Venser, Shaper Savant
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could cast an instant.)
When Venser, Shaper Savant enters the battlefield, return target spell or permanent to its owner's hand.
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|Want (5)||Baconpiestudioz , PagHimself , Lovet0209 , sylain , samuel_of_the_coast|
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Venser, Shaper Savant Discussion
4 days ago
Alright. Allow me to break this down.
Due to my inexperience with Mutate shenanigans, I shall focus more upon the ards I find generally lacking.
Now, as often as I read the terms of service, a lot of text does not necessarily mean a lot of synergy. The commander format espouses synergistic decks as opposed to ones fraught with individual card power. I thusly advocate for this card's removal.
Unless you are initiating combos with Brash Taunter, 'tis not a very good card. In a regular circumstance, it is around five damage for eight mana, which it severally lacking. The indestructibility is nice, but the majority of the format's removal is in the form of exile or bounce. I would kill it.
Some of these cards were designed for Ikoria limited, but not for outside of that format. What I would recommend excluding are Everquill Phoenix, Glowstone Recluse, Pouncing Shoreshark, and Dreamtail Heron. They are okay but below average.
Lastly, Blackblade Reforged is a strong card, but I would focus more on the value part of your plan as averse to the big creature plan. Illuna's mutate trigger accelerates your board state, thus making a single large idiot makes the plan susceptible to a single kill spell.
I have tried Soothsaying myself, yet had found the card to be far too much mana to be effective. There is not much to say. It cannot put cards to the bottom, nor can it permit much filtering with little mana spent.
Everquill Phoenix is a fine card, but I would rather have an additional engine piece as averse to a 4/4 flyer.
That shall be all from me, but I may offer additional insights as other edits are made to this list.
Farewell, and may all of fortune have you.
1 month ago
Tomorrow is so neat. Possessed Portal is strong with him (you'll get cards thanks to Tom's replacement effect while your opps won't) though it'd definitely draw hate haha.
You might consider these too: Uba Mask (similar to Possessed Portal; only poops on opps while Tom is out), Shared Fate, Zur's Weirding, Temple Bell, Geth's Grimoire, Jace's Archivist, Windfall, Teferi's Ageless Insight, Alhammarret's Archive, Thought Reflection, Worn Powerstone (gets Tom out on turn 4), Coalition Relic, Venser, Shaper Savant
1 month ago
I would recommend maybe some of these creatures:
Brood Monitor, Caligo Skin-Witch, Duplicant, Entomber Exarch, Gilded Drake, Palinchron, Phyrexian Ingester, Rune-Scarred Demon, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Solemn Simulacrum, Terastodon, Thought-Knot Seer, Vendilion Clique, Venser, Shaper Savant,
As well as these cards that can help abuse ETB affects:
Deadeye Navigator, Followed Footsteps, Mirror Mockery, Rite of Replication, Strionic Resonator, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling,
If you want more suggestions, feel free to look at my deck:
Commander / EDH
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1 month ago
2 months ago
Ok, that clears up the pond much more, thank you.
In that case, some strictly good copy/clone targets include:
- Biovisionary: Simply giggily. No explanation necessary.
- Sphinx Ambassador: Being able to straight up steal creatures from your opponents' libraries for guessing a random creature is fun!
- Woodland Bellower & Fierce Empath: They grab each other, and can grab other creatures! Great for a more "toolbox" utility to your deck!
- Temur Sabertooth & Kogla, the Titan Ape: Stuck with a clone that is just not good enough? Well, these two beasties can reset those etb's!
- Deadeye Navigator & Peregrine Drake: Yes, of course, they combo. yay. However separately, they can be quite useful. Being able to reset Clone targets is always useful to have in the pocket. With the P Drake, you can net mana depending on the clone being used!
- Tishana, Voice of Thunder: She isn't the most mana effective way of drawing cards per se, but the value you can get off of her ETB is just bonkers.
- Frilled Mystic, Mystic Snake, & Venser, Shaper Savant: Beyond being just some nice control on a creature body, Venser can get around those sticky "Cannot be countered" spells!
- Bane of Progress & Reclamation Sage: Simply lovely Enchantment and artifact removal!
- Meteor Golem: need to blow up anything? Golem boi can handle that. (Insert Staples button here)
Let me know if any of these help at all!
3 months ago
Venser, Shaper Savant is a very powerful card with Yarok out. It's a repeatable control spell since it can bounce itself, too. It's an answer to most everything except for hexproof.
4 months ago
I like the decks theme of tokens and the life gain sub-theme. In terms of protection and removal, I would point you to my own Brago deck.
He is more of a control deck (or at least, tries to be) until I can get my little engines online to go for the combo win.
Venser, Shaper Savant, Man-o'-War and Exclusion Mage and some neat creatures that work like the Reflector Mage that you already run. Venser can also be used to bounce any other permanent, which includes lands, if you want to be that guy!
Venser is also a beautiful addition, as it can also put spells back into players hands when it enters. This allows you to stop the uncounterable spells, along with Narset's Reversal.
I hope there are some cards in my list that you may consider adding to your own for more protection. You have a couple in your list that I will be considering for mine. +1 for another fellow Brago player!!
4 months ago
Oh wow, that's a lot of suggestions. Thanks king-saproling!
Lunar Force is an interesting idea that definitely synergizes well with Venser. However to use it properly, you'd be required to use a lot of mana (3 mana on the Force, while saving up another 4 for Venser). Though I think if the ability was a may-ability, it would totally be worth it.
Speaking of "mays," would the same trick work with Perplexing Chimera? I'm not familiar with the fine-print of the interaction, but I believe you could return Chimera to your hand as its ability triggers, and basically steal their spell with no downside (besides paying a total of 9 mana for the exchange)? If that would work, that would be pretty nifty indeed.
Okay, so the Ghostly Flicker/Displace cards are for the combos with stuff like Naru Meha, Master Wizard? Interesting. I haven't thought of that. Does this kind of fall in with your Sigil Tracer suggestion?
I've been keeping Equilibrium in the back of my mind for quite some time now. On paper it's a really good card, but I've found that most of the time, I'd rather be playing something else, and it becomes a dead card in my hand. It does synergize really well with Venser, but it's also pretty mana intensive.
Cloudstone Curio. Now that is a suggestion! I'm still not entirely sure about all of the implications of this card, but right away, I can see that it can potentially make Venser bounce one extra thing every time he hits the board. I suppose that it also makes it easier to bounce Venser back to your hand with another creature if you don't have one of the Gourmet Bagels out. It also allows you to infinitely bounce a Great Whale with a Peregrine Drake (or a Glasspool Mimic Flip/Clever Impersonator/Spark Double/Phyrexian Metamorph for that matter). A definite include.