Numot, the Devastator

Legendary Creature — Dragon

Flying

Whenever Numot, the Devastator deals combat damage to a player, you may pay (2)(Red). If you do, destroy up to two target lands.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

DemonDragonJ on How Can I Put Sunhome …

1 month ago

I would like to put Sunhome Guildmage into these two EDH decks, but I am not certain what cards I should remove to make room, for it. For my Gisela, Blade of Goldnight deck, it shall be an easy decision to replace Boros Charm with the guildmage, but I am less certain about my Numot, the Devastator deck, since replacing the charm with the guildmage would leave that deck with one fewer card that would synergize with Whirlwind of Thought and Wandering Mind, so I could possibly replace another card, with the guildmage, instead.

What does everyone else say, about this? How can I put Sunhome Guildmage into these two decks? I certainly would appreciate any feedback that you are able to offer, on this subject.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep These Cards …

1 month ago

TheoryCrafter, I actually have an EDH deck with Elsha of the Infinite as its general, and that deck is quite different from my Numot, the Devastator deck, and, at this moment, I feel that Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is perfectly fine, in that deck, so I shall keep him in it, for the present time.

As for Shared Summons, several other players to whom I spoke felt that it is superior to Primal Command, especially since the decks in which I wish to put it have a strong emphasis on creatures, and I rarely ever use the other modes.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep These Cards …

1 month ago

I have copies of Primal Command in several of my EDH decks, as it is an excellent card (in my mind, it is the second-best of the original five commands, after Cryptic Command *list*), but I am contemplating replacing those copies with other cards. First, in my Jenara, Asura of War deck, I am considering replacing Primal Command with Blossoming Bogbeast, since that deck has a strong focus on gaining life; in the other decks in which I have copies of Primal Command, I am considering replacing it with Shared Summons, since the newer card is an instant, rather than a sorcery, and searching for creatures is the mode that I use most frequently, anyway, so I certainly would appreciate any feedback, about that.

Also, I have copies of Grand Arbiter Augustin IV in these three EDH decks, and I shall certainly keep him in my Sen Triplets deck, since that is a dedicated control deck, but I am not certain about my Jenara, Asura of War deck or my Numot, the Devastator deck; I am considering replacing Augustin with Forgotten Ancient in my Jenara deck, since +1/+1 counters are the other major theme of that deck, and, while I do not wish for that deck to be too limited in what it can do, I also wish for it to be consistent and efficient. My Numot deck is essentially a jack-of-all-trades deck, so, perhaps, Augustin is not too unusual for it.

What does everyone else here say about this? Should I keep those cards in those decks, or should I replace them?

StopShot on Two rules change suggestions to …

1 month ago

[My EDH Background]

I used to be an avid EDH player until my old playgroup dissolved. It was only until recently that I built an EDH deck after more than half a decade and felt lost after two recent commander nights. I had dropped off after Hour of Devestation only to find the present-day meta feels like a completely different format than the one I had enjoyed. Seeing the prEDH format caught my attention but given I had gotten into EDH around Fate Reforged, the prEDH card restrictions seemed to dial things too far back for me, and I feel like a lot of players who got into EDH around the same time period as myself might feel the same way. As such, this format may feel just as alien to a good portion of left out players today, but I'd like to discuss if maybe that aspect could be improved upon.

[The New Phyrexia cut-off should not be extended]

I'd like to make two suggestions to adjust the scope of this format. One suggestion I will not ask though, is that the set cutoff point be extended past New Phyrexia. I agree with the rationale for excluding all of MTG that took place during and after the first commander preconstructed products were released. This is in place to make the format 100% organic and extending the cut-off to any other set would be highly arbitrary and subject to much disagreement.

[Issue #1 - OG Duals and Patchy Manabases]

But there are some issues that should be addressed and remedied regarding this format. One being at the time of New Phyrexia's release the monetary cost of OG dual lands were significantly cheaper then than as they are now. Given the best manabases for prEDH would use OG Duals, Fetchlands, and Shocklands, not having easy access to one (or more) of them puts non-legacy players in the rough spot of relying on prEDH's limited and patchy color-fixing options which can leave new decks performing at a more clunky pace than they otherwise would be if built back in New Phyrexia. Now I'm not against players using proxies but I think a format does a lot better at attracting a wider audience if they're not inclined to feel like they have to proxy reserve list cards to fully enjoy the format as intended.

[Rules Change Suggestion to Address Issue #1]

I believe that if there is a land or mana-rock cycle that started before New Phyrexia, but was completed sometime after New Phyrexia, then all cards of that cycle should be made legal in prEDH just so that all color identities have equal access to their colors, because prEDH has a surprising number of incomplete mana cycles. This change would make the following cards and their colorshifted counterparts legal in prEDH despite being printed after New Phyrexia: (Clifftop Retreat), (Inspiring Vantage), (Needle Spires), (Nomad Outpost), (Snow-Covered Wastes), (Stone Quarry), (Sunbaked Canyon), (Sunscorched Divide), (Talisman of Conviction), (Wastes), and (Wind-Scarred Crag). This rule would also still apply to any new cards that would complete any of the cycles that have yet to be completed as well such as if Wizards were to ever complete the cycles for (Crosis's Catacombs), (Grove of the Burnwillows), (Nimbus Maze), (Wildfield Borderpost), etc.

