Grixis Charm

Instant

Choose one — Return target permanent to its owner's hand; or target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn; or creatures you control get +2/+0 until end of turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (34)

DemonDragonJ on MtG Reprint Wish List

6 months ago

Magic: the Gathering has thousands, or even tens of thousands, of cards, some of which have been reprinted more often then have others (i.e., some have been reprinted numerous times, while others have never been reprinted), so I would like to make a list of any and all cards that users here would like to see reprinted, in any set and at any time. Obviously, we cannot mention any cards that are on the reserved list, but any other cards are eligible to be mentioned here.

First, I shall mention Book of Rass, Claws of Gix, Martyr's Cause, and Righteous Aura, since none of those cards have ever been reprinted, or at least they have not been reprinted, recently, so I very much would like to see them reprinted in the new border style and with new artwork, and they are also excellent cards for teaching newer players that life and permanents can be used as resources, as well.

Next, it would be great if Anointed Procession could be reprinted, especially considering that WotC has reprinted both Doubling Season and Parallel Lives, recently, meaning that the two green enchantments are much less expensive than is the white one.

I also find it to be very surprising that Oloro, Ageless Ascetic has never been reprinted, outside of a judge promo, which I do not consider to be a proper reprint, given that he is a very popular general in EDH.

Absorb was reprinted, in the most recent visit to Ravnica, but it is still a rare, which I feel is definitely not the rarity that it should have, now; it most certainly should be only an uncommon, and I also would like to see Undermine reprinted as an uncommon, as well.

The filter lands (i.e., Cascade Bluffs, Twilight Mire, and so forth) have been reprinted in numerous Commander sets, but either with the original artwork and flavor text from Shadowmoor and Eventide or with artwork and flavor text in Universes Beyond sets, and they have never been reprinted in a standard set, so I would like to see them reprinted in a standard set, so that they shall have new artwork and flavor text.

Ancient Spider has never been reprinted, so I feel that it definitely deserves to be; with Thunder Spirit being on the reserved list (which it most certainly should not be, in my mind), I believe that WotC should reprint Sky Spirit more frequently, as it is such a useful creature, and, similarly, Tempest Drake has never been reprinted, so it definitely should be. Also, Dragonlair Spider is not terribly expensive, currently but I feel that it deserves a reprint, to keep it affordable.

The utility lands from both Ravnica (i.e., Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion) and Innistrad (i..e, Kessig Wolf Run) are an interesting case, since some of those cards have been reprinted more often than have the others, so I would like to see all of them reprinted, to keep them easily available.

The original ten guildmages (from the first Ravnica block) were reprinted in Ravnica Remastered, so I would like to see the ten guildmages from the Return to Ravnica block (i.e., Vizkopa Guildmage, Zameck Guildmage, and so forth) reprinted, as well.

Coalition VictoryGC was reprinted as a timeshifted card, but I would like to see it reprinted in the new frame style, and, Cromat has never been reprinted, either, so it would be nice to see that card in the new frame style, as well.

Given how frequently WotC has reprinted Command Tower, Reliquary Tower, Thespian's Stage, and Exotic Orchard, I really wish that they would reprint Homeward Path and Reflecting Pool more frequently, as well.

Grixis Charm is the only charm from its cycle that has not yet been reprinted, so I would like to see it reprinted, and, similarly, Dromar, the Banisher and Numot, the Devastator are also the only cards in their cycles that have never been reprinted, either, so I definitely would like to see them be reprinted, at some point, as well.

Given that WotC recently reprinted Mikokoro, Center of the Sea twice, it would be nice to see them reprint Miren, the Moaning Well; I understand that High Market is generally superior to the well, but it still would be nice to have the well reprinted, anyway.

Intervention Pact is the only card from its cycle that was not reprinted in Time Spiral remastered, so I definitely would like to see it reprinted, at some point.

The ten lieges were reprinted in the second Double Masters set, but Deathbringer Liege was the only one that had new artwork, so I would like to see all ten reprinted, with new artwork, at some point, and I also would like to see the ten demigods (i.e., Divinity of Pride, Deus of Calamity, and so forth), as well as the ten auras that are associated with them (i.e., Scourge of the Nobilis, Clout of the Dominus, and so forth) reprinted, as well.

