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Creature — Dinosaur
Carnage Tyrant can't be countered.
Carnage Tyrant Discussion
1 day ago
Depending on what kinds of decks you're against at FNM the top decks in Standard right now are $500. These decks cost this much because of three color manabases and mythic rares. The more colors you play the more money you will need to spend on a playable manabase. This doesn't mean that all decks are this expensive. If you like aggro then there's plenty of less expensive options.
You can make monoblue fliers aggro for $100, monowhite History aggro or monored burn aggro for about $150, Azorius aggro for $200. These decks can compete and win at FMN and these deck prices include full sideboards. They're all relatively simple to play, easier than most decks to learn quickly if this is something you care about.
Honestly, you want to be in white not green if you want to play aggro because white gives you the most one drop creatures as well as Venerated Loxodon , Benalish Marshal , Unbreakable Formation , expensive but powerful History of Benalia and Conclave Tribunal which is a very good budget removal spell that can remove any nonland permanent. You can add blue to white for more options, but doing this means count on adding $50 to the total deck price because you'll need 8x rare dual lands.
If Green is the color you want to play than aggro is not the best option. Green is good for midrange, but midrange is not a type of deck you play with a low budget especially with green. The current explore package: Jadelight Ranger , Merfolk Branchwalker and Wildgrowth Walker is not very expensive and it's powerful, where you want to be with green.
These go well with Golgari; deck is $200-300 depending on how many Carnage Tyrant and Vivien Reid you want to play. These cards are powerful, but expensive and you want at least one of each to increase the competitiveness of the deck. Black is added to green for some less expensive cards: Find / Finality , Ravenous Chupacabra , Midnight Reaper and nice sideboard options. Vraska's Contempt is an expensive black card and depending on your FNM meta, the amount of Planeswalkers you're against, you may or not need it. As a midrange deck Golgari is pretty easier to understand, but it's going to be more expensive than other aggro decks.
If any of these options interest you I offer more advice if you choose one.
If Simic is what you want to play than my advice is look at midrange not aggro. But as far as competitiveness Simic is worse than Golgari. If I was to build a less expensive competitive Simic midrange I would build around Hadana's Climb Flip using the explore package of creatures with Growth-Chamber Guardian and Zegana, Utopian Speaker . Hydroid Krasis is by far the best Simic creature in Standard, but it's ridiculously expensive. Blue provides some good sideboard cards.
Here's an example Simic Climb Midrange.
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1 week ago
I honestly would try to make the deck more control focused in the early game and then switch to beating them to death with your flying demons with trample later in the game. So this would mean having cards like Moment of Craving , Lava Coil , Bedeck / Bedazzle , Ritual of Soot , Golden Demise , Vraska's Contempt , and Bedevil to keep the opponents board under control. Cards like Scorchmark , Bladebrand , and Undercity's Embrace are not the cards you are going to want to use because, well quite frankly they aren't very good. Bladebrand is effectively a 2 for 1 trade for an opponent's creature at the cost of your own. Sure it draws you a card but you used 2 cards when one would suffice. Do you want card draw or removal? Scorchmark is just a worse Lava Coil . Undercity's Embrace can be alright but The Eldest Reborn is just better. Sure embrace can be used earlier but what do you need to kill early on that requires the opponent to sacrifice it? Carnage Tyrant ? Well, that doesn't typically come out on turn three anyways and if it does they've got 3 other creatures to choose from. Bedevil is just a better 3 mana kill spell to put in this spot.
Sorry if that sounded mean/ranty but I really didn't mean it to be, I just think that there are better choices to be made then the ones that are currently in the deck. I'm glad someone is trying to do a demon deck as I want to do the same, but sadly there just doesn't seem to be enough out there for a tried and true demons focused creature deck. At least in my opinion. I hope this was at least somewhat helpful.
1 week ago
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2 weeks ago
First off, congrats on your 2-1 finish! That’s an excellent showing! I’m thrilled to hear you decided to take the deck for a spin, and did so well with it! I also really, really enjoyed your tournament report — thank you so much for posting it. Seriously, it made my day. Well-written and fun to read. I really got a kick out of it. Keep them coming!!
I’m also glad that your second opponent enjoyed the deck! I humbly thank him for his compliments.
Now, let’s talk strategy. I agree with you that generally it is more correct to mainboard the full playset of Duress and to keep Fiery Cannonade on the sideboard. The general metagame simply has too many rich targets for the card, and too many cards that can wreck your game unless you snag them. Also, I’d note, too, that without Duress , control decks are extremely tough to beat in Game 1. I think Duress is the way to go for now.
First, let me try to answer your questions.
1) “First, when you sideboard, what cards do you tend to pull to make room?”
Generally, my matchups tend to fall into one of three broad categories: control, midrange, or aggro. What follows are my general sideboard approaches to the three, and reasons why. Keep in mind that all decks are different, though, so tweak your plans based on your observations and instincts in the moment.
