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Waterlogged Grove
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cyeRunner on
Sultai Flash Control
5 days ago
With Nightpack Ambusher out you can change some lands, because you need less , I recommend the following:
- +1 Ice Tunnel, -1 Zagoth Triome
- +1 Castle Vantress, -1 Snow-Covered Island
- +1 Waterlogged Grove, -1 Nurturing Peatland
Also i'd cut 1 Brazen Borrower for some card advantage: Cling to Dust, JtMS, Memory Deluge
Gidgetimer on Why doesn't fanatic of mogus …
1 month ago
Even if it wasn't 10 times better, card inclusion isn't necessarily linearly related to card quality. I wouldn't say that Breeding Pool is 5 times better than Waterlogged Grove, but it is in 5 times as many decks.
Chasmolinker on Chasmolinker
3 months ago
Here’s a section from my recent budget Merfolk deck.
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#### [[card:Cavern of Souls]]
With a heavy representation of [[symbol:U]] decks in the current Modern Meta, this powerful land is worth it's weight in Platinum. (Literally) Unfortunately this high price tag limits us to 1 copy.
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#### [[card:Otawara, Soaring City]]
An un-counterable bounce spell on a land is hard to not include. This land is still a reasonable price and offers the deck an added utility with which to steal victory. Play it untapped as a [[symbol:U]] source, pitch it to bounce a permanent for soft removal, or bounce your own permanent for protection. Keep in mind that this hits artifact creature and enchantment lands if needed.
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#### [[card:Mutavault]]
While not an island, an honorary merfolk that can receive a boost from your [[card:Lord of Atlantis (LEB) | Lords]] and provide a threat that can be tough to interact with against certain decks.
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#### [[card:Waterlogged Grove]] / [[card:Fiery Islet]]
Running out of gas in an aggressive deck is the worst thing you can have happen. With an empty board and an empty hand, the top of your library is your last resource in Merfolk. The ability to double dip in a pinch makes this untapped land a welcome addition to the archetype. Be careful with the pain taken from this land as it can add up against other aggro decks.
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wallisface on
Mill Yourself
4 months ago
Lands like Waterlogged GroveFiery Islet would be good in the cases where you get land-flooded.
Castle Vantress would likely also be helpful
DrkNinja on
Blue/green token
10 months ago
Alrund's Epiphany Arachnogenesis Awakening Zone Bane of Progress Barkchannel Pathway Flip Beacon of Creation Birds of Paradise Circle of Dreams Druid Crafty Cutpurse Craterhoof Behemoth Cryptolith Rite Deep Forest Hermit Dreamroot Cascade Fabled Passage Fierce Guardianship Garruk, Primal Hunter Idol of Oblivion Junk Winder Koma, Cosmos Serpent Master of Waves Misty Rainforest Mystic Reflection Mystic Sanctuary Nissa, Voice of Zendikar Oko, Thief of Crowns Otawara, Soaring City Priest of Titania Prismatic Vista Reality Shift Reef Worm Replicating Ring Repudiate / Replicate Rite of Replication Sakashima of a Thousand Faces Second Harvest Shamanic Revelation Sublime Epiphany Sylvan Library Theoretical Duplication Timestream Navigator Treasure Vault Tropical Island Waterlogged Grove Worldly Tutor Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
jaymc1130 on Convoluted Combos
11 months ago
AstroAA Sometimes a silly initial idea can lead to a fundamentally powerful truth. That's part of why our group initially started running the original Bloom Combo in any Sultai shell. There are lots of combos in the game that are very powerful, and evaluating total efficiency in competitive settings can help a player win more games by streamlining deck play patterns through deck construction techniques.
For example, a quick comparison of some of the combos we've discussed so far, Bloom Combo, Dramatic Scepter Combo, and Thoracle Consult Combo.
Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation requires 2 card slots in a deck to be able to produce a win with a total mana investment of . It's not just compact in mana investment and card slots, it's also stack compact, requiring just the Oracle trigger, holding priority, and the Consult naming a card not in the deck. All of these factors combine to make it extremely efficient at the job it does and this comes with the trade off of extremely high risk to go with such an efficient maximum reward. If your attempt gets stuffed at the point where you exile your deck but your Oracle trigger doesn't resolve successfully then you get to enjoy perhaps a turn cycle before dying immediately on your next upkeep. Extreme efficiency with the trade off of some knuckle whitening risk. It makes this a great combo to employ at a moment's notice in situations where you can fit it in while opponents didn't leave themselves with enough resources to defend against the line of play, but not usually ideal being used into the full grip and untapped mana bases of opponents ready to interact and the two cards won't generate much value while waiting for the opportune moment as they sit in hand.
Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal is a 2 card combo that generates infinite untaps of nonland permanents with a minimum of 1 additional card that itself is a nonland mana producing permanent (ie, Sol Ring). The loop can become mana positive with certain cards or combinations of cards (Mana Vault, or Arcane Signet+Sol Ring). And that infinite mana can be used with some sort of outlet card to produce a win. So it's a combo that at a minimum will require 4 cards to produce a win, though more often 5 or 6. The mana investment is to play and activate, which is more efficient than the number of card slots that will need to be dedicated to it. It's a combo with components that will have at least some value over time before the combo is activated outright since those dorks and rocks can probably cast another spell, so it has some natural play pattern efficiency. If stuffed, there's a pretty decent chance of losing access to this combo in the future. If the Scepter is destroyed in response to it's first activation, for example, you'll be out the exiled Dramatic Reversal from the imprint even if you can get the Scepter back into play later on. So still maximum reward potential, but less impactful risk to go with the slightly less efficient overall set up since you won't lose if stuffed. It's a combo that can be played pretty easily into opponents ready to defend since it will generate mana to interact with them after starting it's loop and the mana investment on your end is pretty low, but an easy one to interact with for opponents so it's liable to be one they stuff if thrown out wily nilly.
Summer Bloom + Mystic Sanctuary + Waterlogged Grove + Squandered Resources + Ramunap Excavator + Noxious Revival + green land is 7 pieces in total, but one is only needed as the "outlet" (Noxious Revival to loop the deck) and another can be essentially any random land that might be lying around to bring the core down to those 5 unique cards. With the initial 6 cards in place and Revival in the deck the initial mana investment can be as low as to begin the line of play by casting the Summer Bloom. If some of the other pieces aren't in play then the initial investment cost isn't quite so shockingly efficient, but the combo is still solid in terms of card slot and mana investment efficiency when not wowing. Not much risk if the attempt is stuffed, and there's a decent chance you can just try again by saccing the Sanctuary and replaying it to get the Summer Bloom back if countered for example, but the same maximum potential reward of winning the game. Most of the pieces of the combo are value components themselves so they fit naturally into most board state development play patterns allowing you to both spend resources reacting to opponents and amass resources in play and in hand when they don't present serious threats. By far the most conservative of these 3 combos, but far more flexible in it's approach while minimizing potential risks to lose the game.
wallisface on
UG Erayo Control/Lock
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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You need a way to reliably get Thrasta, Tempest's Roar into your hand, as it appears to be the only way you'll be able to apply pressure. Unlike traditional control, you have a lot of Thrasta-enabling pieces clogging up your deck, so I don't think you can rely on keeping control of the game for long before your opponent starts being able to enact their plans. Traditional Storm decks get what they need efficiently by having loads of draw-cards in their decks, so maybe that's a good avenue to explore?
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20 lands fees super low, especially when you're running 4cmc stuff like Cryptic Command and Paradoxical Outcome (and you're going to need more than just the to cast Thrasta, Tempest's Roar also... feels like you need to reach 5ish lands??) I would think you'd want 23 lands as a minimum (Waterlogged Grove'd be good additions as you can always draw from them if you're flooding)
wallisface on
Eldrazi PanharmoniTron
1 year ago
deathjunky If I were trying to build a Modern Panharmonicon with Tron Lands deck, I think i’d initially set myself the following restrictions:
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Make sure there’s a full playset of Panharmonicon. The card is important to have in play, so we should be ensuring we get it.
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Ensure that the vast majority of the deck benefits from Panharmonicon. I would ditch the Eldrazi entirely for this, and focus on artifacts to make for a toolboxy build using Whir of Invention (this would allow us to get setup, while also getting pieces we need).
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Figure out how much we need Tron active. We either need low-ish cmc with Chalice of the Void, or we need to splash green to ensure Tron becomes active. I’m personally in favour of option A, though i think i’d still splash green for the likes of Thragtusk.
I think i’d end up with something like this (just spitballing, so this can easily be refined):
- 4x Panharmonicon
- 4x Chalice of the Void
- 3x Prophetic Prism
- 1x Welding Jar
- 1x Cloudstone Curio
- 1x Jester's Scepter
- 4x Karn, the Great Creator
- 4x Ice-Fang Coatl
- 2x Thragtusk
- 1x Acidic Slime
- 1x Meteor Golem
- 1x Esika's Chariot
- 1x Ancestral Statue
- 1x Myr Battlesphere
- 3x Thought Monitor
- 4x Whir of Invention
- 4x Botanical Sanctum
- 4x Snow-Covered Island
- 4x Waterlogged Grove
- 4x Urza's Mine
- 4x Urza's Power Plant
- 4x Urza's Tower
(Note, after going through that exercise, the biggest takeaway I have is that I don’t think Panharmonicon wants to be in the same deck as Tron-lands. If i’d just built this as a UG creature list, instead of a tron based build, i think it’d have been easier to ramp, and have access to better payoffs (i.e Hornet Queen). I think the best path forward for your Panharmonicon might be to ditch Tron)
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