I believe that I have mentioned a fairly significant number of cards that I would like to see reprinted, so I shall now open this conversation to other users, here; what are some cards that you very much would like to see be reprinted?

DemonDragonJ on Diabolical Machinations

1 year ago

I have replaced Recoil with Maestros Charm, because, while Recoil is an excellent card in its own right, it is rather lackluster in EDH, whereas the charm provides me with greater flexibility; I could have replaced Grixis Charm with the newer charm, since the charm is easily the weakest of its cycle, but I shall keep it, as it fits the theme of this deck, from a flavor perspective.

Secretmeat on Nek

5 years ago

A few suggestions. I think you probably want to run at least 35 lands in order to keep the deck running consistently. You've got some decent ramp, and all the extra draw will help, but missing land drops sucks.
You might consider the damage doublers and tripler available in red Dictate of the Twin Gods , Furnace of Rath affect everyone, Gratuitous Violence or Inquisitor's Flail work for your commander, but the best would be Angrath's Marauders or Fiery Emancipation (!triple damage!) Since they only affect you and work for all your damage sources.
Stormfist Crusader is more of what you've got.
What to cut to make room for that stuff is kind of up to you but I think Game Plan , Grixis Charm , Dimir Charm , and Spectacle Mage would all be candidates for me.
Cool deck though and pretty reasonably priced for how effective it looks like it could be.

golgarigirl on

6 years ago

As we mentioned, I think the best thing for Thrax himself is to get him on the field a turn or two early. Mana rocks are going to be the thing, since we can't make extra land drops with green. Hopefully we can get Thrax down turn 5 or so, so rocks costing 4 or less are where it's at. My favorites are Chromatic Lantern, signets such as Izzet Signet, and others that make your off-colors since we're focusing black with our mana. Altars such as Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar might be the end goal here, given the sacrifice subtheme with the Pact effects.

Some extra card draw might help get us the mana and rocks we need on-curve. God-Eternal Bontu pairs with pact effects for a blowout, Cryptbreaker turns your bodies into cards and your useless cards into bodies, and Midnight Reaper/ Undead Augur are less dangerous to you with your sacrifice outlets to make sure they don't hurt you too much. Corpse Harvester plays triple duty as ramp, tutor, and sac outlet.

I'm going to further push the sacrifice subtheme and see if we can shore up one of the weaknesses Thrax shares with Savra...large creature armies. Archfiend of Depravity and Vona's Hunger will stop a billion saprolings from getting you down, and Butcher of Malakir seems like a good redundancy piece. And it might not be the best, but I really like Syphon Flesh in here.

Also, if you're going for stealth Liliana tribal, you're missing OG Liliana Vess :P I also like Angrath, Captain of Chaos in here (I wouldn't even make a token with him...just leave him up as a harder-to-kill enchantment)...probably better than most of your Lili options if you're not married to the 'tribe'. Last Hope and Heretical Healer would be my picks for the weak links of the planeswalkers you do play.

THERE ARE NO INSTANTS IN THIS DECK?! Let's grab some versatile ones, so I don't start thinking I can free-roll on your turn. Crosis's Charm, Soul Manipulation, Grixis Charm, Silumgar's Command, and Lazotep Plating are some of my picks for cards that can always find a use.

Other cards I'm unimpressed with: Cruel Reality, Army of the Damned, Skull Storm, Nightmare Lash, Mayhem Devil, Nekusar, the Mindrazer

Izu_Korasu on Why Has WotC Changed How …

7 years ago

aside from the theory above/new player focus, flavor wise "charms" (error charm = Emerald Charm , Grixis Charm etc) make more sense being triggered off of it's owners use rather then all spells cast on the plane it exists on. Prism Ring also shows that WOTC values the new mementos' as a less powerful effect, and turning into a 1/3 horse for +1 mana follows the r&D casting cost rules.

also ...

diamond knight isnt a charm/memento, its closer to Quirion Dryad (but trading an easier casting cost for less spell colors) or the Managorger Hydra style creature, nerfed to be 1 cmc less and a colorless artifact (all things have a "cost" when building a card)

SynergyBuild on Why Utter End, and cards …

7 years ago

What are some of the most popular instants and sorceries according to EDHREC?

