Wrathful Red Dragon
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Wrathful Red Dragon

Creature — Dragon

Flying

Whenever a Dragon you control is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to any target that isn't a Dragon.

Ultigame21 on Ur-Dragon's Multiverse Onslaught | *PRIMER*

1 year ago

First of all, I love your deck choices!

But I believe that Ancient Gold Dragon would be a very good card to add even if he doesn't have haste. First of all he’s a 7/10 good blocker for the turn he comes in unlike Ancient Copper Dragon (6/5) but I understand that it’s slow if you don’t have a way to give him haste. Love Copper Dragon treasures thought <3

Imagine having Dragon Tempest /Scourge of Valkas /Terror of the Peaks out when up to 20 x blue faerie dragons enters the battlefield. The amount of damage each trigger would do.

Also very good with all attack triggers or other cool dragons you have in the deck (Dromoka, the Eternal, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Old Gnawbone, Silumgar, the Drifting Death,Utvara Hellkite, Wrathful Red Dragon, Defiant Thundermaw  Flip).

You could also potentially draw up to 20 cards if Kindred Discovery or Greater Good is on the battlefield. Puts a good number of counters on Dragon's Hoard also.

I’d love to hear your opinion on why you didn’t include him in your list with all the good synergies!

I think I would probably have to switch Balefire Dragon for Ancient Gold Dragon. Most big problematic creatures have more than 6 toughness so Balefire doesn’t get rid of them it’s only good against Tokens stacking strategies early on. I’d rather get many blockers each turn recurring and like explained you only need 1 of those 3 pieces (Dragon Tempest/Scourge of Valkas/Terror of the Peaks) to do almost the same effect as Balefire but targeting anything.

NV_1980 on Tiamat Dragon Deck

1 year ago

Some nice (budget) options:

  • Rith, Liberated Primeval: the ward bonus to all your dragons is nice AND you get a chance to create Dragon tokens with him(/her?); overall a great addition and a nice combatant to boot.
  • Thrakkus the Butcher: tremendous boost for your dragons at every attack.
  • Wrathful Red Dragon: will cause opponents to think twice before blocking (or being blocked by) your dragons.
  • Growth Spiral: nothing special but just great value for what it allows you to do, especially during initial game-phases.
  • Patriarch's Bidding: not super cheap but an excellent card to use as a wipe-recovery mechanism; especially in a tribal deck like this.

PhyrexianHellkite on 50$ Budget The Ur-Dragon

1 year ago

I have tested creatures/cards like that in the past and don't like the staying power or what they are adding to this deck. The creature versions get board-wiped the fastest and don't tend to extend the deck past extra mana available, so I prefer to start getting bigger game impact dragons out and only ramp via land ramp and some artifacts. Mainly to help with my mana fixing, draw, and one sided board-wipes. See the list of cards that those would not interact with other than Scaled Nurturer, that one gets the dragon pass but not card draw and would take up one of the 30 dragon slots. Garruk's Uprising, Elemental Bond, Frontier Siege, Wrathful Red Dragon, Silumgar, the Drifting Death, Rith, Liberated Primeval, Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Ganax, Astral Hunter, Firkraag, Cunning Instigator, Dromoka, the Eternal, Bladewing the Risen, Atarka, World Render, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Relic of Legends, Jade Orb of Dragonkind, Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind, Crux of Fate, The Ur-Dragon

So 20 cards or 1/5th of the deck that those would not extend or interact with. Here is a link for some statistics for mana reducers that basically says if you can play cards every turn and use all mana you have as well then they work the best in those types of decks.

Is it worth it to play cost reducers in MTG EDH commander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prltKyeJMKI

Form about this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/b3stji/cost_reducers_vs_ramp/

Thanks for the comments! Hope this gives some insight on my deck building/playing style and if you run those mana dorks/cost reducers, I think cards like can help and, I do run them in other decks with less colors or better card draw. I do think a commander like Tiamat would benefit from those to help play the tutored cards after cast and help commander tax to recast it and refill your hand. The main thing I consider is what am I swapping, and in this deck and it's mana fixing for a 5 color deck on a 50$ budget, or a potential dragon slot for a deck that wants dragons on the field attacking to start getting ramped up.

I will continue to update this deck and work to give better descriptions of my other decks as well as I build and update my commander arsenal!

NV_1980 on Lathliss, Queen of the Red Dragons

1 year ago

Hi RBDoucette,

Looks like a solid build to me. You've got plenty of mana sources available to keep summoning Dragons. One excellent upgrade could be an Urza's Incubator to cast all of them for 2 less (this is an expensive upgrade though). More draw resources could also do you some good. Ideas that come to mind are Endless Atlas (your deck features enough Mountains to make this worth the include). Dragon Mage can be fun too and let's not forget Bonders' Enclave either. As for other ideas, Conjurer's Closet can give you guaranteed Dragon tokens when you have Lathliss and another non-token Dragon on the battlefield. Also, a lot of fun can be had by using Cloudstone Curio to (re)summon Dragons and enjoy the benefits of returning ETB triggers like those from Demanding Dragon, Knollspine Dragon and Red Dragon. When using Curio/Closet, you also benefit greatly from Dragons that damage others upon ETB of new dragons, like Scourge of Valkas, Terror of the Peaks and Wrathful Red Dragon.

