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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Choose two —
- Each opponent sacrifices a creature.
- Exile all cards from each opponent's graveyard.
- Create a 1/1 white and black Spirit creature token with flying.
- You gain 4 life.
Entwine (Choose all if you pay the entwine cost.)
2 weeks ago
Oh (bleep) you're right! LMAO. Like I said, I've been playing since Revised and have a LOT of decks. Always had a penchant for tribal knights (even though there have been/are better tribes for sure through the years). My Modern version does, in fact, run Giver of Runes. The Kor designation doesn't allow me to Cavern of Souls her in but I do run plenty of white sources. I'm sorry bud. 100% my bad. Sorry about that. I need to NOT drink my scotch and give advice. I just get soooooo excited when I see a solid knight tribal build I lose control.
I WILL post my ACTUAL MODERN legal version in the next few days. Giver of Runes is my only non-human or non knight creature in that deck. I run everything else human and/or knight in that deck-most are both. I announce my first Cavern of Souls as "knight" which prevents counter magic on all but the Giver of Runes and Noble Hierarch. Those both being (ideally) early drops-counter magic doesn't normally come into play.
My current, most regularly played, Modern deck is not knights (although I do play it still for a change of pace once in awhile but it's not my number one deck-hence my leading you astray). My current regular MODERN deck is as follows:
Deck: Greif Blade
Main: 4 Ephemerate 1 Poet's Quill 1 Batterskull 4 Giver of Runes 1 Sword of Fire and Ice 2 Plains 3 Godless Shrine 3 Concealed Courtyard 3 Skyclave Apparition 1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire 3 Tidehollow Sculler 2 Malakir Rebirth Flip 2 Charming Prince 1 Kaldra Compleat 1 Silent Clearing 1 Shriekmaw 4 Grief 3 Feign Death 4 Marsh Flats 1 Lion Sash 1 Flooded Strand 3 Touch the Spirit Realm 1 Swamp 1 Castle Locthwain 2 Agadeem's Awakening Flip 2 Solitude 4 Stoneforge Mystic 1 Verdant Catacombs
This is the list I run most frequently so it's the one I know best and have readily available to share. This is NOT a net-deck AFAIK. If there is an identical or similar list floating around in Cyberspace it's purely coincidental. This list was home brewed and is one of my favorites I've ever made through the years.
2 months ago
- Aura Shards + Mirari's Wake + Faeburrow Elder + Knight of Autumn + Knight of New Alara Eladamri's Call + Wildfield Borderpost
- Bard Class + Cindervines + Huntmaster of the Fells Flip + Klothys, God of Destiny + Radha, Heart of Keld + Xenagos, God of Revels + Decimate + Dire-Strain Rampage + Escape to the Wilds + Hull Breach + Firewild Borderpost
- Binding the Old Gods + Leyline Prowler + Windgrace's Judgment + Vraska, Golgari Queen + Culling Ritual + Maelstrom Pulse
- Hidetsugu Consumes All Flip + Kardur, Doomscourge + Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger + Olivia, Crimson Bride + Orcus, Prince of Undeath + Kolaghan's Command + Rakdos Charm + Dreadbore + Veinfire Borderpost
- Baleful Strix + Hostage Taker + Mistvein Borderpost
- Coiling Oracle + Rootcoil Creeper + Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath + Growth Spiral + Tamiyo, Collector of Tales + Bring to Light + Croaking Counterpart
- Elite Guardmage + Niambi, Esteemed Speaker + Soulherder + Faithful Mending + Fieldmist Borderpost
- General Ferrous Rokiric + Aurelia's Fury + Wear / Tear + Deafening Clarion + Solar Blaze
- Izzet Staticaster + Prismari Command + Expressive Iteration
- Despark + Fracture + Inkshield + Kaya's Guile + Merciless Eviction
- Fires of Invention + Ignoble Hierarch + Sylvan Caryatid + Blasphemous Act + Demonic Tutor + Farseek + Arcane Signet + Chromatic Lantern + Coalition Relic + Commander's Sphere + Panharmonicon + Tome of the Guildpact + Urza's Filter
3 months ago
I can normally get UU turn 2 but it's not 100% and delay is just in a spot where it's the next best 2cmc counter I think. A suggestion for something else that isn't dependant on my opponent's yard like Drown in the Loch or Anticognition is something I'd for sure look into.
UR Murktide was about 1/3 of the decks last week. It's legit insane. I don't run Rest in Peace purely because of my snap package and instead rely on my other cards to handle it in conjunction with my snaps being able to support it by flashing back a Kaya's Guile if I need to.
Your point here on Murktide Regent vs Shark Typhoon makes sense. I'll for sure keep that in mind as it hasn't been long since I added both of them to the list but I for sure see why I'd run Sharknado instead. I'll see how it plays both ways since I do already have murktides but only one Sharknado so I'd have to borrow other copies to test.
