Sheoldred, Whispering One
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Sheoldred, Whispering One

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor

Swampwalk (This creature can't be blocked as long as defending player controls a Swamp.)

At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that player sacrifices a creature.

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DreadKhan on Sauron, The Dark Lord Commander Deck

1 month ago

I feel like this deck should look pretty hard at Relic of Sauron, it's one of the best mana rocks for a Grixis deck, it also offers card draw and a discard outlet when you don't need the mana. I also feel like you might want more ramp, but I'm not sure I'd shave the land count too much further. I do have much higher average MV decks with similar land counts, they tend to run a lot of ramp though!

I've always liked the idea of evasive Changelings in this deck, the best being Changeling Outcast, but Mistwalker is also good, Mothdust Changeling less so but still interesting, evasion is really good on an Army in here. Taurean Mauler might be worth throwing in too, any of these is infinitely better than trying to use a token as the base for your army. Amoeboid Changeling can make any creature an army (to trigger Sauron). You might even try Maskwood Nexus, you can always choose not to wheel your hand away if you're happy with it (could be an issue if you're getting in with several armies in a turn).

Since Sauron discards your hand before he draws a new one you might want to look into some recursion effects, Black is very good at that kind of thing. Sheoldred, Whispering One is a nice easy-button recursion card that also hassles your opponents, but she is slow and a ton of mana, but you can reanimate her with something like Animate Dead or Reanimate. Since Sauron can make you a new token whenever someone casts a spell (if you don't already have one) you could use sacrifice based recursion effectively, Hell's Caretaker could do some work. These are just a few low hanging fruit, if you need a bunch more (or cheaper ones) I could probably rattle off more.

With this much built in discard you might look at the better Delve cards, Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time come to mind immediately, both are pretty good card draw if you don't have to pay any generic mana in.

Mask of Griselbrand can work well as a draw source, it also gives two useful abilities for an Army. Not sure if this is too out there, but you could try Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep and Shizo, Death's Storehouse, if you make an Army your Ringbearer it becomes Legendary, meaning these lands don't just help Sauron (but making Sauron unblockable is inherently good in a deck like this because he has 7 power and he's a 3 hit kill). Fear from Shizo is probably better than First Strike in most metas, but First Strike is a very useful effect. Rogue's Passage is a nice budget card that can let Sauron or an Army get in each turn. I really have enjoyed using Scavenged Brawler, it would be very good with your Commander (if he can get in twice he can kill someone, regardless of their life total), but it'll also be useful with a good sized Army token, those key word abilities are pretty sweet in my experience. Dauthi Embrace is a nifty old card that can be very sneaky, you can use it to help opponents get in, not just to protect your creature from blockers. If you plan to attack and are in Red you might benefit from Berserkers' Onslaught, double strike on your entire board can be a very powerful effect.

If you want a way to protect Sauron from most board wipes, I really love Gift of Doom, this gem of a card can be cast as a Morph for 3 mana, after which you can sacrifice a creature to attach the aura to a creature (note that this method doesn't target the creature it attaches to, so you can get around Shroud on your creature) at literally any time you have priority iirc. It's also not a spell or ability, so you can use it in response to something with Split Second. Indestructible is very good, but if you can get Deathtouch on a creature with trample it only takes 1 point of damage to 'destroy' any creature (regardless of whether or not it dies), the rest goes over, so it has great synergy with Scavenged Brawler (and other Trample sources). You can always cast it for 5 mana, and it's not a terrible card in that form, but the Morph effect is one of the best ways to protect an individual creature (or to turn your opponent's block attempt into a blood bath).

Finally, Mercadian Bazaar, Subterranean Hangar, and Saprazzan Cove are my spiciest ideas for a deck like this, I will take no offense if you laugh at them, but you might be surprised by what they can do in a deck with a 6 mana Commander. I use the first two as well as two Fallen Empires storage lands (which I wouldn't encourage you to use unless you want gray hair) in my Rakdos deck, I play them as ramp cards, and it's openly hilarious how useful they can be if you really want to cheese out a big Commander (or recast them repeatedly).

Hope some of this brainstorming is helpful, Sauron is a pretty strong Commander that attracts a fair bit of attention afaik.

wallisface on Rona, herald of invasion and …

1 month ago

If your Commander is anywhere that is not the Battlefield, only the front face exists. However, if it is on the battlefield and transformed, only the back face exists.

So, in the case of Sheoldred, Whispering One, you’ll only get to scry if Rona is on the battlefield and transformed. Note that while Rona is transformed this way, she’s not a “human”, so you won’t be able to scry off any humans you cast.

Also note that if your Commander is in a Hidden Zone, Path of Ancestry can't "see" it so it will not know what creature types it has. In that case, you won't scry no matter what you cast.

koylucumert on Rona, herald of invasion and …

1 month ago

lets say rona is my commander and I have a path of ancestry in play. when I use that path to cast Sheoldred, Whispering One (who is erratad to be a phyrexian), do I get to scry since rona is a phyrexian on the back side? does the answer change if I have ronas backside on the battlefield as I cast the sheoldred?

