Barren Moor

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Premodern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Barren Moor

Land

Barren Moor enters the battlefield tapped.

: Gain .

Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)

jaymc1130 on How does Library of Leng …

2 months ago

Library of Leng is indeed a wonky card, but it's a pretty nifty combo piece within certain types of discard concept strategies.

When it comes to Madness, what you essentially have is two replacement effects modifying the same instance of the card being discarded, so you have a choice of which you want to apply. You can either discard the card into exile, or you may discard it to the top of your library. If you discard it into exile, then Library of Leng will no longer see an effect to replace and you then have the choice of casting the card for it's Madness cost or putting it into your graveyard. If you discard it to the top of your library then the Madness ability will no longer see an effect to replace, the card will not be in exile, and you will not be able to cast it for it's Madness cost. In practical terms, Madness and Library will not combo together to produce a cool line of play. In real world terms, Anje decks might not mind, they might be very happy to discard the card to the top of the library and repeatedly draw and discard it using Anje's ability. With a card like Glint-Horn Buccaneer in play, for example, this would kill opponents.

A mechanic with better synergy with Library of Leng is Cycling. Cycling cards discard themselves first, then draw a card. This can be used to cycle the same card over and over again, and a similar situation as to the aforementioned Buccaneer line of play can occur with a card like Drannith Stinger in play killing opponents as a result of this process. A combo such as Library of Leng + Tectonic Reformation + Surly Badgersaur + Drannith Stinger + any land would form a self sustaining loop to kill opponents, for example.

Additionally, some Cycling cards have triggered effects when they cycle, and Library of Leng can allow a pilot to loop those effects. Gilded Lotus + Library of Leng + Vizier of Tumbling Sands would produce infinite mana, for example. Add in something like a Lightning Rift and this could become lethal. Bone Miser + Library of Leng + Barren Moor is another infinite mana combo, though it only produces black mana. Add in a Gempalm Polluter, however, and this set up would also become lethal.

Henchman31 on Notorious B: Ready to Die [Remastered]

2 months ago

Gattison: Thanks again for the tips on updating the decks. To celebrate getting out of quarantine, last night I took this deck to my LGS to test it out with the other Pauper players. I made some minor changes beforehand:

Lands: +2 Mortuary Mire, +2 Barren Moor Instants: +4 Deadly Dispute

Sideboard: 2 Nihil Spellbomb, 2 Sylvok Lifestaff, 3 Tragic Slip, 4 Dash Hopes, 2 Feed the Swarm, 2 Shrivel

We're normally a small group but that night we were only 4: myself, another Pauper regular, and two others who are very active in the competitive Modern league. We settled into 3 rounds and... oof: 5 losses, 1 win, and one undecided due to overtime. Here's how it went down:

Round 1: vs. BG Dredge/ Tortured Existence 0-2-0 Not a good matchup at all, I'm afraid. Spore Frog made the combat step irrelevant, Thoughtpicker Witch kept me drawing lands and exiling my answers, and saccing his chump blockers to the deck's namesake kept me from activating any beneficial death triggers. All my card-draw got shuffled to the bottom in both rounds and there wasn't much I could do until he got a couple Gurmag Angler out to end my misery. On a side note: I hate playing against Dredge almost as much as Blink or Tron--all of which are beloved in this local meta. Maybe it's just ze Germans -_-. I'm always on the lookout for answers against these.

Round 2: vs. UB Looting/Control 0-2-0 Things were looking hopeful while I was developing my board and he was just casting different versions of Preordain for the first few turns. His main beater turned out to be Shipwreck Sifters, which got uncomfortably swole thanks to repeatable looting. Dross Golem was a star in this round and almost killed him in the first match. However after sideboarding, his removal became much more aggressive and I wasn't even left with blockers. Missing answers and sigh card draw, he took it home with some beefy spirits.

