Guttural Response

Guttural Response


Counter target blue instant spell.

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Guttural Response Discussion

Grubbernaut on What is Your Opinion of …

1 month ago

In non-standard sets, and for very specific uses, I'd say I'm okay with it. The blasts and Guttural Response seem 'right,' to me. Deflecting Swat is probably the least red-feeling type of effect like this, IMO.

I think a white Spell Pierce would be neat, and justifiable. White could also play with "return spell to hand" or tucking effects, too, for my take.

DemonDragonJ on What is Your Opinion of …

1 month ago

Counterspells are a signature ability of blue, and, as such, nearly all counterspells are blue, but WotC does print non-blue counterspells on occasion; there were a number of non-blue counterspells in the early days of this game, before WotC had clearly defined the color pie, but, now that the color pie is better defined, there have been very few non-blue counterspells in recent years.

WotC did print Tibalt's Trickery in Kaldheim, but, prior to that, there had not been a non-blue counterspell since Lapse of Certainty from the Alara block, to the best of my knowledge, so it is clear that WotC is very reluctant to print such cards. Mark Rosewater has even said that he considers both Red Elemental Blast and Guttural Response to be color pie breaks and that white can having "taxing" effects (i.e., making spells more expensive), but not direct counterspells, which I severely dislike, since I believe that non-blue counterspells can be acceptable if they are extremely narrow in their effect.

What does everyone else say about this? What are your opinions of non-blue counterspells? Do you think that such cards should exist, or that counterspells should be strictly blue?

plakjekaas on How is Red Elemental Blast …

1 month ago

The color pie does accomodate for enemy colors. Philosophically so. One way to justify the corner cases discussed in this thread: Green, the color of life, adaptation and growth is not just opposed to black in the color wheel, it's also thematically opposed to self-interest,sacrifice and death. That's why green gets Lifeforce. Not because green usually counters spells, but because green mages diametrically oppose black mana and its users, and grab any available tool to assist them in their crusade against their black mage enemy. That's also how Pyroblast came to be, impulsive and emotional red's desire to eradicate the cold, logical, deceitful blue out of their world. Guttural Response has similar flavor. Those color hosers are still printed, even to this day. Although since Rosewater is in charge, the effects are a lot more in line with what we expect from the colors; think Divine Smite or Burning Hands.

The power of a card or its impact on a format says nothing about their fit into the color pie though, I'm not sure how the discussion drifted that way.

Chaos Warp is very red, in the sense of: "I don't care what happens to me or the rest of the world, I need to get rid of this thing, and I need it gone now! Just transform it into something else and let's hope we can deal with that." Is exactly the short-sighted, impulsive way of thinking that red is known for. Warp World deals with enchantments too, in pretty much the same way, yet that one is never brought up in conversations about color pie breaks.

DemonDragonJ on How is Red Elemental Blast …

1 month ago

Omniscience_is_life, RyuSama420, I actually dislike Chaos Warp and think that it should never have been printed, or at least it should not be allowed to target enchantments, because red is not supposed to be able to directly deal with enchantments.

Also, as long as we are discussing this subject, how do you feel about Blue Elemental Blast and Guttural Response? Do you feel that those are color pie breaks, as well? To answer my own question, I feel that they are so narrow that they are acceptable, but I am not certain who may agree with me about that.

Skagra42 on Are we seeing a shift …

1 month ago

plakjekaas Guttural Response and Lifeforce are color pie breaks. Veil of Summer isn't a counterspell.

plakjekaas on Are we seeing a shift …

3 months ago

Green counterspells? Like Bind or Lifeforce? Maybe Veil of Summer? Guttural Response? Green dabbles in countermagic about as much as it does haste, meaning sporadically, but ever since the very early years of magic.

berryjon on Top 5 Counterspells Of All …

4 months ago

Naksu, you're thinking of Mana Tithe . There's also Guttural Response , which I used to beat up Cryptic Command when both were in Standard.

Mannu_1978 on Boros Nahiri

6 months ago

Grids without Simians may not be the best anymore. Against UW and the like, maybe here cutting chalices for 4 Guttural Response , or Ricochet Trap fits better now.

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