Burn isn't a part of my meta that was just an example of why it's there as there are situations where thaT concept is applicable. It's really a card that I probably should get rid of and I agree but I'm not quite sure what to replace it with.
I'm working on making a top list and I have looked at both UW and WUB control lists while making and editing this list. I know it'll take some tuning and a couple revisions more than I've done to get it solidly where I want it though. How would you feel about some changes that look like this?
-2 Murktide Regent
-2 Sunset Revelry
+4 Rune Snag
+1 Shark Typhoon
+1 Dovin's Veto/Archmage's Charm
3 months ago
Hi, I'm not sure if you have it set to follow this thread or not but idk how to tag you as I can't read your name.
Delay + Teferi, Time Raveler = an easier to cast Counterspell. It's here because running 3 colour UU can be unreliable on turn 2 and 3 so it being easier to cast is the main reason for it's inclusion. Drown in the Loch isn't run because I play in a graveyard matters meta and maindeck 5 cards that attack the graveyard.
Prismatic Ending is a really good card I can't dispute that but being sorcery speed and only able to hit up to 3cmc makes it hit or miss. If my opponent lands their own Murktide Regent then the only card I run that could kill it if I take out would be Path to Exile or Kaya's Guile assuming no other creatures on board. 3cmc is a low bar to be the max when things like Omnath, Locus of Creation and Murktide Regent are common at my store. If I took out my Anguished Unmaking I'd probably put in Vindicate over Prismatic Ending.
Shark Typhoon has it's main advantage being instant speed and dodging counters. Murktide Regent can however come in as a 2 mana 8/8 making it much more mana efficient and it has a mana cost so March of Otherworldly Light and Prismatic Ending both miss against murktide.
Sunset Revelry is pretty weak but it's well costed and if you get all three it's really good. Tbh I want something else that's incidental life gain in it's place but wasn't sure what to use. Life gain in control is really nice because while for the most part my life's doesn't matter until it's 0, if I'm at 3 against a red deck I need to hold up mana for a counter until the game is over. This might get turned into something like Absorb instead.
This deck is still new and I'm working on figuring out what is best and what's not but as it is in it's current iteration those are the reasons for my card choices.
3 months ago
DeVerbalen I didn't know they were making shard triomes already I'll for sure slot one or two in.
I don't run Drown in the Loch because my playgroup is pretty graveyard matters and I main 3 Kaya's Guile and 2 Kaya, Orzhov Usurper and they make drown bad. It was in the deck for a while along with Anticognition though.
I did mess with my removal suite a bit after some goldfishing and a couple games online. Murderous Rider was good but double black isn't easy to get quickly as I need to prioritize triple blue and black is the colour I have the least of by a large margin.
3 months ago
Depends on your budget on how much improvement you could add.
Some cheaper options I would try work in would Inquisition of Kozilek in place of Duress. You have decent removal spells to stall out the opponent but it could be lower to the ground. Lightning Bolt, Fatal Push, Path to Exile and Prismatic Ending are all really good one mana removal spells, and Damn fills two roles in one as a single kill ecfect for two or a wrath of god. Also, Kolaghan's Command and Kaya's Guile both offer a plethora of options that are always viable.
Moving on to some more expensive options, Thoughtseize is the iconic turn one black play and the best targeted discard Spell you can find in Modern. As mentioned before, Blood Moon is a great prison card that will literally just shut down the opponent from playing the game completely most of the time. Seasoned Pyromancer Could be a major powerhouse in a deck like this as well, as it filters your hand, fills up your graveyard and has easy potential to be a 3 mana 3 creature play.
Really like the Deck and hope it goes well for you!
4 months ago
Some other pretty notable cards in WUBR I think you should slot in:
Teferi, Time Raveler: No explanation needed
Lightning Bolt: Same as above
Mana Leak: Decent counterspell thats not too hard on the mana
Prismatic Ending: Same as above
Kaya's Guile: Really strong removal spell, should be maindeck imo (not just for grave hate)
Expressive Iteration: Busted card
Fire / Ice: Solid removal with all the x/1, can also cantrip and tap down a land or creature
The deck also seems kind of light on threats. I'm really not sure about this reanimation plan with only one archon, one persist, one unmarked grave. I think you also need Unburial Rites to make the gifts ungiven plan work, else they just put persist in the yard.
You could probably cut down on lands to 24 max. 27 is a lot. Baral and Ethersworn are pretty weird picks, the former not actually generating card advantage while the latter seems like a sideboard card. Crucible is also kind of weird. I like some of the spice like Ojutai's, but the land package just seems cuttable.
Here's my own lutri deck that I've played a bit with moderate success, maybe you'll find some of the card choices helpful.
4 months ago
The only cards that really leap out at me as missing are Kaya's Guile it's a solid utility that's always relevent. Personally I'd go for a 2/2 splits with esper charm.
If also strongly consider lingering souls (not ideal with hero but very good with faithful mending)