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Sheoldred, Whispering One
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Swampwalk (This creature can't be blocked as long as defending player controls a Swamp.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that player sacrifices a creature.
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1 month ago
Aside from Reaping the Graves and Extinction, it looks like everything here is modern legal. If you're looking for modern replacements for these cards, I'd consider Empty the Catacombs for the former since it synergizes with Leyline of the Void, and Plague Engineer for the latter because it's just good at dealing with most tribal strategies. That being said, there's no real reason to be returning cards from graveyard to hand instead of the battlefield since you have no on-cast triggers. In casual, I really like Hell's Caretaker as a way to turn a Reassembling Skeleton into a Sheoldred, Whispering One, Razaketh, the Foul-Blooded, or something similarly silly. You could always go with more traditional reanimator cards like Reanimate and Animate Dead though. Either way, I'd probably up the creature count and run a few less full board wipes.
2 months ago
Wickked yeah it is a bunch of fun. It'd be more fun if I could test play it more regularly. Ahaha.Im still undecided on the value of Professional Face-Breaker and Atsushi, the Blazing Sky they are sitting in the boulder along with Gamekeeper, Shivan Devastator, Junji, the Midnight Sky, and Sheoldred, Whispering One.
2 months ago
Love this deck! I think Hidden Stockpile would be a good fit, and if you can find place for a 5 cmc enchantment Spirit-Sister's Call would be on theme. Also… Sheoldred, Whispering One!!! Aaaaaggghhh!!!
2 months ago
I have a RG tokens deck with Thromok the Insatiable as commander. The idea of the deck is a simple go wide with small tokens approach and maybe make use of a few select creatures with devour if given the chance. It's not meant to be high power level and I like how it plays right now.
One main issue though is that one player in our group has a mono black good stuff/toolbox deck that has Massacre Wurm that pretty much shuts my deck down when he gets it, which he does fairly often because he runs a couple of tutors coupled with black's good card draw. He also has the option of recurring it from the graveyard as black decks usually do + he runs Sheoldred, Whispering One as his commander.
I'm now left wondering: what card/s, if any, does RG have access to that can help me to at least not instantly fold to Massacre Wurm? The wurm is the main example because it can handily wipe my board of small tokens while destroying my life total in the process but general tips for board resilience and token support are also appreciated.
For reference, here is the deck in question
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 1 | 135 VIEWS | IN 2 FOLDERS
3 months ago
Hey, if you want to stop No Mercy then consider Cathar Commando? It's a budget creature so it can be reanimated or recurred with Liesa, Forgotten Archangel as well as other ways which I will mention in my next comment :)
If your getting Jumpstart packs there's several cards to look for other than Exquisite Blood:
- Witch of the Moors
- Phyrexian Reclamation
- Sheoldred, Whispering One
- Blood Artist
- Selfless Savior
- Speaker of the Heavens
- Phyrexian Tower
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir
I believe in using my money getting singles to build my decks not on $5 packs, but if you enjoy cracking Jumpstart packs look for these cards. Selfless Savior and Blood Artist are uncommons, you might have these cards.
If you're interested in Exquisite Blood then maybe you want to make your deck more combo? I don't think Exquisite is worth $18 since with $18 you can make several upgrades not just one card. For $18 you can make close to 20 card upgrades. Even if you're playing casual having a combo to win the game is helpful. Just don't combo off right away, let the game build up, have fun and then boom.
- Vizkopa Guildmage
- Children of Korlis
- Bond of Agony
- Tainted Sigil
- Mischievous Poltergeist/Wall of Blood
- Revival / Revenge(Revenge)
There's no budget alternative card for Exquisite Blood, but you can mimic the outcome of what the Blood combo does with budget cards. By making yourself lose a lot of life and then gaining the life you lost right back.
