Cinderclasm

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Standard Brawl Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Cinderclasm

Instant

Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)

Cinderclasm deals 1 damage to each creature. If it was kicked, it deals 2 damage to each creature instead.

blong217 on Naya Zookeepers (1st place RCQ)

11 months ago

Icbrgr thanks. I hadn't considered Ratchet bomb and that may actually be a good choice over something like anger of the gods. I also ran into one while searching that caught my eye, Cinderclasm. Though my friend and I had talked about Deafening Clarion which I now think is not the choice. With lightning helix coming life total may not be as much of a problem.

I'm glad you agree that you don't think it's the deck. I think the RC was a combination of luck, bad matchups, and my skill level not being up to par.

Mattydap on speedy Ghalta

2 years ago

Interesting concept for modern, but I am a little confused. Are you trying more to make a Dino deck or are you going all in on a stompy Ghalta plan. I've got a couple ideas, and will try to separate them though it may overlap.

  1. Elvish Mystic is cool and all, but I think if you added either Ignoble Hierarch or Noble Hierarch they would boost the color consistency plus buff the ghalta if it swung alone.

  2. Adding some sort of tutor like Forerunner of the Empire or Eladamri's Call to consistently get ghalta or some other big dino will help, plus if you play the Hierarch it gives you better access to cast it.

  3. I think I've talked myself into saying adding white would prove pretty beneficial to you if you are going the way of the dino cause that also adds Kinjalli's Caller. Also if you end up adding the tutors you could have overall less ghaltas in the deck to make room for other tutorable threats like Gishath, Sun's Avatar and Zacama, Primal Calamity

  4. It wouldn't be the worst idea to add some sort of draw engine into the deck like The Great Henge just so you have some more late game potential.

  5. Interaction like Reckless Rage would make room for attackers while also getting rid of threats. While something like Cinderclasm would help wipe the board while also activating your enrage creatures.

  6. If you end up adding Forerunner please consider adding Polyraptor it was a combo I used to play back in standard and I'd love knowing it could be seeing play in modern.

  7. Ummmm, yeah thats all I can really come up with off the top of my head right now sorry that its really messy, but if you take anything away from this adding white is my most important point. You'd probably have to change up the mana base if you did that though so you do you.

trippy_mcfly on Cumly Cube

2 years ago

Introducing Cumly Cube 1.1! 6 months ago, Cumly Cube was launched to resounding approval. However, in response to feedback from fans, several cards in the pool were deemed unplayable, uninteresting, or overpowered. For Cumly Cube's six month anniversary, I have chosen to update the card pool. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:

REMOVED:

  • Abomination: too weak in power level
  • Anger of the Gods: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
  • Birthing Pod: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Black Dragon: too weak in power level
  • Black Lotus: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Bloodcurdling Scream: too weak in power level
  • Cavalier of Night: too on-theme for a black card
  • Cinderclasm: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
  • Dack Fayden: too powerful
  • District Guide: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Dockside Extortionist: too strong in multiplayer games considering the dominance of the "treasure matters" archetype in this card pool
  • Dread Reaper: too weak in power level
  • Edric, Spymaster of Trest: too powerful
  • Eviscerator: too weak in power level
  • Grim Strider: too weak in power level
  • Hypnox: too weak in power level
  • Jungle Creeper: too weak in power level
  • Mind Bomb: too weak in power level
  • Mox Emerald: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Jet: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Pearl: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Ruby: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Sapphire: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver: too weak in power level
  • Nix: too weak in power level
  • Obelisk of Alara: too weak in power level
  • Patagia Golem: too weak in power level
  • Phantasmagorian: too weak in power level
  • Prismite: too weak in power level
  • Rootcoil Creeper: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Shattering Blow: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
  • Shatterskull Smashing  Flip: MDFCs are interesting cards, but it does not make sense to have only one in the card pool
  • Smelt: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
  • Smog Elemental: too weak in power level
  • Spirit of the Night: too weak in power level
  • Storm Spirit: too weak in power level
  • Tibalt's Trickery: introduces too much variance for an enjoyable experience
  • Unholy Strength: too weak in power level
  • Vampiric Link: too on-theme for a black card
  • Wooded Bastion: this was included on error instead of its Golgari counterpart

ADDED:

Kaymico on Jurassic Dreadnoughts (Naya dinosaur/ramp)

2 years ago

Heres a list of things that went through my mind looking at the deck. They are not recommended or necessary but should bee seen as different view on your deck. Who knows maybe you'll find something interesting.

Gishath, Sun's Avatar, Etali, Primal Storm and Ghalta, Primal Hunger feel very odd. Those cards only "win more" and dont contribute to the deck the way constructed is playing out. If u can stick Gishath, Sun's Avatar or Carnage Tyrant the game should be over in 2-3 turns anyways. Your damage trigger will best case reduce it to 2 turns consistently. Ghalta, Primal Hunter needs a lot of power already on the board which indicates you're winning already, making it a bit redundant. And Etali, Primal Storm is fun to play with but considering cards commonly played in pioneer wont do much in a duel.

