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Keeper of Fables
Creature — Cat
Whenever one or more non-Human creatures you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.








Xtough on
You Shall Die a Peasant’s Death!
1 year ago
Hello, nice deck and I like the Silver Black approach (uncommons and commons)! For draw maybe Keeper of Fables or Deepwood Denizen may help?
liquid_water on
1 year ago
Did I overlook something, or would you deck out if you Primal Surge into an empty library, and then hit an opponent while you have Dragonborn Champion and/or Keeper of Fables in play?
DreadKhan on
The Golem
1 year ago
In budget decks I always want a Transmogrifying Wand, removal tends to help budget decks a lot more than higher power decks because it's usually harder for a budget deck to just 'go over the top' and win via brute force. GW is really, really good at removing stuff, it's a specialty of both colours at this point.
A few things I use in my Selesnya deck, which is also interested in tokens, might fit in here. Gigantomancer is a lot of mana to get out, but all buffs stack with 7/7 base p/t. Harmonious Archon is an unbelievably good card in a deck that can go reasonably wide, it makes everyone equal, meaning anything that gets even +0/+1 is suddenly terrifying, same with First Strike. Keeper of Fables is a big dumb version of Toski, Bearer of Secrets, but Toski is very much not budget. Soltari Visionary is a weird old card that can remove an enchantment each time it gets in for damage, and most people don't run any Shadows. Hour of Reckoning might work if most people don't run many tokens in your area. Shamanic Revelation is better in decks that don't have very big creatures but tend to have lots, Return of the Wildspeaker and it's ilk are better if you have a very tall creature. Abundance is great in budget decks where you might struggle to find enough card draw, it gets you more consistent value for each draw. Felidar Retreat might be a bit pricey, but getting a free +1/+1 counter on each creature matters more in a deck with tokens. Similarly, Idol of Oblivion isn't super cheap but it's a strong effect with token generation.
If you like Myriad Landscape, Blighted Woodland also exists, ramp on a land is really sweet, even if it's not the most efficient ramp (it enters untapped). Devout Witness is repeatable removal vs artifacts and enchantments.
There is an old cycle in Selesnya that's really useful in some cases, most of them are budget but the odd one is pricier (though not very). They all work on the principle that you give an opponent back cards from their graveyard to get access to a really strong effect. I've had good results with Spurnmage Advocate, Pulsemage Advocate and Nullmage Advocate, but take a look if you've got a few minutes. They're all from the Judgement set iirc, but some got reprints. One fun thing you can do with these is target something someone else was planning to reanimate/dredge with, there are a decent number of Magic cards that people play in EDH that they want/need in their graveyard.
Hope some of this is relevant/these aren't outside your budget! Good luck and have fun!
bushido_man96 on Tweaking Naya Tokens
2 years ago
I'd cut Soul Warden and Ajani's Welcome. Incidental life gain is ok, but not great, and not really worth two slots in the deck unless they were benefiting you in some other way.
Looks like you need more card draw, otherwise you'll stall out too early. Keeper of Fables is pretty subpar. Collective Unconscious will draw you a ton of cards when you have your game plan going. I'd also recommend the courts, Court of Grace for sure, as it will produce more tokens for you. Court of Bounty is great for getting more land drops or creature drops, and Court of Ire can help you finish. You wouldn't necessarily need to have all three of them, but I think the white one really fits the theme of your deck.
A rather obscure card, but I find Kyren Negotiations to be a good way to use your creatures to punch for damage when you don't have advantageous attacks. Tap them for damage at the end of turn before yours, then untap and do your thing. This would pair nicely with Drumbellower.
m4rs on
Ghired - Precon Primal Genesis - Heavy Upgrade
2 years ago
Hi eliakimras,
I was now able to do some playtests with the current set. I still changed some more cards.
