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Creature — Vampire
Flying (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach.)
Whenever a creature dealt damage by Sengir Vampire this turn dies, put a +1/+1 counter on Sengir Vampire.
Sengir Vampire Discussion
2 weeks ago
Baron Sengir is one of the most iconic vampires in this game (or, at least, he was, until Sorin appeared), but his card is rather lackluster, so I wanted to make a new card for him, as seen, below.
Sengir, Lord of the Night Show
Legendary Creature - vampire
Flying, lifelink, deathtouch.
Whenever a creature dealt damage by Sengir, lord of the night this turn dies, put a +1/+1 counter on each vampire that you control.
, pay 2 life: create a 1/1 black vampire creature token with lifelink.
, , pay X life: search your library for a vampire card with converted mana cost X and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
First, I decreased Baron Sengir’s converted mana cost, because I felt that eight mana was a rather high cost, so I also decreased his power and toughness to balance that. Since he has two abilities that require payment of life, I gave lifelink to both him and the vampire token that he generates. I am uncertain about deathtouch, since that is specifically supposed to be used on creatures with low power and toughness, but I shall leave him with it, for now.
I gave him a better version of the original Sengir Vampire ’s ability, one that affects all vampires, not merely the one that killed the creature.
His final ability would definitely be too powerful if it could be used repeatedly, so he must be tapped to use it.
What does everyone think of this card? Did I do a good job with it?
3 months ago
I can see it having a keyword, but likely not "mill" - the original card, Millstone might be the origin of the term, but the imagery clashes with the mechanic. I'd argue "Dementia X" or "Amnesia X" as the keyword would be more likely to be accepted.
That said, totally on board with it, and I've been saying so for a while. Wizards has a bad habbit of making new keywords for sets that don't need to exist.
Etwine, Escalate, Replicate, Overload, and Buyback are all fundamentally Kicker or Multikicker effects, except with a different keyword. Heck, if you errataed them as such, it would only alter some 5 cards or so that cared about the specific key word.
Flashback, Jump start, Recover, and Retrace are 4 flavors of the same mechanic, although one could argue Cypher fit here too.
Heck, "undergrowth" has cares about how many creatures you have in your graveyard, but doesn't have a consistant effect based on the resulting number.
Sunburst, Convergance, and Domain are 3 different mechanics that all care about how many colors you have.
Infect wouldn't have been a problem if they had kept it as Wither and Poisonous:X, but by combining the two they made pump spells = more poison.
On a similar vein, what about:
Grow: X as "put X +1/+1 counter(s) on (specificed) creature".
Example: Sengir Vampire would have "when a creature damaged by this card dies, Grow 1"
Decay: X as "put X -1/-1 counter(s) on (specificed) creature".
Example: Aboroth would read "Cumulative upkeep: Decay 1"
(not sure what to call this one): X as "enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters".
was thinking "emergance", but that's too close to "emerge" (which realistically, is just "creature offering" at sorcery speed)
granted, it wouldn't save that much space on most cards due to reminder text, but for rares it make for a load of condensed text.
3 months ago
- -1 Barren Moor +1 Azorius Signet
- -1 Lonely Sandbar +1 Dimir Signet
- -1 Tranquil Thicket +1 Gruul Signet
- -1 Forgotten Cave +1 Simic Signet
- -1 Secluded Steppe +1 Boros Signet
- -1 Azorius Chancery +1 Coalition Relic
- -1 Boros Garrison +1 Thran Dynamo
- -1 Dimir Aqueduct +1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- -1 Golgari Rot Farm +1 Wandering Fumarole
- -1 Gruul Turf +1 Raging Ravine
- -1 Izzet Boilerworks +1 Celestial Colonnade
- -1 Orzhov Basilica +1 Creeping Tar Pit
- -1 Rakdos Carnarium +1 Hissing Quagmire
- -1 Selesnya Sanctuary +1 Pentad Prism
- -1 Simic Growth Chamber +1 Riftwing Cloudskate
- -1 Mantis Rider +1 Duplicant
- -1 Psychatog +1 Thought Erasure
- -1 Drooling Groodion +1 Vraska, Relic Seeker
- -1 Ancestral Mask +1 Inferno Titan
- -1 Twisted Abomination +1 Exhume
- -1 Sengir Vampire +1 Animate Dead
- -1 Ravenous Rats +1 Unburial Rites
- -1 Spirit Mantle +1 Angel of Invention
- -1 Brood Butcher +1 Cloudgoat Ranger
- -1 Elephant Guide +1 Verdurous Gearhulk
- -1 Gladecover Scout +1 Terastodon
5 months ago
PlatinumOne Strawman Violation. Nobody was talking about zombies. The discussion was about vampires. Specifically, the claim that 'elf vampire' is an invalid creature type combination. Thus far, I have proved:
Wizards could create the 'elf vampire' type if it wanted.
