Up the Beanstalk
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Pre-release Legal
Standard Legal
Standard Brawl Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Up the Beanstalk

Enchantment

When Up the Beanstalk enters the battlefield and whenever you cast a spell with converted mana cost/mana value 5 or greater, draw a card.

TwinMoon on Enduring-Floodcaller COMBO

3 weeks ago

Cool deck dude! I have a similar one that I really love to play, but I never saw the Auroral procession combo. Mine is actually based on another cool combo with Valley Floodcaller and Enduring Vitality you could add and guess what? It's already in your colors!!!

This Town Ain't Big Enough + Stormchaser's Talent

With Floodcaller+Vitality in play: Bounce ST with TTABE (Floodcaller triggers) > Play ST (Floodcaller triggers) > Level it to grab TTABE > repeat. This also gives you infinite prowess otters. I'd suggest adding 4 each of these and cutting Sunshower Druid, Pond Prophet, Into the Floodmaw, and Aetherize.

I'd also consider:

  • 3/4xAnalyze the Pollen for land find and also tutors for creature combo pieces
  • 2xUp the Beanstalk TTABE procs this so you can get infinite draw. Or if you don't have the combo you can bounce this with TTABE and replay it for draw.
  • 4x Thundertrap Trainer gives you more otters and also lets you dig for spell combo pieces

If you want to splash red:

  • Stormsplitter can go infinite at haste speed
  • Song of Totentanz works nicely if you have some extra creatures to make infinite mana. You can bounce your processions back and forth and when you are done, use the last to grab Totentanz to swing with a bajillion hasted Rats as well as hasting any prowess otters you may have made.

kamarupa on Uren8

2 months ago

Oh boy. I have... uh... a lot of thoughts.

I'm going to start with ramp and mana base. I've been commenting something along these lines on a lot of decks lately. Ramp isn't much of a ramp if you're missing land drops regularly. Getting to, say 3 available mana on t2 is nice, but if you don't hit a land drop or dork on the next 3 turns, the ramp didn't really help. I'm generally not a fan of spells like Arboreal Grazer and even less a fan when there aren't a substantial number of lands in a deck to start with. At a mere 20 lands, you're going to be have to be very lucky to get both Arboreal Grazer AND 2+ lands in an opening hand. And even if you do, the likelihood of you continuing to draw lands just isn't very high. Basically, any effect that lets you "play an additional land" is just way too conditional to be consistent in my view, and therefore, I prefer to run with dorks and enchantments and rarely, rocks. You do have an enchantment that tutors you 2 lands, but at a pretty steep 4MV, I think it's going to function as much as a 'thinner' as it will a ramp spell. I do see some redundancy there with Prime Time, so I could see it be a useful spell. I should state that Prime Time isn't a creature I have much experience with, so I don't know much about what other spells synergize with it best, but I have a gut feeling that what you've brewed could have better synergy with it. It seems like it might be getting included because it's a well known and feared threat more than being a perfect fit. You also have Flare of Cultivation, which seems like your 3rd best ramp spell after your two dorks. While I like that you can cheat it into play, I don't like the required sac cost to do so as the only really good target is the Arboreal Grazer and that's just too conditional to be consistent. It's not a spell I have lot of experience with, and while I'm not a big deck thinner, I can't deny it has a lot of powerful potential. But I want more good targets for it, preferably ones that actually WANT to be sacrificed. The best part of your ramp is that you have 8 1MV dorks. Given your EXTREMELY high average MV of 4.35, I think 8-10 is probably the right number. To sum up, I would cut Arboreal Grazer and possibly reconsider both Prime Time and Encroaching Dragonstorm, either leaning into Prime Times most classically defined deck elements or cutting it. I'd try to find another 1MV creature for your Flare of Cultivation to target (6-8x 1MV non-dorks that want to be sacced) or I'd look for some other ramp choices. I'd also consider adding in something like Fertile Ground, or maybe Utopia Sprawl, as you do already have a good number of lands with the basic Forest type. If you do go for the Sprawl, then perhaps Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth might be a smart add. Finally, I'd like to see this deck reach for at least 22 lands if not 24. You've just got a hell of a lot of very high MV spells and these days I strive for 22 lands as my minimum. It's just more consistent.

