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| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
All is Dust
Tribal Sorcery — Eldrazi
Each player sacrifices all coloured permanents they control.
kpres on Commander Deckbuilding Advice - A …
4 days ago
I have some deckbuilding advice. I'll make it concise:
The Three Problems
Your goal is to play a winning combination of cards before your opponent can do the same. To do this, you need to draw the right cards, be able to cast them, and do this faster than your opponent despite their efforts to stop you. These are the Three Problems your deck is trying to solve. It is tempting to fill your deck with only cards that work towards a build-around commander, but if you do, you'll have 4 or 5 mana available on turn 6, you won't be able to stop your opponent's threats, and you won't be drawing the cards you need. Follow the quantity recommendations below to deal with the Three Problems and still get to play your strategy.
Include 28 lands, plus 2 for each color, plus the average mana cost of your deck. So for a typical 3 color deck, you're looking at 39-ish lands.
Include 10 cards that let you deal with threats at instant speed. Every opponent uses artifacts, enchantments, and creatures, and you often need to disrupt a combo that's about to go off when it's not your turn.
Include 10 cards that net you more cards. With a high density of card draw spells, you are more likely to draw into your next draw spell and never run out of things to do.
Include 10 cards with low mana cost (3 or less) that give you more mana. Generally for every 2 mana rocks above this number that cost 0 to 2, you can cut one land.
Include up to 5 "win-more" cards, not more. These are cards like Doubling Season that are only good when your deck is already doing what it's supposed to do.
Include 1-2 spells that serve as a big finisher that works even when you're losing. Examples: Rise of the Dark Realms, Insurrection, Expropriate, Primal Surge, or Overwhelming Splendor.
Include 1 card that hurts decks that use the graveyard, such as Tormod's Crypt.
Include 1 card that recycles your graveyard, especially if it can be played from the graveyard or activates when milled. Gaea's Blessing is a good one. Feldon's Cane is especially good if you are using your graveyard and you would rather have your graveyard be in your library than exiled by someone's Bojuka Bog.
Include 1 board wipe, but it must fit the theme of your deck and break parity. For example, All is Dust when you're playing colorless, Living Death when you're playing reanimator, Hour of Reckoning when you're playing tokens, Cyclonic Rift in blue, etc. The more one-sided, the better.
Include 20 creatures, at least 10 of which can be played by turn 3. Some of these cards can double as your removal, ramp, or draw, or strategy cards. Having creatures prevents you from taking opportunistic early combat damage, and helps you recover quickly after a board wipe. Creatures with ETB effects are more valuable when you can blink or reanimate them.
Include 20-30 cards that work with your deck's strategy. It seems like not enough, but when you include more than this, you're cutting removal, draw, or ramp, which are all necessary for dealing with the Three Problems. Also don't forget that when you have enough card draw, you'll have access to most of these strategy cards.
Licecolony on
Goaded With The Sauce
1 month ago
I really like your manifest take on Jon. Consider Dulcet Sirens. It's a clever way to mitigate risk of having those horrible creatures for yourself. I'll definitely be adding Crawlspace and Endless Whispers to my list.
Suggested removals from deck Plague Reaver. While it's a nice card to give away, the turn you play it you'll have to sacrifice Jon Irenicus to Plague Reaver's trigger regardless of which order you put the abilities onto the stack. You'd rather not lose Jon.
Gisa, Glorious Resurrector. It's something you can't give away, which means it's good when you're ahead, but not great when you're behind,. Your mileage may vary, but I think getting something more immediately impactful on the board tends to be best.
Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker. You're not running a mill strategy, you'll only be filling the graveyard of dedicate graveyard decks.
Taniwha. I love this creature and totally understand running it for the memes, but phasing triggers before your upkeep, which means that when you give it away, it'll be phased out for the first turn under your opponent, so they'll keep their lands and you won't draw a card from Jon's ability. The turn cycle has to make two full rounds before Taniwha does anything.
Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip. Unlike Sheoldred, Tergrid doesn't make the opponent do either of its effects. It's another creature you don't want to give away, and Jon makes cards unsacrificeable. It just won't trigger much unless you're against a sacrifice deck.
Ensnaring Bridge. The creatures you donate will often be quite big. Ensnaring bridge will prevent them from attacking your opponents and deny you card draw.
Chromatic Lantern. It's only good if you need the mana fixing. You don't need the mana fixing. Try something like Thought Vessel or Decanter of Endless Water or Midnight Clock instead.
Assault Suit doesn't goad the creatures itself. Often they'll swing at you if possible.