Round 3: vs. Temur Cascade or Gruul Walls + Mulldrifter -_-' 1-1-1 This was a weird one: aggressively defending and ramping with Tinder Wall, Overgrown Battlement, and Tuktuk Rubblefort until he could cascade into Boarding Party and other beaters. By turn 3 he had at least 6 walls out, each with at least 3 toughness that brushed off anything I could turn sideways. We were both surprised when my card draw engine started working in match 2 and I could slap out my own beaters with multiple rituals and disputes in a single turn. While he was missing his and Winding Way, I managed a Soulcage Fiend and Mortis Dogs by turn 2. After taking the 5-life hit from Dash Hopes twice, I had him on turn 5; clinching it with Howl from Beyond. Although the last round was undecided and he was prepared to kill me with hasty Pirates again, I was still pleased to pull off the primary wincon at least once.

Overall thoughts: This was my first outing with the deck so I still need to play it more to see the clear differences between the inherent weaknesses and my own misplays. I like aggressive decks and when this got going, I was down to clown. All-stars of the night were Mortis Dogs, Dross Golem, and especially Deadly Dispute. So much value. Add a dash or two of Dark Ritual and Sign in Blood in a single turn? chef's kiss That being said, I still think some adjustments are in order: First, that Mortuary Mire got to go. It slowed down the deployment of creatures and messed with my draws. Silly me. Unearth is much better recursion hands down. Second, sadly the goblins and newts must make room for another 1 or 2 Festering Mummy and a full set of Shambling Ghast. The latter does the same thing as the others but gives the option to ramp--which is especially relevant in my meta where creature decks are scarce. Third, better quicker removal? I left out Innocent Blood this time but either that or the asymmetrical Geth's Verdict could work. Fourth, mass removal or damage-dealing ala Crypt Rats or Pestilence? Sure, it would kill our forces but isn't that the point?

After looking at some other Suicide Black lists, I've seen what makes this deck unique and I'm still interested in making it work. I like the focus on death triggers and I'd love to find more ways to exploit them. Other creature-based lists use beaters like Guul Draz Vampire, Dauthi Slayer, and Carnophage to drop that life total to the floor. Pumping beaters like these and/or giving them lifelink seems appealing, but I'd like to stay true to the spirit of this deck as much as I can.

Sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to get this all out now while it was still fresh. I hope this proves interesting to you or any others looking to try this deck out.

Jack32226 on Rot and Ruin (Muldrotha EDH)

3 months ago

Thanks for commenting, Lord_of_Cardboard!

This deck would do exceptionally well against a Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger deck. This is for the same reason that cards like Jace's Archivist do so well in the deck: if you have have Muldrotha on the battlefield, any cards you discard might as well still be in your hand cause you can simply replay them from your graveyard. If anything, an opposing Kroxa player is almost helping you by disrupting your other opponents' hands.

As for a budget version of the deck, here's some advice on budget options and replacements. Just note that this is advice specific to my Muldrotha deck, i.e., advice for the big mana and big X-spell strategy. If you'd rather play a more typical creature-based, swing-to-kill type deck, there may be better Muldrotha lists to look at.

The mana base makes up a large portion of the deck's budget, and I would leave that mostly up to your own discretion. Just keep in mind that fetch lands like Evolving Wilds and slow fetches like Bad River are good for being replayed every turn with Muldrotha. Also, for a budget version of the deck, it's important to run more basics than I do since you'll probably need to fetch more with your ramp. Cycle lands like Lonely Sandbar, Tranquil Thicket, and Barren Moor are fantastic, especially with Life from the Loam. Some other good options:

Which brings me to another point: if I had to pick one somewhat expensive card that's worth putting in a budget Muldrotha deck, it's this one. It's a one-card value engine, giving you card draw, mill, and lands. And depending on what utility lands you choose to run, it can do a whole lot more. And if you're worried about Kroxa in your meta, Life from the Loam is a great counter to it, allowing you to fill your hand with lands to discard.

Now to address key cards for the deck's "big mana" strategy. Important cards for generating a lot of mana include Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Crypt Ghast, and Nyxbloom Ancient. You could just replace these cards with normal ramp; casting X-spells for X=10 is still good and easy to accomplish without these cards. If that's unsatisfying for you, you could consider options like Zendikar Resurgent and Mana Reflection. Unfortunately there aren't many great cheap options for producing a lot of mana. This is an important part of the deck though, so it's up to you if it's worth spending some extra money on it.