Putrefy , Utter End , Terminate , Mortify , Krosan Grip , Hero's Downfall , Crosis's Charm , Bant Charm , Sylvan Reclamation , Go for the Throat , Doom Blade , Murder , Grixis Charm , Cancel , Dreadbore etc.

What do these have in common? Well, they are bad removal (or countermagic... or both), all of which are overcosted.

Why? Well, these all fall under different categories, however, I will go from the easiest to explain to the hardest.

Cancel is too expensive, countermagic should be one or two mana so you don't have to clearly have a sign up that you are holding countermagic. This is really cheap, and I can't compete with that, but Mana Leak or Counterspell would be better in the spot tenfold.

Murder is the same, as creature removal, but at least can be cast on endsteps. The issue lies with that many spells cost less, like even Doom Blade , which I also don't like, or do more, like Terminate , another I also don't like.

Disdainful Stroke is way too specific, so many spells costs 3 or less you may hold up the mana multiple turn cycles in a row without a target, wasting mana and a card. Too expensive considering cards like Swan Song , Spell Pierce , Red Elemental Blast , Flusterstorm , etc. exist. Even at a low price Mana Leak , Negate , etc. do work.

Doom Blade and Go for the Throat are the same, except they still have application when used on an endstep. Too expensive despite that, as Swords to Plowshares , Path to Exile , Dismember , Fatal Push , etc. exist if you can spend the money, while on a budget Murderous Cut , Tragic Slip , etc. do a lot.

Hero's Downfall is just a worse Ruinous Path , another Murder with slight upside. All of these are bad. Go with any of the options in Murder or Go for the Throat / Doom Blade .

Grixis Charm and Crosis's Charm cost Grixis, 3 mana, and are just too hard to cast to be worth the half Vindicate esque effect they do. They bounce anything, kill some things, and one has a minor benefit like 2 extra power. It just doesn't serve consistent enough for removal. 3 mana in Grixis is too much altogether.

Bant Charm is nearly the same, with the counter upside. It has a Dispel attached to it, making it the least bad, but for 3 specific mana, it is simply too much to hold up easily.

Dreadbore is a sorcery, costs two specific mana, and doesn't hit many permanents. I'd rather a Terminate , though I dislike both.

Terminate only hits so many permanents, and costs 2 mana. I'd replace it with most of the cards mentioned at Go for the Throat / Doom Blade above.

Sylvan Reclamation five mana is too much unless it is a sweeper. This has utility, hitting two permanents, and is an instant with landcycling, but the mana cost needed to be 1 lower to be efficient. Nature's Claim , Return to Dust , Disenchant , Natural State , Naturalize , etc. are all better.

Krosan Grip is sweet against some decks, don't get me wrong, however, is too specific and too high mana cost to be argued better than a Beast Within or Nature's Claim or Natural State .

Utter End is too high mana cost to be worth it. It is a worse Anguished Unmaking , another bad card, and is just too much to warrant using it over a card like Chain of Vapor , Swords to Plowshares , Nature's Claim , Dismember , or any of the other 1 cmc removal spells.

Putrefy / Mortify staples for price, not because they are good. For better options, look at the ones listed at Go for the Throat / Doom Blade or the ones listed at Sylvan Reclamation .

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Thoughts?

(BTW this was an April Fools, all of these cards can be good or bad in specific metagames or decks.)

Icbrgr on Grixis Challenge

7 years ago

Grixis Charm might be worth considering with its synergy with discard effects... target removal that gets around indestructible/4 toughness creatures...and psuedo Overrun with tokens from Young Pyromancer .

goblinguiderevealpls on Razin' minds, takin' names (competitive nekusar)

7 years ago

_Arra_,

what Soren841 said is correct. grixis as a color combination is severely lacking in enchantment removal as selesnya colors are where that is a mechanic. the best and perhaps only answers to enchantments are Counterspell s and bounce spells.

Chain of Vapor is a card that ive been trying to squeeze into mainboard for some time and i would recommend it for sure

Cyclonic Rift is a must have in this deck, it hard Answers almost everything and works stupdily well with wheels,

other answers you could run not seen here are Annul , Negate , Countersquall , Boomerang , Repeal , Void Snare , Disperse , Blink of an Eye , Cryptic Command , Into the Roil , Crosis's Charm , and Grixis Charm