Hope this helped!

multimedia on Miirym Dragon Tribal Deck

2 years ago

Hey, well done so far for a first deck with a $500+ budget.

34 lands and only 9 reliable ramp sources is low for Dragons. The land count is fine, but only if you add more low mana cost ramp. Add more lands or add more ramp? Tempt with Discovery relies on opponents to be ramp and Thaumatic Compass  Flip relies on you controlling seven or more lands to be ramp. These aren't reliable as ramp and they cost too much mana for what you get.

In simplest terms there's two areas you want most with Miirym, ramp and Dragons. Ramp to first cast 6 mana Miirym and Dragons to cast after Miirym. Of course you want other areas too, but most important are these two. Consider expanding on ramp?

Nature's Lore, Farseek are more good two drop land ramp like Three Visits. Cursed Mirror is excellent with blink, if you blink the copied creature then that blinks Mirror which can then ETB as a copy of some other creature including an opponent's creature. You can also choose to have it just ETB as a mana rock which is needed for a combo.

Jade Orb of Dragonkind gives protection from targeted removal until your next turn for the Dragon you cast with it. This effect is helpful since paying a lot of mana to cast a Dragon to then have it killed is feels bad. Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner untap ability is versatile, any permanent you control, it's also repeatable draw when a Dragon ETB including a token.

There's 100+ of different Dragons you could play with a $500+ budget and having Old Gnawbone as a price point? Consider upgrading some Dragons?

These Dragons can be parts of wincon combos and they're made much better thanks to Miiryn copying them. All these Dragons don't break the bank and adding them can really increase the power level of your deck.

What's nice about these combos are they all use a Dragon. All the cards are good by themselves, but with the Dragon and/or Miirym they're much better. Tandem Lookout can be repeatable draw that can change creature it's bonded too. Bond to any creature you control before Miirym, then bond to Miirym and when you're ready bond to Niv-Mizzet. Bond to any Dragon who can do repeatable noncombat damage to opponents such as Scourge of Valkas for lots of draw.

Getting more value: ramp, draw or removal from Dragons can help gameplay. Steel Hellkite + Old Gnawbone/Savage Ventmaw mana can wreck especially when you have multiple Hellkites.

If you're interested I offer more advice in another comment. Would you like more advice?

Good luck with your deck.

DraconicDestruction on Jund'em Featuring the Dragons of Tarkir

2 years ago

Due to the fact that you have a lot of dragons, you could use Cryptic Gateway to get dragons down faster, Wrathful Red Dragon for protection, Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient for good ramp, and a Rivaz of the Claw for ramp & recursion

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Bold and Brash

2 years ago

I definitely second the MTGO idea if you have no nearby game stores. It's definitely not the same as playing in person, but it works. There is also Spelltable for webcam games. Anyways, onto some deck suggestions:

Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury is a really strong Rakdos dragon since it pumps your team.

I personally have removed Urza's Incubator from my dragon tribal deck. There has been a pretty significant uptick in dragon decks lately due to recent sets and the symmetrical effect has become much more of a liability. I would replace it with Herald's Horn. You still get cost reduction, but with some card advantage thrown onto it.

Speaking of card advantage, I think you could use a lot more. Atsushi, the Blazing Sky is both a dragon and card advantage. Solemn Simulacrum is both ramp and card draw. Stinging Study is 5 mana, draw 5 for you at instant speed. I always advocate for black decks to run Read the Bones. It's still one of the best card draw cards in black.

Lastly, a litte more interaction could go a long ways. Crux of Fate is a fantastic board wipe for dragon tribal, and a Bedevil and Terminate would go a long way. If you want to get really spicy, Wrathful Red Dragon + either Blasphemous Act or Star of Extinction is hilarious.

Good luck deck building! It looks like a fun build.

Housegheist on Miirym's Dragon Tempest

2 years ago

First advice: I personally find Genesis Ultimatum and Majestic Genesis either too high in cmc or too clunky in pips.

Rhythm of the Wild does only give your nontokens haste. If you‘re using it for the counter-protection it‘s okay if it fits your meta.

I would highly recommend mass removal… Cyclonic Rift, Chain Reaction and Blasphemous Act are great (the last two act as win condition with Wrathful Red Dragon.

Monster Manual can cheat some dragons into play in instant speed.

I‘m nit a big fan of Firkraag in a Miirym list. I personally would swap it for Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient. 7 CMC 4/4 doesn‘t look like much but the mana he produces is enormous!

Maybe you find room for a protective mana-rock with Jade Orb of Dragonkind. A very flavourful decision in a dragon deck.

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