Next, I want to follow up on some of what Balaam__ brought up - disruption. Disruption doesn't do much good in a sidebaord. It needs to be mainboarded or else your deck will not only end up unbalanced when sideboarding, but you'll also be tempted not to sideboard as much as you struggle to choose what spells to swap out of the mainboard. I believe almost all decks need at least 4x disruption spells in the mainboard, with 8 being best. Disruption comes in a lot of forms - counterspell is great, but I don't like tieing up mana playing the waiting game. Removal is classic for reason. Usually half of 8 disruption spells are a form a removal. Sideboards offer us different methods of removal so you can get past all the defenses opponents might use to prevent that removal. That makes sideboarding a lot easier to pull off, swapping removal for removal. I really like protection spells Heroic Intervention - while defensively, it can function like a counterspell, offensively it can do things counterspell can't. It largely comes down to preference, but disruption beyond removal is almost always essential. Of course, there's also discard, which is a solid choice, too, though I don't prefer it because it misses cards drawn after it's cast and so isn't as foolproof as a pre-emptive defensive play. I also like squeezing in 1x Fog spell when I can. I love the comedic flavor of it, but again, that's just my preference/sense of humor. Assuming you cut Arboreal Grazer, Flare of Cultivation, and at least a few copies of Encroaching Dragon Storm, even after adding 2x land, you should have room for at least 4x disruption spells in your mainboard. Incidentally, all these changes should also help bring down your average MV, which will make the deck not only faster, but more resilient as it will be able to respond to opponents.

One thing I do think you have right here is the number of creatures. But I'd like to see tighter choices that play off each other a bit more. I get that Prime Time and Flare of Cultivation support Ureni, the Song Unending, but at 3 copies and Legendary status, I'd want to solely focus on that creature or abandon that whole strategy - it's all or nothing with spells like that - run 4x of Ureni to maximize its odds it comes up when Breaching Dragonstorm when that hits. Maybe even look for spells that let you tutor it to the top of your library - Scheming Symmetry comes to mind, though I don't think that's exactly the right spell for this brew. Brainstorm might be a good option - not really a path to card advantage, but it would be useful in setting up Breaching Dragonstorm.

To return to Balaam__'s feedback, I also agree with him that Breaching Dragonstorm, especially at 5MV is too easy a target for opponents to thwart. I do think you've got enough ramp to hardcast some of your threats at least some of the time, but adding in a secondary (or even primary?) cheat-in spell would almost certainly make the deck more consistent. Elvish Piper, for example might be just as fast or even more consistent, though it wouldn't help with your big sorcery spells. Although I think this would be a significant departure from your current brew, Maelstrom Archangel would be a nearly identical backup to Breaching Dragonstorm. I'd probably go for 6-8 total "cheat-in" spells.

Overall, I feel like this deck isn't quite focused enough. It's not clear what it really wants to accomplish and doesn't seem completely committed to any one goal. At the same time, it also seems a little over-gunned - I sometimes say, "you don't need to bring a tank to a water-pistol fight to get a win" - when it comes to successful brewing, it's not the biggest threat that wins, it's the fastest fully effective one. So my broadstroke advice is to try to narrow the deck down to the core you really want to win with and try to support that core as much as you can.

I do love me some card advantage and I can see how Up the Beanstalk could have been useful here. As alternatives, you might consider Garruk's Uprising, Tribute to the World Tree, or even just plain old Harmonize

Sometimes I find I'll start a brew like this and realize I might have tried to squeeze 2 or more decks into one. It might be useful to fork this once or twice and explore different aspects in each fork. Make one with a lot more disruption mainboard, one with different ramp spells, one that really focuses on Prime Time, etc etc.