Dissipation Field. Not as good as it looks. Doubles ETB triggers. Anti synergy with cards like Endless Whispers.
No Mercy Jon just has better options for this slot. If you can replace a non-creature with a creature in this deck, you usually want to.
Grave Betrayal. That's 7 mana for a card that could ruin your game by forcing you to revive bad cards you do not want.
Diplomatic Immunity. You want instant speed protection and protection from board wipes. Something like March of Swirling Mist is more versatile offensively and defensively.
Dark Ritual. I'm uncertain what you're trying to ramp into so quickly that you would need this. Maybe I'm wrong.
Countersquall. You may as well play the one mana version in An Offer You Can't Refuse.
Redirect may be bested by Narset's Reversal? That's a matter of opinion.
AEtherize risks bouncing creatures attacking other opponents such as those you've goaded but want them to keep. Try replacing this with a more versatile effect like Reins of Power or a more aggressive effect in Illusionist's Gambit.
Damnation. Jon prefers sacrifice board wipes so that your opponents keep their shit creatures.
Overall I think you could run less counter-magic in favor of more proactive effects.
Cards to Consider Creatures Generally I want to focus on adding creatures that you can give away and then steal back later to win the game.
With Jon, you often want cheap evasive creatures to give out for early card draw with his ability. Right now you have 1 two-drop creature. Throwing in a Changeling Outcast or a Slither Blade can mean you can give a creature away for cheap and still hold up mana for other things. Slither blade wouldn't die to Heartless Summoning too.
In the two-drop slot, you can run creatures that are more defensive like Baleful Strix, or give you card draw like Sygg, River Cutthroat or just more powerful creatures like Flesh Reaver which is a goaded 6/6 that can deal 12 damage a turn or Wretched Anurid. Heck, you can even add a versatile two-drop in Dimir Infiltrator which can be given away in the early game or used as a tutor in the late-game.
In the three drop slot, I think your idea of adding Steel Golem is a great one to make sure the only creatures your opponent has are the ones you're giving them. It's a brutal card. Rotting Regisaur is a card you don't mind giving away early, and can take back later to win. Phyrexian Soulgorger can be donated to an opponent as a goaded 10/10. They won't have to pay the upkeep, but that's a great body to give someone as a political tool. Cephalid Facetaker is also worth consideration though I personally don't run it.
In the four-drop slot, like you mentioned, Grid Monitor is a proactive creature counter. Abyssal Persecutor can save you from death. Archfiend of the Dross is risky but fun (it comes back to your control after the opponent dies).
In the 5-drop slot, both of the evil-eye cards are absolute ALL STARS. They work so well every game I've drawn them. They can also replace some of your weaker defenses like No Mercy and Dissipation Field
As a sidenote, I also like Deep-Sea Kraken as an unblockable 8/8 that can win you the game with homeward path.
Removal I recommend running more sacrifice-based removal since it'll mean your opponents keep the crap you give them. Things like Tergrid's Shadow or Vona's Hunger or All is Dust (one of my favorites) or Killing Wave. I also prefer Toxic Deluge to some of your other removal since it goes through hexproof. Curse of the Swine is also an exile effect that can be selective and works really well. You can also run single-target removal like Reality Shift or Pongify if you'd rather instant speed interaction. Feed the Swarm is quality. If you really don't care about cruelty, you can run Torment of Hailfire, but that card is honestly always too boring for me to want in my decks.
Card Draw Jon has access to some great card draw that most decks can't take advantage of. Fateful Handoff is a card draw spell that also donates (though does not goad). Sygg, River Cutthroat works well with evasive threats you give away (though should not be donated). Verity Circle works great with Jon's ability since it donates the creature first, and then taps it down. Teferi's Ageless Insight allows you to double your draw triggers from Jon.
Equipment Remember that you can donate creatures while they're equipped and you still control the equipment so they can't re-equip it. Pact Weapon makes the attacking creature bigger, while ensuring you can't die, and will draw you another card whenever the donated creature attacks. Dowsing Dagger  Flip works effectively on evasive creature to get you ramped. Vorpal Sword is a win condition on your unblockable evasive creatures.
Goad Dulcet Sirens, Bloodthirsty Blade.
Misc Graveyard removal is king. Throw in a Scavenger Grounds. My favorite card to run is Reality Shift. Make an Avenger of Zendikar spawn a dozen Wretched Anurids. It's not GREAT, but it is always funny. Cultural Exchange is a fun time too with all your manifest and shitty creatures.
That is all. Hope it was helpful.