No creatures have the creature type 'elf vampire'.
Creatures with art depicting elf vampires have the creature type 'vampire'.
This means they did not create any 'elf vampire' creatures, even though they had opportunity and cause. We conclude the current design guidelines forbid the 'elf vampire' and 'human vampire' creature type combinations.
You're nothing if not predictable, so I'll just finish the argument for you:
"But, muh Mirri the Cursed !"
This card was made prior to the grand creature type update. Even if it wasn't, it would still be the only creature card with art depicting a cat vampire, and it is legendary no less. It would seem that 'cat vampire' is so unusual that the extra type can be justified.
For contrast, human and elf vampires are so common, that the other type is not worth the mention.
"But, muh Vampiric Dragon !"
It is also worth noting here that Vampires for a long time prior to the great creature type update, were defined by Sengir Vampire 's ability, and all creatures with that ability had the type "Vampire" before "Vampire" was expanded from a simple mechanic-bound tribe (much like the recent Processor tribe).
But, in this case, vampirism among dragons is so rare that the extra type can be justified.
"But, muh Marauding Boneslasher !"
Irrelevant. We are discussing vampires. Zombies have their own rules.
"But, muh Frilled Mystic !"
Irrelevant. We are discussing vampires. Simic-themed cards have their own rules.
"But, muh Gifted Aetherborn !"
In this case, the flavor text makes it clear that they are not actually a vampire: their race is Aetherborn, and they drain the life out of living beings like a vampire would. This makes their class Vampire (notice how it occupies the traditional "class" part of the creature's type).
"A ha! So, an 'elf vampire' would be an elf who discovered a way to sustain their own existences at the cost of an insatiable hunger for the life essence of other beings."
If they were never bitten by a vampire to acquire their vampiric powers, then yes: this could be one way to justify the existence of an elf vampire, but their race would be elf and their class would be vampire.
"Ah, but that's still technically an Elf Vampire, so I have won an internet argument!"
Yes, you have successfully moved the goal posts far enough to find the single technical loophole. Your dishonest debate tactics have paid off. So, go ahead and land that aircraft on the carrier, President Bush: Mission Accomplished.
You earned it.
5 months ago
PlatinumOne The reason why "Elf Vampire" is invalid, is that once they become a vampire, they lose their previous species identity: This is the reason a vampire that was once an human is classified as a "vampire", not a "human vampire".
There are always the examples of the old cards that break the current rules, so yes, Irini Sengir is currently classified as a "Vampire Dwarf", as well as cards with the Sengir Vampire ability, like Mirri the Cursed or Vampiric Dragon .
Aetherborn are a special case, with vampires like Gifted Aetherborn , because the flavor text explains that Vampire is actually their job, not their species.
5 months ago
you got to many high costed cards that do nothing, don't have synergy or are straight up trash.
you dont have to read all of this... its a lot. eg: Fen Hauler (you have almost no artifacts) and you could replace it for Gurmag Angler , Steel Wall , Prakhata Club Security , Prizefighter Construct can be chump blocked and dies to anything, Pitiless Vizier how do you discard or cicle cards?, Sengir Vampire high cmc, Phage the Untouchable the same but its actually a neat card that you could make some jank deck (thanks for the idea), Nightmare trash, Night Market Guard trash too, Extractor Demon to high costed unless you have a way to trow it on the gy, Dread Defiler the same and does nothing really, Bloodhunter Bat trash, Demon of Wailing Agonies you dont have a commander, Haunted Plate Mail to high costed and you got too many creatures to even use it, Staff of the Death Magus not usefull, Cinder Barrens and Forsaken Sanctuary whats the point??.
uff dude, from what im looking its a deck you made from with the cards you had lying around, so you want to first have an idea of the game plan you wanna go to, a discard base control or aggro or reanimator and so on. or see what card you would want to work with and make the deck around it, when you do i can help you build the deck. just make a comment or hit me up idk.
7 months ago
Old School, ... :)
8 months ago
Damn, this is great stuff. Thanks! I'm heavily considering Arterial Flow now that you mentioned it.
By the way, the main reason I have Sengir Vampire in this deck is because as it stands he'd be my only flying creature and I absolutely need at least one. Frankly, it'd be great if I could have even more flying in there. On top of this, my deck is comprised of really weak creatures. This wouldn't necessarily be a problem if my initial goal of making a deathtouch deck panned out or if I had more than one way of buffing my creatures. He serves as my tanky boss creature, if you know what I mean.
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