- Aggro: -4x Ruin Raider , -4x Duress , -1x Dire Fleet Daredevil ; +4x Fiery Cannonade , +3x Price of Fame , +2x Cast Down (or just five additional pieces of whatever targeted removal you are playing on the sideboard; Bedevil is good too if you have it)
Aggro is about keeping your opponent’s creatures at bay while attacking with your own. These matchups are often a race, so your life total is precious. Hence, Ruin Raider is out. Since aggro usually runs lots of low-toughness creatures, Cannonade does big work here. Most aggro lists run comparatively few spells, so you can leave Duress behind here most of the time. Adding in lots of removal helps make sure you will stay alive. If your opponent does the same thing, you can consider sneaking in some March of the Drowned for Game 3.
- Midrange: -4x Rigging Runner , everything else depends; bring in various cards that “seem good” against what the opponent is doing
It’s hard to neatly categorize midrange decks because there’s so much diversity in this broad group. Basically, these decks all share one aspect — they all want to grind. They tend to have lots of removal, lots of creatures that double as spells and provide incidental value ( Ravenous Chupacabra is a great example), and piles of late-game threats like Doom Whisperer and Carnage Tyrant that can win the game if unanswered. In general, Rigging Runner is weak against decks that want to grind because it is such a poor draw late in the game. So almost always, he comes out. What do you put in? Almost always some number of March of the Drowned because these decks are so grindy and removal-heavy, usually at least a couple of hard removal spells like Cast Down to deal with any game-winning creatures they resolve late in the game, and maybe even Fiery Cannonade if they have a substantial suite of creatures that lie lower on the mana curve (mana dorks like Llanowar Elves ramp decks are good fodder for Fiery Cannonade ). Sorcerous Spyglass is great against midrange decks using lots of planeswalkers. You’ll have to often tweak things and use your judgment here.
- Control: I’ll make it easy here, just do this exact sideboard.
-4x Rigging Runner , -4x Lava Coil , -1x Dire Fleet Poisoner ; +4x March of the Drowned , +2x Sorcerous Spyglass , +3x Price of Fame . You want as much card draw ( Ruin Raider ) and recursion as you can get here, and you want as many Duress effects as possible. Price of Fame will kill their finishers apart from hexproof threats (especially good against Lyra Dawnbringer ) and help fix the top of your deck so you can close out the game (surveil also works pretty well with March of the Drowned ). Note that if they’re on the Rekindling Phoenix plan that you’ll want to hang onto some Lava Coil s, too. If you do this sideboard, you’ll stop them cold almost every time. You just have too many ways to disrupt their plan, and either to prevent or recover from their sweepers. There’s a certain skill of playing against control, too, so you will need to get the hang of it. It’s not easy, and it’s a different approach to the game. Avoiding overcommitment to the board if you fear a sweeper, playing around a Settle the Wreckage , deciding which cards to cast into countermagic — all of these are decisions you must make correctly if you want to defeat the control player.
2) what plans do you have to include cards from Allegiance?
Well, aside from the obvious upgrades of the shock lands ( Blood Crypt ) being inserted in place of 4 basic lands, I opted to put in 3 Bedevil in place of three of the targeted removal spells I previously used on the sideboard (one Cast Down , and two Price of Fame ). Bedevil hits so many things. Now I can hit either Lyra or Teferi against control, and we even have an option against artifacts.
Re: Theater of Horrors and Light Up the Stage ...I feel that we have plenty of card advantage in Ruin Raider and Dire Fleet Daredevil (the Daredevil does provide free cards quite often). And they are on-theme as a creatures and as Pirates. The Theater though, is a really good card and worth a try. It provides damage and cards, both very good against control. I’m not a huge fan of exiling cards face-up because it robs Dire Fleet Poisoner of its surprise factor and therefore much of its power. Still, if the Theater lands against control, it could be very, very good. However, I feel we are already strong against control, so I’m not sure we need it. I think these cards are good though, and you could very well be onto something. If you do incorporate them into your build, I’d love to hear how they perform.
Remember you can always read my updates posted to this deck page for my tournament reports. I give some info about how matches and sideboard decisions turn out, if a bit choppily put at times. We are Pirates, after all!
Thanks again for the comment — I’m super happy and flattered to hear you are enjoying the deck. I’m looking forward to hearing about your further successes!
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3 weeks ago
I would recommend more Mortify , maybe for the MB but certainly for SB at least. The ability to hit opposing enchantments ( Seal Away , Ixalan's Binding , Conclave Tribunal , History of Benalia , The Eldest Reborn , Search for Azcanta Flip) gives you a way to deal with some of the most powerful cards in the format. Additionally it allows you to hit non-legendary creatures for only 1 more mana than Cast Down .
Carnage Tyrant occurrence in decks from the last year
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