TypicalTimmy on A Discussion of Staples
2 months ago
We all know that certain cards are staples in this format, such as Sol Ring and Mana Crypt if it is affordable. However staples also have a little bit of fluidity in that they have color restrictions. If you are playing a deck that contains and you are not playing Necropotence, you are running decidedly below your potential.
Unfortunately cards such as Crypt and Potence are very expensive, so not all players can have them.
In this thread, I'm not so much focused on the financial aspect, but the physical aspect.
I'd like to ask, what makes a staple? Now yes, casual play and competitive play are two different beasts. Competitive decks will be leagues behind if they lack specific cards, whereas casual decks will be slightly hindered but not really all that far off. Especially if there is a budget the friends adhere to.
Let's take for example Lightning Bolt. It is both financially cheap and resourcefully cheap as well. It is instant speed and works wonders as removal. Unfortunately, in many cases, it doesn't serve a great enough impact to win the game. Yes it can take down something such as a Thassa's Oracle or bolt a Sorin Markov so the opponent can't -3 you immediately. However, in the majority of plays, it serves as little more than a bump in the road to victory. Meanwhile, a card such as Path to Exile sees far fewer targets, but it'll remove that massive gargantuan 15/15 Ramos, Dragon Engine or Edgar Markov. So while Path has fewer total available targets then Bolt, it's impact is far greater and more disruptive.
- (Although I prefer Swords to Plowshares. I'd rather give my opponent some life that will be gone in a turn or two, then a land of their choosing that they keep for the rest of the game.)
Similarly, a really good card in terms of mechanics is Scour from Existence. What hinders it is the mana value of . If it cost less, I'd expect to see it slotted into nearly every deck. The same applies to All is Dust. Yes, Wrath of God and Damnation are superior in that they cost less, however they also do less and are restrained to their own colors.
Mechanics, timing, color restrictions... These all play a role in what becomes a staple, and what doesn't.
So I'm curious, what are some staples across EDH that people know of, and do you have any opinions on what cards SHOULD be staples, that currently aren't?
Alesamuel on
Equipment
2 months ago
In Oathbreaker rules, your signature spell needs to fall within your commander's color identity. Since Channel is green, it can't be your signature spell if your commander is Karn, Scion of Urza since Karn is colourless. A better suited Signature Spell would be All is Dust or another colorless spell.
TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge
5 months ago
I know they are nondescript enchantments, but since the challenge is a new card type (not subtype, not supertype. But card type), I'm going to do the sin and make it it's own.
Leyline of Passion
Leyline
Red spells you control cost less to cast. They cost an additional less to cast if there are no other colors in their identity.
Red planeswalkers you control enter the battlefield with an additional loyalty counter.
Jaya's sacrifice was felt across the multiverse by those who shared her spark. And those who felt her passion, felt her pain the most.
God it would be a pain in the ass to remove these. You'd need a card such as All Is Dust or Utter End. That alone makes these unbelievably far too powerful. But, it meets the challenge criteria.
You guys and gals remember the Army thing from War of the Spark? God I hated that "mechanic". A single creature being super big is cool and all, but an entire "Army" represented by a single token? So my puny little 1/1 can thematically block your hoard of 10,000 zombies strong? Yeah, no. I disliked that, very much so.
Make a card that reimagines the Army subtype.
Profet93 on
Tergrid, God of Fright
5 months ago
Epiitaph +1
You mentioned you are getting contamination. Should you be inclined, Infernal Darkness is worth considering as well.
Deserted Temple - Untap utility land + politics
Syphon Mind - Draw 3, each opponent discards 1, for 4 mana and low $. Worth considering. I would put this in over consuming vapors as with vapors, they can usually play around it, although perhaps in this build it isn't as bad given all of your redundancy. Although, given your redundancy, you probably don't need it. If you don't want to add in syphon mind, then TheOfficialCreator's suggestion of barter in blood is definitely better IMO than consuming vapors. Another potential cut is solemn simalcrum as it is too slow, does not ramp you on curve and the draw is negligible. I understand the synergy, but 4 mana is too costly IMO. Sad robot is better suited to decks that can't ramp as hard as mono black.
Also, regarding Torment of Hailfire, the idea is that you destroy their board + hand enough so that they lose life and just, lose. Or, you can use it to decimate them and then win the following turn. I think it's better in a build that can more reliably assemble what I call "Big Black Mana," aka Coffers + Urborg. Deserted temple helps in this regard. I would also cut cabal stronghold as in my experience, it is subpar, especially for a higher powered deck like Tegrid. Usually newer players use it if they can't afford urborg + coffers.