Switch Shifting Ceratops with Zetalpa, Primal Dawn because Zetalpa is the stronger game 1 threat

I would also Remove Otepec Huntmaster and add some protection or land based ramp

if you only use half the amounts of Regisaur Alpha you could include Relentless Raptor if you want more early game

It also would'nt Hurt to include some early Sweepers like Crush the Weak or Cinderclasm against aggro decks

Some very good dinosaurs to consider:

Deathgorge Scavenger;Rampaging Ferocidon;Ripjaw Raptor;Runic Armasaur

lhetrick13 on Prehistoric Rumble!

2 years ago

Radiant_Draconis - I could see that. Both Huatli planeswalkers have game ending abilities paired with other useful abilities like lifegain or a version of removal. Just a shame they cost so much to get out on the field!

Do you find running 4xMarauding Raptor to be rough at times? You are running 3xTemple Altisaur so that might alleviate my fear but I mean the damage Marauding Raptor provides is great for triggering enrage but is a double edged sword in that regard to as two of them means you can not play creatures with power 4 or less. I am running two because of that fear and healthy recognition of my bad luck.

Lastly, Heaven / Earth is an interesting choice to run. I imagine you are running it primarily for the Earth ability to either clear the board or as a mass enrage trigger but with the Aftermath ability, you have to play the Heaven component first, which feels very situational as you have no creatures with flying so betting your opponent will. I feel like there are so many options for this boardwipe/mass enrage trigger slot that might fill it better like Cinderclasm, Earthquake, Sweltering Suns, Slagstorm, Anger of the Gods, etc. Each of those has a slight different flavor but would allow you to do something similar at a lower cost.

patmurphy1986 on Lathliss Commander

2 years ago

Ok here is my take on the budget side. TLDR: Land total and Ramp increased. A lot of subpar removal taken out, and better ones put in. Some cheaper dragons/shapeshifters added to smooth out curve and provide cheap dragon drops for commander ability. Most importantly is added some value for getting extra dragons from cards, either by creating tokens or playing them for free from hand/deck. Added in 3 additional wincons similar to Terror of the Peaks to make it easier to win just by populating board and swinging in. Note that the wincons also can serve as creature removal, which is why so many of the outs are instant/sorcery removals

Kazierts on Budget Izzet Dragons

2 years ago

Love to see people trying to brew dragons. They seem such a fun tribe but can be a bit too heavy to play.

Before I suggest something, I have to say I loved the idea of Call to the Kindred. It's probably a bit slow, but the idea of enchanting the smalller dragons to cheat bigger ones seems really fun.

Now, onto my suggestions.

  • I've both had friends who tried to build dragons and trying to build dragons myself. From these experiences, I can say, for sure, that Dragonlord's Servant is a trap. A much better option is Orb of Dragonkind. It does almost the same thing while allowing you to potentially splash one or two dragons that don't fit the color identity and can serve as a "tutor" for another dragon late game.
  • Dragonmaster Outcast, despite being capable of summoning a token, is more of a buildaround card. It's literally gonna take at least six turns for his effect to become, but seven for it to have a chance to activate. Since you already have Slumbering Dragon, I'd suggesting increasing it to three copies and cutting the Dragonmaster.
  • While I initially wanted to build a Dragon deck with in it because of Silumgar's Scorn, Counterspell is just better in every situation.
  • I don't know how it would affect your budget, but Shivan Reef would do wonders for this deck.
  • Pyroclasm is just better Cinderclasm.

If anything would increase your budget too much, let me know and I'll try to find better options.

itsbuzzi on Red Board Wipes

3 years ago

I run in the format a bit and would like to add to the list as some of my favorites were not found. I would also like to add there are two types: large and small. Generally small red board wipes consist of 3 damage or less to the board whereas large board wipes deal more. I'll separate them into these piles. There are 2 things you are looking for when refering to red boardwipes: Mana cost and damage; you want the best bang for your buck in a sense. A semi-complete list of the best unique board wipes includes: (This list may be missing some, Gatherer missed Cinderclasm)

Small Boardwipes

Anger of the Gods: Deals 3 damage to each creature with exile clause for 3 mana at sorcery speed. A standard scale of a good board wipe.

Chandra, Awakened Inferno (Cast for 6 then -3): Deals 3 damage to each non-elemental for 6 mana at sorcery speed with potential upside after untapping next turn. Deck-dependent, if you only need a board wipe and don't need the other value this is not the card you need and isn't worth it.

Cinderclasm: Deals 1 damage to each creature for 2 (1) or 2 damage to each for 1 at instant speed. Depending on what you need the stop the instant speed is valuable as you can stop triggers ensuring what you are killing doesn't get bigger and play around any potential counterspell or protection.