I hope some of this is helpful. I'm just spitballing off the top of my head. Don't take it as me being too critical. I'm really just throwing out the first thoughts that came to mind and I'm very likely to have missed nuances, etc.

Andramalech on Uren8

2 months ago

Balaam__ I appreciate the concern! Up the Beanstalk being banned put a stake in this type of concepts heart, because see.. I think drawing enough cards would push out the value. However- you're completely right. I have sideboard tech for removal, but the removal could stand to be better. I'm thinking Dismember, as it is my favorite piece of spot removal in Modern. Considering x3 for x3 and replace x1 of each of my free-counterspells in the sideboard. I hope that proves worthy for your thoughts, I happen to think a lot of your competitive analysis. Please don't forget to upvote! Y'boi is aiming for #2, if not #1 on the site.

Andramalech on I Have A Dragon

2 months ago

In my best Kaiba impression- you're a third rate duelist using a FOURTH rate deck! it's not bad, I'm just joking. I like what you have here! If you want to push into bracket 4 territory I recommend the following:

.. all of these to get your draws and hand in a row. I see you've already taken up Three Visits so just increase your count of all those spells like Thirsting Roots and even Farseek to capitalize on that ramp capability. The newly released Temur Devotee is a nice committed mana-fixer.

Otherwise, consider lower cost removal spells such as Pongify and Rapid Hybridization, even Swan Song and Strix Serenade. The most efficient way to break into the higher bracket is to do things at their most efficient capability. In this case, you'll have tons of high cost dragons. Right? So use a formula. turn 1 dork, turn 2 ramp, etc., etc. whatever works for your playstyle. Just have one in mind!

The biggest issue your deck has is that you have next to NO one drop spells. Minion of the Mighty exists and so does Elvish Mystic, and Llanowar Elves. You absolutely need to make use of your first turn beyond just putting down a land and passing.

And if you are intent on holding up that one mana on your first and doing a land down, go - you HAVE to increase the number of instants you leave yourself access to. 6 simply is nowhere near enough. Arguably, more than 2 per hand is preferred. Stuff like Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are so popular and effective because they can be used on that first turn. I mean, you might be a card down for it.. but it'd be better than sitting on your hands for the first turn.

I would recommend using that newly printed red dork that was at 2 mana, because I like your 2 mana package in green colors. The hard issue after wards is probably how much has to happen at 3 mana rather than happening at one mana. Consider stuff like Burgeoning, Exploration.

All of this to say I hope your deck building process is easier with the feedback, please feel free to reach out if you have questions- I happen to really like what you've acquired here and want to see you succeed. Good luck, and +1!

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

6 months ago

OUT
Memory Lapse
Bazaar Trademage
Nekrataal
Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Sinkhole
Cathartic Reunion
Thrashing Brontodon
Veil of Summer
Harmonize
Coiling Oracle
Burning-Tree Emissary
Sorcerous Spyglass

IN
Ninja of the Deep Hours
Brainsurge
Changeling Outcast
Valgavoth, Terror Eater
Buried Alive
Seasoned Pyromancer
Loot, Exuberant Explorer
Elvish Reclaimer
Up the Beanstalk
Nadu, Winged Wisdom
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Yggdrasil, Rebirth Engine

Mortlocke on The Predator of Predators

8 months ago

8-16-08-decimus,

I would include Up the Beanstalk, but it only triggers off of 17 cards in the deck (including my commander). Sure, once I go infinite and get infinite cast triggers it would end the game, but there are better options in what's already included namely - Elemental Bond and Garruk's Uprising. Would you cut Elemental Bond for Guardian Project?

KongMing on Imoti Cascade V3

9 months ago

Thanks for calling on me! I'll give you a little pile of recommendations here, take in mind your pod, budget, and playstyle as you consider these.