To avoid this comment being any more lengthy than it already is, here's an extensive list of some budget alternatives for the deck. The great thing about Muldrotha is that being able to replay removal makes a lot of sub-par removal actually pretty good, so it's pretty budget friendly.

Win-Conditions: What's in the deck isn't too expensive, but here's some cheaper options.

Removal:

Draw / Mill:

Tutors:

Ramp:

Control and other good stuff:

If you have any other questions about budget options, let me know. I'm always happy to help!

Ammonzy on SlimeFromTheLoam [Modern Heartless Gitrog]

4 months ago

nbarry223

My first attempt to make a Gitrog deck utilized Primeval Titan and some to abuse Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle but felt too clunky. Turning everything into mountains was way too dependent on having Dryad of the Ilysian Grove down so I feel more comfortable going hard on the Dread Presence+swamp synergy. Valakut Exploration actually looks very strong in this deck & would be my biggest motivator to splash if I did. I would feel fine replacing VE for Slogurk, the Overslime for my 3cmc slot but doesnt offer us any good T1 plays in replacement of Otherworldly Gaze. Also as I playtest more & more, I find Otherworldly Gaze to surprisingly good.

I'm probably going to replace Barren Moor with a Lotus Field as LF does serve as a great way to sac lands.

whono-scribble on Black Bulk Deck

7 months ago

Thank you AmoeboidChangeling!

That’s totally on me for missing that Cranial Plating is banned. I was able to find 3 Barren Moor in my bulk collection, and have swapped them in.

As for the other two cards you’ve suggested, I don’t have either of those but I’ll definitely keep them under consideration.

For swapping out Cranial Plating I’m thinking of reworking the Artifacts in the deck (perhaps more of them?).

For now I’ll replace it with Bladed Bracers, though I think the following could be interesting to try and incorporate: - Sylvok Lifestaff - Vanguard's Shield - Spidersilk Net

AmoeboidChangeling on Black Bulk Deck

7 months ago

I think it's a nice deck, not sure what chance it would have against meta decks, but it's creative and definietly worth a few tries.

Some card draw wouldn't hurt, I'd replace a few Swamps with Barren Moor. There are other instants too that give deathtouch and Bladebrand also draws you a card. A creature I'd definitely check out is Bone Picker.

Cranial Plating is actually banned in Pauper. Always a good idea to check out the banlist before playing a new deck.

lagotripha on Vestige Colossus combo?

7 months ago

The bounceland triggers go on the stack to resolve after colossus' entire ability has finished, so you can't combo with just a bounceland IIRC. This means you'll need to set up, then get the big dude.

Abundance guarantees the combo because the replacement effect replaces the draw in the effect. Similar 'draw two instead' enchantments in blue exist, and should improve reliability.

The flip spell lands let you bring land count up while offering a lot of utility.

Surgical Extraction lets you strip cards from the deck while being useful sideboard.

Barren Moor's cycling has relevance in combo setup.

Landfall triggers like Valakut Exploration or Embodiment of Fury offer an alternative wincon- even the very tame landfall triggers get big here.

Treasure Hunt lists of various flavour have options for this kind of thing, and treasure hunt itself is a powerful turn. Zombie hunt is mostly a meme, but people have built tech for it that can be tuned for this kind of play.

Balaam__ on 101% Mono Black Burn

9 months ago

Thanks Saccox. I’m still in the process of updating this deck (it was one of my earliest I posted to this site, and was in rough shape), so I’m taking any and all suggestions. I think the idea behind Barren Moor and Cryptic Caves is to utilize them for their draw power, and I’d have to say Yes the deck needs some of that. But I’d lean toward adding in Sign in Blood over the lands since it’s a bit more effective for us, or can burn the opponent in a 2-points-to-go scenario.

I like the idea of Sanctum of Stone Fangs but I get the feeling I’d need to rebuild most of the deck to get the maximum value from the card. I think I’ll pass on that one, but I can envision a deck it would do quite well in.

Oh, and I’ll be sure to replace Bile Urchin with the scorpion. Thank you for your input, as always!

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