NV_1980 on Immaculate Resurrection Insurrection

3 months ago

Would Hell's Caretaker fit? Also, I'm thinking Sheoldred, Whispering One would make a lot of sense.

vinylghost on Leveling Up like a Pro(liferate)

5 months ago

Made an account just to say I really like this, was looking for a relaxed pre-made to play with some friends and it looks good! To try and give some consistency (and knowing who I'm playing against lol), I took some of the recommendations from wallisface and fully dropped Experimental Augury for the three recommended, in varying quantities, as well as Murder. I dropped a handful of the level ups (specifically, three of Beastbreaker of Bala Ged and two of Joraga Treespeaker, and a couple other changes like moving Echo Mage up from the Maybeboard), and added Sheoldred, Whispering One for a bit of pressure that doesn't require a bunch of mana dumping after-the-fact. Will be testing it here shortly in a multiplayer game, and would love to know any changes you've made that may give me some more insight, as a casual player who tends to miss seemingly obvious cards.

HahaStax on Kamiz and Friends from Outerspace

6 months ago

Hi! Instead of running Burial Rites or Victimize, try filling those slots also with creatures. Kamiz cares about big beaters that do great things when they connect/attack. Sun Titan is a great one and you've already got it in, great! Here some suggestions: Guardian Scalelord, Archpriest of Shadows, Junji, the Midnight Sky and Sheoldred, Whispering One though this ones more on the saltier side. With Kamiz you are discarding a lot. My advice would be to run one or two graveyard protection spells. Cheap examples are Enhanced Surveillance and Campfire.

Mattio38 on Dihada's Harem of Heroic Hooligans

9 months ago

Awesome deck my man! And thanks again for your comment on my Dihada deck. (I can't seem to insert a working link here the way that you did xD)

You clearly run way more cool creatures than I do. Do you win a lot with this deck in your meta? And what are your winconditions? I mean, I guess it's mainly beatdown with awesome legendaries ofc, but are there specific combos or interactions between cards which gains you wins?

Also, when it comes to suggestions, I think Blasphemous Act can be cool as it wipes the board but leaves your commander AND your target of her +2 ability in place for (usually) just 1 mana. And another great include could be Sheoldred, Whispering One. I mean, it's kinda obvious, but it does everything Dihada wants to do. It's fetchable with her -3 and it's a great target for her +2. It gets other stuff from her -3 in play at the beginning of your upkeep and that's a big... eh... +1!

DreadKhan on EDH Merens Reanimator

10 months ago

In my Meren deck, I don't run a lot of bigger creatures, even though the deck has decent odds of ending up with huge amounts of mana, stuff like Beast Whisperer/Grim Haruspex draw cards off of creatures either entering or leaving the battlefield, there are lots of variants of both of those effects, and these will let you play many spells in a turn, rather than play one huge thing. I don't think your MVs are a huge problem, but the 'top of my curve' creatures are Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Protean Hulk, and Sheoldred, Whispering One, the first two can win on the spot or very quickly, while Sheoldred is a bit more questionable, a lot of people find stuff like Sheoldred tends to be too slow in todays game, so even that is a card I'm considering switching out for lower to the ground stuff. I checked and atm I have 14 1 drops, which is a few more, there are plenty of decent 1 drop mana dorks you could throw in to both lower your curve and possibly raise your consistency, though the best is Elves of Deep Shadow, since your deck cares more about Black mana.

As a general rule of thumb for Meren, if you can do a thing with a creature instead, you probably should unless the creature option is truly awful, I run 55 creatures in the 99, and I'm still thinking about sneaking more in by taking out things like Artifacts. Creature payoffs are better than artifact payoffs in Golgari, and Meren can't recur non-creatures.

For sac outlets, you ideally want a selection of 'free' sac outlets, ones that only use a creature and no other input, so stuff like Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Woe Strider, any of the good altars (Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, and Altar of Dementia are my all very good), Sadistic Hypnotist is insanely useful (it is a 5 drop though), if you have 4 drops that matter you can use Dimir House Guard because Transmute is a good mechanic if you care about the MV and it's also a free sac outlet. I think you can throw in a few sac outlets that are more limited, stuff like Helm of Possession, Phyrexian Tower, Hell's Caretaker, Altar of Bhaal, and Ritual of the Machine are all beefy effects, even if you can only use them once per turn. I really like stuff like Sakura Tribe Elder because the card provides it's own sac outlet (but only for itself), ymmv but I think you're taking a risk by running something like Solemn Simulacrum over Dawntreader Elk or Diligent Farmhand, 4 mana is a ton and it lacks a self destruct feature.

One option some people end up taking is replacing Meren as the Commander, not because she isn't strong enough but because the play patterns are pretty consistent, once you've figured out what your deck is trying to do, Meren is usually very predictable, so some people prefer something like Baba Lysaga, Night Witch. She offers card draw and a sac outlet in the Command zone while caring a lot less about creatures in particular, so you'd have more freedom in terms of card types.

Hope some of this is helpful!

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