On finishing out the game at Haste speed, Concordant Crossroads is a reliable way to do that in Green. The downside is you might Cascade into it and give your opponents Haste and make it targetable before you've reached critical mass. Crashing Drawbridge is a more one-sided creature version of this - nice Haste enabler but has some definite downsides, it's very vulnerable to removal being an Artifact Creature, and it has summoning sickness itself.

Brinelin, the Moon Kraken could be useful for removing problematic blockers or combo pieces, to clear the way for you to get more damage in sooner. Repeatible removal like this can also be very demoralizing for opponents.

Also, this deck might have a use for the spell Time Stop, to end a problematic opponent's turn on their upkeep while ramping or generating a body that you can swing with on your next turn. Pretty good deal.

Have you thought about adding Krosan Drover for ramp? It would reduce the value of ~14 cards. There's also Thryx, the Sudden Storm. Might even want to consider Zendikar Resurgent for ramp and card replacement. Thunderous Snapper and Up the Beanstalk also give great card replacement, especially if you Cascade into a MC>4 spell.

Thunderfoot Baloth will allow you to finish out the game faster with its Trample and +2/+2 anthem effects. Craterhoof Behemoth is another example of this. In this deck, Shark Typhoon will generate big evasive bodies that can rack up damage fast.

Once you get some Cascade online, the card Selective Memory could be used to thin your deck of the nonland cards you don't need, so your Cascades are always hitting big stuff (or whatever you need in that game at that moment.)

A huge gas piece you are missing here is Scroll Rack. You can use this card to literally stack your deck with the cards you want to Cascade into, in order. So if you're going to cast an 8-drop from hand, use Scroll Rack to put your 7- and 6-drops down in that order, get two free and predictable casts.

Speaking of explosive Cascades, have you considered Jadzi, Oracle of Arcavios  Flip? She and Imoti could have some pretty devastating chains. If you ignore all my other suggestions and add only one card, make it Scroll Rack - if you add a second, make it Jadzi.

DreadKhan on Rocks Dragon Deck

1 year ago

I'm not sure if it's too 'non-Dragon', but I've had good results fiddling with Orcish Lumberjack, especially in a deck with Mwonvuli Acid-Moss, Lumberjack and Acid-Moss gives you access to a true Sinkhole effect (you can even play it on turn 2), and it can technically find a non-Basic Forest fwiw. Technically you only need to tap the Forest and sac it to Lumberjack to play an Acid-Moss, but Lumberjack can also give you a turn 2 Dragon that costs 5 mana, does your meta feature a lot of cheap kill spells? If not I wonder if that'd be worth your while? I don't know for sure if Atarka had Orcish servants, but Orcs live on that plane, so the lumberjack has a tangential connection.

Also, since it's gone down a ton in price, what about Utopia Sprawl? It makes your Forests better, and you can't cast it without a Forest I understand?

Since you're actually in Gruul, I would just run Mountain Valley over Evolving Wilds, this can find a Dual, or if you're desperate it can still dig out a Basic (that you can use the same turn Evolving Wilds would allow you), the only issue is if decks play cards that blow up non-Basics in your meta (most don't).

It's not entirely budget, but Up the Beanstalk is a very strong card if you actually plan to cast those big Dragons, and it replaces itself.

I'm not sure what your meta is like, but if people run Stax stuff that can ruin your day, you can include Dire-Strain Rampage, this sorcery offers you a Harrow effect if you wish, but it can Naturalize something, or Ghost Quarter someone's important land in a pinch. The best part is that it has Flashback. It's not the fastest effect, but I feel like it's certainly good enough for sideboard (especially on a budget), and since it can also just ramp you it might be fine mainboard, ymmv.

It's an ETB tapped land, but Treetop Village is a reasonable attacker if you end up desperate, with your curve it seems plausible that you'd be able to play an ETB tapped land, maybe x2?

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