Mind Twist - While only effecting one opponent, it can seriously ruin someone's day. Especially given how one opponent usually is able to stay ahead of the death and destruction that control decks dish out, this can help put them back in their place. Not to mention, bait counterspell, ramped into with ritual + rocks early game to effectively lock someone out of the game for several turns (as the discard is random, they usually lose land drops)
Jet Medallion > Sad Robot. You don't run too many artifacts so this seems pretty helpful.
All Is Dust/Oblivion Stone - Both act as wipes which you inevitably need for when things get out of hand. All is dust might synergize with your commander on board, although I don't know the ruling. If it's similar to Meren with a boardwipe still triggering experience counters, then giggle with glee! Dust doesn't usually get artifacts while oblivion stone does. You don't run too many artifacts yourself. Really depends on the meta. Lastly, stone can be spaced apart so you don't have to pay 8 mana in 1 turn, albeit, telegraphed.
Be sure to let me know what you think of each suggestion. Lastly, do you feel yourself struggling with artifacts and enchantments often?
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on
Yomiji, Who You Didn't Know Was This Good.
5 months ago
Oh this is a very interesting use of mass land destruction. Have you thought about running more legendary lands to play off of Yomiji's ability? There are a decent amount of legendary utility lands in white: Eiganjo Castle, Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire, Flagstones of Trokair (really good with MLD), Geier Reach Sanitarium, Karakas, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, and Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper. There are a couple enchantment's matter legendary lands in white as well, but they have less synergy/utility here.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope is generally pretty solid in decks running MLD.
What about Tragic Arrogance over something like All Is Dust. It lets you keep Yomiji around, but has basically the same effect.
I also really like Heroes' Podium and Relic of Legends in legendary matters decks.
I know you weren't really asking for suggestions, but I think this is a really cool deck idea so I got a little excited haha.
+1 from me
Profet93 on
Azusa, Just Lost...
5 months ago
First and foremost you want to find your land count. Players who prioritize a faster build utilize more mana dorks and a lower avg cmc tend to go as low as 38 or as high as low-mid 40's. For those who like to ramp into bigger spells and sacrifice speed for resiliency and late game, low - high 40's. Some players go 50 and above but I find that not needed. Azusa decks tend to cast their commander and then drop all their lands, run out of gas, top deck, play a big spell, have it removed/countered and just are in topdeck mode. You need to establish a good source of draw, whether it be burst or steady card draw, ideally, both. I will get to that later, if I don't (given I'm writing this late at night, please remind me). Also, please remind to mention utility lands, as Azusa decks have a large amount of wiggle room to utilize a landbase to solve difficult challenges. Depending on how you want to make your deck, fast and explosive or slower and more resilient, I can provide you better suggestions. For now, I'll go with the basics. I can suggest cuts in the next comment should you desire.
Sol Ring - Not needed in Azusa, but Turn 2 Azusa with this, into lands allows you to get the "quick" strategy you are looking for.
Mind's Eye - Draw, some people like Memory jar but I find this cheaper and more suitable, especially for your meta.
Greater Good - Extremely powerful sac outlet to prevent theft/exile, fill up your grave (with lands to recur for later, or whatever is appropriate at the time). Seriously, do not sleep on this or crucible of worlds
Sylvan Library - While double your budget, add this to the maybeboard for later as its very useful. It is synergy with Abundance (can outline the detailed synergy later, but its really good), shuffling effects (think fetchlands to shuffle away cards you don't want on top), as well as Course of Kruphix/Oracle of Muldaya effects. Best Turn 2 Azusa play IMO.
Momentous Fall - Used in response to removal, gain life and most importantly, draw cards.
Realms Uncharted - Works best once you get better utility lands. But it acts as a tutor, usually 4 fetches. That way, you fuel crucible of worlds. Bonus points if you add Petrefied Field.
Beast Within - Green's best removal, add this.
Boundless Realms > Reshape the Earth - Given you don't have enough utility lands, this is much better. Even if you did, reshape is very expensive for what it does, more so in this deck.
Pir's Whim - Politics removal and ramp in 1! Not needed but nice to have
Rishkar's Expertise - Best burst draw spell in green. While they can remove your greatest power creature, since it doesnt target, it goes to the next highest. It also helps mitigate tempo loss which is a big issue most draw spells have. Really powerful!
Regarding creatures, its personal preference. I have suggestions but until I know which direction you're going in, I'd rather wait. I personally love Eldrazi, specifically the Kozilek's as they allow you to refill your hand. Distortion allows you to be the blue player and Butcher allows you to, well, slaughter 4 permanents.
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