[Issue #2 - Lack of Color Identity Options]

One aspect that made EDH novel is its color restriction on deck-building. From its inception, you would pick any of 5 Elder Dragons to be your Highlander and you would be barred from utilizing whatever 2 colors were not part of that dragon's identity. As the game grew into commander you could pick any legendary creature to be your commander instead and the color restriction carried over to your commander's color identity. The issue is prEDH's list of legal commanders provides a very limited line-up of commanders for any multicolored identity. Some color identities only have 1 commander legal for that color identity, and a vast majority of legal commanders are mono-colored which imposes a much heavier restriction than EDH had first set out to be with its 3-color dragons. This can lead to an over-saturation of players picking the same commander from the limited multicolor roster and more players picking up 5-color commanders, because their favorite color combination is restricted to just Numot, the Devastator, or Oros, the Avenger, or Vorosh, the Hunter. This isn't to say there won't be players playing mono-colored or everyone will be playing Reaper King because their favorite color-combination is underrepresented, but that prEDH restricts cards not just by set, but also much more heavily with color as well which can result in a poorer deck diversity than modern day EDH; (an issue that was not present when Commander was a much smaller and niche format). It's to this end I feel color restrictions could be opened up a bit to counteract the set restriction as a trade-off and that by doing so with the EDH philosophy in mind won't warp or distort the power level or vibe of prEDH.

[Rules Change Suggestion to Address Issue #2]

In order to open up the commander color restriction, prEDH decks would have a land in the command zone in addition to the commander with this land serving as the "Commander's Domain." The color identity or basic land type of the Commander's Domain would set the color restriction on what cards can be included in the deck including the commander instead of it being the commander's color identity that restricts card inclusion. The lands that can be chosen to be your Commander's Domain consist only of: any of the 10 trilands such as Seaside Citadel, any of the 10 match-lands such as Glacial Fortress, or any basic land such as Plains or Wastes. The Commander's Domain would not be subject to the command tax and can be played as your land for turn by either exiling a basic land card from your hand or by exiling a basic land you own on the battlefield. One exception to this rule will be made for all 5-color legendary commanders. 5-color legendary creatures may be used as your commander regardless of your Commander's Domain and if your commander is 5-color you may run any basic land in your deck regardless of your Commander's Domain. Your Commander's Domain will still restrict what spells and non-basic lands you can include in your deck, however. This proposal seeks to expand deck diversity and creativity while still abiding to the original EDH tenant of limiting what colors may be included in your deck as well as provide an additional means of color fixing due to the greater lack of lands that are both decent and affordable in this format.

[Concluding Thoughts - The goal is not to make prEDH more like modern EDH]

The sake of these proposals isn't to make something new and flashy for the sake of making something new and flashy, but to make prEDH feel more like everyone's first EDH experience including for those who got into the format well after New Phyrexia but well before the current meta. That is not to say "make prEDH more like EDH" as that is the furthest thing from this thread's intention. This is more of a belief that a lot more can be gained while sacrificing very little and that much could benefit current prEDH players who would like to see more people play their format. It's possible my proposals may have missed this mark, but I would like to start a discussion on whether there are current shortcomings in this format and if it would be worth it to make changes to mitigate them or not to better the health and/or standing of this format.

DemonDragonJ on American Chaos [primer included]

4 months ago

I am almost afraid to suggest this, but did you consider Numot, the Devastator as the general, for this deck? I am an American, myself, and prefer to have a positive view of my nation, but I could not resist making that suggestion.

LunchBox1211 on Card creation challenge

2 years ago

Jay Tee Ell

Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct Pilot

Defender.

Vehicles you control have haste. Vehicles crewed by ~ gain trample.

Whenever a vehicle crewed by ~ deals combat damage to a player, untap ~.

Whenever ~ crews a vehicle, scry 2, then reveal the top card of your library. If it is a vehicle, put it in your hand. Then draw a card.

By taking inspiration from three famous Ovalchase Champions, an anonymous inventor created the undisputed master of the race track.

9/3

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JESKAI VEHICLES! Jeskai Angel Dragon tribal was another deck, but Numot, the Devastator can (kind of) fill that role. The same cannot be said about Elsha of the Infinite for vehicles. Elsha works, but not flavorfully.

Anyways, I'm building a Hope of Ghirapur deck, and I love the monarchy. Make a colourless enchantment named "Court of The Void" in the same style as the CMR "Court of" cycle. Court of Grace as an example.

JANKYARD_DOG on Jund vs Gruul

4 years ago

I think you made Numot, the Devastator cry by not including him in the conversation. XD

TDemers on The Ur-Companion

4 years ago

NeonEndymion

In: Dragonlord Silumgar - Out: Keiga, the Tide Star Clear upgrade.

In: Primevals' Glorious Rebirth - Out: Spell Rupture Cut a counterspell in favour of Primeval to recover from a board wipe instead of trying to prevent one.

In: Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - Out: Despark Moving the deck balance more towards asymetrical boardwipes instead of single target removals. Ugin and Primeval moved the average CMC to 4.0 which is quite high. I'll decide after some playtesting if Ugin should stay or not, maybe in favour of ramp like Skyshroud Claim

In: Return of the Wildspeaker - Out: Swords to Plowshares I can see Return of the Wildspeaker doing alot of work in this deck, 10 cards for 5 mana or a combat trick to close the game.

In: Urza's Ruinous Blast - Out: Ryusei, the Falling Star More reliable board wipe since I control when it happens and not my opponents.

In: Numot, the Devastator - Out: Steel Hellkite Improvement in color density to help synergize with Jegantha, Ramos and Morophon, white and blue needed the most help.

I left Niv-Mizzet Reborn in the deck for now, in goldfishing he usually draws me 1-3 cards which is not bad for a 5 colored mana dragon that can be cast with a simple Jegantha tap.

Down to 25 dragons, which is the lowest I want to go. I'd like to make room for Skyshroud Claim due to the higher average CMC and also still planning on adding Fire Covenant whenever I get my hands on it.