Crush the Weak: 2 damage to each creature with exile clause at sorcery speed for 3 (2) or foretold to spread the mana across a couple of turns; not exactly what you want with a board wipe unless you can set it up this way. This card isn't really any better than Cinderclasm unless the is hard to cast or you need the exile clause.

End the Festivities: 1 damage to each creature and planeswalker for 1 at sorcery speed. A good standard for a tiny board wipe but is fringe in utility.

Fiery Cannonade: 2 damage to each non-pirate creature at instant speed for 2. Is deck-dependent, personally best used while piloting a pirate deck but otherwise is similar to Cinderclasm.

Flame Sweep: 2 damage to each non-flyer for 2 at instant speed. Very similar in utility to Fiery Cannonade but worse as flyers are more prevalent in the format and just in general.

Incendiary Sabotage: 3 damage to each creature at instant speed for 2 and sacing an artifact. Fringe where you need artifacts in the deck but the instant speed may be useful as described before but is somewhat on par with Anger of the Gods due to versatility but worse based on utility.

Radiant Flames: 1 2 or 3 damage to each creature depending on how many colors of mana used to cast at sorcery speed. This is a versatile board wipe and very much on par with Anger of the Gods perhaps better due to the ease of casting paired with the different modes on it but does not come with the exile clause.

Sweltering Suns: 3 damage to each creature for 1 with cycling 2 at sorcery speed. Very similar to Anger of the Gods which is a good place to be with more utility where you can get a new card from it at instant speed if it's not needed.

Vampires' Vengeance: 2 damage to each non-vampire creature. Essentially similar to Fiery Cannonade.

Large Boardwipes

Burn Down the House: 5 damage to each creature and planeswalker or 3 1/1 devil tokens with haste for the turn for 3 at sorcery speed. Depending on how much damage you need to include this one covers all your bases with additional playability with the devils.

Chandra, Flamecaller (Cast for 6 then -X): Deals X damage up to a max of 4 (unless other loyalty raising cards are used) to each creature for 6 mana at sorcery speed with potential upside after untapping next turn if it survives. Deck-dependent, if you only need a board wipe and don't need the other value this is not the card you need.

Draconic Intervention: X damage to each non-Dragon creature where X is an instant or sorcery card's mana value in your yard with the additional cost of exiling the instant or sorcery for 2 at sorcery speed. Deck dependent obviously but can go large or small just has a large additional cost. You'd want to get at least 3 damage off of this every time and more to make it really worth it.

Gates Ablaze: X damage to each creature where X is how many gates you have for 2 at sorcery speed. Very much deck dependent of course but if it fits the deck this is the card to run.

Hour of Devastation: 5 damage to each creature and each non-bolas planeswalker while losing indestructible for 3 at sorcery speed. This is similar to Burn Down the House where unless you need the additional text on the card just run Burn Down the House.

Kozilek's Return: 2 damage to each creature for 2 at instant speed with the additional bonus of exiling it from your yard as you cast an Eldrazi for 7 or more to deal 5 damage to each creature. Once again deck dependent of course but if it fits the deck this is the card to run.

Mizzium Mortars: For the board wipe mode (the only mode we are looking at) its 4 damage to each creature you don't control for 3 at sorcery speed. Not exactly the rate of a board wipe you want unless the bonus of the 1 sided boardwipe is that appealing.

Sarkhan's Unsealing: The board wipe mode is after casting a creature for 7 or more it deals 4 damage to each creature and planeswalker you don't control. Similar to Kozilek's Return but worse where you don't have the early game mode but better where it is repeatable. It doesn't look like you need this one unless it fits the deck.

Star of Extinction: The mother of all board wipes. Deal 20 damage to each creature and planeswalker while also blowing up their land for 5 at sorcery speed. Very over the top and you most likely can get what you need to do for less mana.

Storm's Wrath: Deals 4 damage to each creature and planeswalker for 2 at sorcery speed. Pretty much the best board wipe to deal 4 damage.

The Best Wipes at Each Damage

Generally speaking these are the best at simply dealing damage while staying mana conservative:

1 damage: Token hate or very aggro hate End the Festivities

2 damage: Inbetween of Token hate & standard damage Radiant Flames just due to the fact that for the same mana it can hit for 3 damage.

3 damage: Standard amount of damage It's very close but just for ease of casting Radiant Flames beats out the competition unless the cycling fits well or the exile clause is needed.

4 damage: Inbetween of Smaller and Larger amount of damage Storm's Wrath Not even a question is the best by far.

5 damage: Larger amount of damage Burn Down the House. It's close but the additional option of the card helps it beat out.

Anything Larger: Star of Extinction Basically, if you need to board wipe in red and need to deal more than 5 damage you're generally out of luck and should look elsewhere. Star of Extinction is not really a card you want to be running if you can avoid it the mana cost is just so high.

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