Awaken

3 months ago

Nice deck! I would add some more options for enchantment/artifact removal, considering that when people present you with graveyard hate, you're pretty much screwed. Maybe stuff like Steel Hellkite, Lux Cannon, Ratchet Bomb, Spine of Ish Sah?

Wuzibo on Weakest Mono Color

3 months ago

Grubbernaut

My deck didn't just have 1 line to win. I sometimes won when leyline was out and i didn't get a graveyard. It just became much harder because the whole point of playing daretti is to use his rummage ability to pitch big artifacts into your graveyard and cheat them out. I could still use it and pitch stuff i didn't need and extra lands away, but it was a loss in value.

Some of the wincons were boardwiping and then Blightsteel Colossus combat damage

Mindslaver locking.

Platinum Angel + Moltensteel Dragon + Soul Conduit Pay down to zero life then switch life totals with people. Combine with voltaic key to do it to a 2nd person, then pay down a little more and swing at the guy who doesn't have fliers with a dragon that has like 40 power.

Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame infinite dualcaster mages with haste that swing and win

Hellkite Tyrant + Mycosynth Lattice steal opponent's stuff and usually win on my next upkeep

Mycosynth Lattice+Karn, the Silver Golem blow up all their 0 mana rocks and all their lands for the low price of 1 mana a piece. Not a win con in and of itself, but basically is. Rings of Brighthearth+Basalt Monolith to make infinite colorless mana to pump Steel Hellkite infinitely and use Staff of Domination or a red X spell which i can hit someone with, and Stuffy Doll could be the target to hit them anyway even if they gave themselves hexproof.

I've seen godo. I saw it years ago too. I'll play it one day i promise lol.

KBK7101 on In Defence of Halcyon [Primer]

4 months ago

Very well thought out primer. Was really surprised to see that it was your first! The background and fonts look nice, too. Could never figure out how to get that to work properly. The deck looks great. I'm always glad to see another Rebbec/Glacian deck pop up on here. I do have a lot of recommendations and insight from the games I've played with my own Rebbec/Glacian deck.

(Side note before I get distracted - Blind Obedience has mono white color identity. The black in the reminder text does NOT count towards it's color identity.)

Cards I'd definitely recommend -

Mycosynth Lattice - Turns ALL permanents into artifacts. Perfect for Glacian. I know you said that you're mainly a budget player and that this card is in the "upgrades and future" tab, but this one shoudl definitely be near the top of that list. It's INSANELY good in this deck. Such a high price tag, though. :\ Smothering Tithe is in the same boat.

Liquimetal Torque and Liquimetal Coating - Both provide instant speed protection with Rebbec. Someone tries to cast Doom Blade on her or Glacian (or anyone else)? Tap either of these and they can become an artifact and gain Rebbec's protection.

A few more removal spells would probably be a good idea as well, it's something that my own deck struggles with as well. Dispatch is great. Dispeller's Capsule is removal and also an artifact. Duplicant and Steel Hellkite are both removal that also fill the missing 6 CMC slot in your mana curve.

There are a few tutors in that aren't super overpriced that might be worth looking into. Idyllic Tutor can help find Mechanized Production or Mirrodin Besieged. Fabricate can let you search for any artifact. Any of the artifact mage cards like Trinket Mage, Tribute Mage and Trophy Mage are also worth mentioning. They're a bit limited but they should all be relatively cheap. Another great one I've gotten a lot of use out of is Arcum Dagsson. You can sacrifice an artifact at instant speed to search up another one. Sac a myr token for Darksteel Forge? Oh yes. It also serves as protection with Rebbec as you can sac an artifact to search up one with a specific CMC (er... MV. Never gonna get used to that) that you may happen to need protection from at the time. He serves a similar role to Master Transmuter who I see in the maybeboard.

A special shout out goes to Geode Golem. With the enough artifacts and the protection that Rebbec gives, it should be pretty easy to get him to connect so you can cast Glacian for FREE!

If you wanted to go the "turn all my artifacts sideways at people" route, cards like Sakashima's Will and Masterful Replication work wonders with creatures like Filigree Attendant or Darksteel Juggernaut and Shambling Suit. On the other hand, Rise and Shine from MH2 just animates and tosses counters on things. Much simpler and can achieve the same result of smashed face! I have an Urza, Lord High Artificer deck that focuses on this exact gameplan.

Vedalken Archmage and Endless Atlas are two great card draw engines. One with the Machine is also great but you need something big on the field to really capitalize on it. I see that you have Esper Sentinel in the maybeboard and I can't for the life of me figure out why I didn't add it into my own deck. I just buylisted it a week or two ago. :(

I think that's all I have for now. I've linked my deck below. Feel free to check it out and see if any other ideas pop out at you from there. I'm excited for Kamigawa Neon Dynasty as it seems to have a pretty good artifact theme going on but I have a feeling that The Brother's War set at the end of the year is gonna be HUGE for Rebbec/Glacian!


Rebbec and Glacian - Thran Ingenuity (v1.85)

Commander / EDH KBK7101

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