Vizkopa Guildmage's ability is like Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose/Sanguine Bond except it's more powerful because it affects each opponent all at once not just one opponent. It however costs three mana to have the effect until end of turn. The combo is to cast a spell or activate an effect to lose a lot of life such as Bond of Agony where you can control how much life you lose which then makes each opponent lose that same amount of life. When you lose the life then sac either Children of Korlis or Tainted Sigil to gain all that life back. This then triggers Guildmage to make each opponent lose that same amount of life again, most likely killing each of your opponents for having 0 life and you win the game.
Children of Korlis is a good card for gaining life because it looks at all life you lose for the entire turn. You can gain a lot at one time after a big attack from opponent doing combat damage to you or a small amount, you choose. It's a one drop creature who can be reanimated or recurred to repeat this effect, great with Liesa, Forgotten Archangel. Outside the combo if you're paying a lot of life for draw such as with Greed then Children can help to gain that life back.
In my last comment I mentioned you can get quality from filler creature cards you play with Infantry Veteran as example of not quality. Children of Korlis and Selfless Savior are examples of quality budget one drops. Mischievous Poltergeist/Wall of Blood's ability can be paid as much as you want, each time losing 1 life, but it's not a good card outside the combo. I suggested it because it's a creature who can be easily reanimated or recurred which can be helpful to more easily combo or repeat the combo. If I was playing this combo I would play it for that reason.
I'll continue with more advice in another comment later.
3 months ago
I just saw your list yesterday while I was scrolling through the site, and wanted to say I find it all so charming! I love decks hungry to consume their own creatures and use them as fuel. Korvold, Fae-Cursed King, Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis, or even K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, are commanders that just keep on giving as long as you throw bodies into the furnace so to speak. It's a delight to get their engine rolling, and I've always wanted to build a Tergrid, God of Fright Flip or Sheoldred, Whispering One deck.
If you planned on using Sheoldred still, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is both flavorful and helps turn all of your opponents' lands into swamps, allowing sweet unblockable commander damage. I've never really left a comment on this site, but looking at this deck list makes me want to show my K'rrik deck some extra love. Props dude, I'm gonna love following this deck's progress.
While it's on my mind, something that might help, using Poison the Cup for its foretell may add to 4 mana, but it lets you store a Murder outside of your opponent's influence and lets you scry off the top, allowing you to search for lands, or more removal/creatures to send to grave; and if you might be looking for more mass recursion to your library (whether to avoid Rest in Peace or similar effects, Gravepurge is another way to draw whichever creature you might have planned on saving.
Bolas's Citadel may be pricy on mana, but it mass sacs, and after a Bone Harvest or Gravepurge could allow you to just rebuild your board with your life total. Anyhow. I love this deck, apologies for the long winded comment.
3 months ago
Lim-Dul's Vault - Solid card for searching your deck for a specific card. Red Elemental Blast - Cheap blue counter spell or blue permanent destruction if your pod has a lot of blue players. Tergrid, God of Fright Flip - replace Sheoldred, Whispering One as tergrid combos better with your commanders ETB effect. while getting you advantage to boot.
3 months ago
Really appreciate the feedback QuiteFrankly13!
I've purchased a lot more cards in the last week or so, including Chainer, Dementia Master and Woe Strider. Luckily, I already had a Carrion Feeder laying around, so he's made the cut as well. I've played this a few times now and it's for sure coming down to being able to strike a balance between pulling from the graveyard, and actually getting stuff in there. The biggest hurdle I hit my first two games was just getting cards from the deck to the graveyard fast enough. So, I also ended up adding / replacing some cards with ones that would mill the deck, or allow me to draw/discard, or even better yet, place straight from the deck to the graveyard. I've also been thinking about trying out Meren of Clan Nel Toth, as they seem to be a more effective commander for this type of deck. Additionally, they maybe stand a lower chance of upsetting all 3 others. Unlike Sheoldred, Whispering One who might become too much of a target since they force everyone else to sac creatures.
Thanks again for the help. Hopefully I'll have the (at this point) version 2 of this deck up sometime in the next few days after I get a few more rounds in to make sure it's working out at least somewhat better than before.