Added:
- Elder Gargaroth for Keeper of Fables
Elder is crazy good, drew it 2 times, and it gave me so much options. for example with token doubler and Elemental Bond or with Quartzwood Crasher. - Exploration for Chrome Mox
I dont like the Cardloss from the mox, and when I have good card draw, I can get rid of additional lands - Selvala's Stampede for Tendershoot Dryad
Still not drawn, but this card seems like crazy good. Tendershoot has to less synergy, as it doesnt trigger my 4 power card draws. - Growing Rites of Itlimoc
Flip for a Forest
probably dumb, still not drawn. I probably have to switch it for a "Ramp" slot. Right now this would probably Sword of Hearth and Home - Kenrith's Transformation for Swords to Plowshares
I like that kenrith is denying a commander, and no life gain. But you lose instant speed. Still not sure which better - Jeska's Will for Farewell
Its always easy to cut a Boardwipe, and mostly not the best Idea...2 boardwipes left...but I want to test how Jeska works in this kind of deck. - Emblem of the Warmind for Rampaging Baloths
Cheapest "all Creaturs get Haste" card in MTG. Cutting Baloths was not easy and maybe Omnath, Locus of Rage is the better cut, as it is more expensive and harder to cast. never drawn actually. but haste is insane for this deck. so lets give it a try. - Gisela, Blade of Goldnight for Titanic Ultimatum
I still waiting for Gisela, so never played it. But for Budget, Titanic is still a very good card. It won me games or saved me from loosing at certain points due to lifelink. Gisela seems more powerful and easier to cast. - Rishkar's Expertise for Garruk, Primal Hunter or Rampaging Baloths still not sure.
Feedback to new or rarely played cards:
- Quartzwood Crasher is insane good. Thematically, and also its easy to get like a 10 or 15/15 Token, which you can copy with ghired, after that its gonna be snowball. Surely one of the best cards in this deck. Similar with Elder Gargaroth
- Selesnya Eulogist: Surprisingly good card, I rarely drew it beside the fact thats it a day 1 card of this deck. But targeting creatures from other graveyards (or the own) to prevent reanimate or similiar, and getting blockers is very good!
Cards I am uncertain:
- Wulfgar of Icewind Dale: he is nice, as I have some cards with attack triggers. But maybe he is too expensive. If he goes out, Rampaging Baloths will come back
- Hofri Ghostforge: Only played once, with already strong board. Here he is really nice. best with ETB creatures like Dockside Extortionist with this one i was most sceptical, but I think I will keep him.
Still the deck has a lot of protection, and I am not sure if it too much, but as Ghired is quite expensive, I will right now, not cut a indestructible spell.
About your utility Lands. yeah Gavony Township might be a cool manasink. But Right now I dont have it, as I put it in another deck. also i have a lot of utility lands right now. Kessig wolf run I removed, as having Trample seems no problem in my last plays.
Coward_Token on Secret Lair: Street Fighter
2 years ago
Gleeock: yeah when I saw Zangief I thought of you =).
And yes, Dhalsim fits pretty well with Marisi. He's basically a cheaper Keeper of Fables with Skulk. (All three of those cards obviously rewards you for getting in hits on multiple opponents.)
eliakimras on
Ghired - Precon Primal Genesis - Heavy Upgrade
2 years ago
If I can suggest something, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist is great in a deck where you can tap and untap her at will, but not here. If you want some protection from attacks, Ghostly Prison and Reconnaissance serve you better (activating Reconnaisance during your "end of combat" step effectively gives your creatures vigilance).
I see you run Akroma's Will, Boros Charm, Heroic Intervention and Flawless Maneuver. Unless you play in a boardwipe-heavy meta, you can remove the Charm and Intervention for Gamble (if you can trade into it) and Helm of the Host. 9 mana is expensive to tech into, but it is a instant win condition with many of your cards, unlike Soul Foundry.
How reliable is Momentous Fall in your deck? The more I play, the more I value repeated draw on permanents (like Keeper of Fables) over single-use instant or sorceries (and I started as a blue control mage - dark times indeed). But if the Keeper is not working for you, bring back Eladamri's Call to get the creature you need from your deck, even if it is just to ramp into Ghired.
Lastly, unless you play against nonbasic land hate, I believe you should include Gavony Township, and Kessig Wolf Run in your deck. They are mana sinks stapled on lands for when you have unused mana laying around or don't want to commit your cards in hand. If you're worried about not having the proper colored mana with that many lands, Skyshroud Elf fix you for all and costs while ramping you for . Also, you can run Mossfire Valley and Sungrass Prairie to filter colorless into colored mana.
eliakimras on
Ghired - Precon Primal Genesis - Heavy Upgrade
3 years ago
Hey! Kinda late, but I would like to suggest some stuff:
(Disclaimer: I have a budget way lower than yours, but I've been tinkering with Ghired for almost two years - he's my favorite commander. I'll break the suggested upgrades down into categories for better organization.)
Haste enablers:
- You need them for Ghired and his tokens to attack right away, as well as to use your creatures with tap abilities on demand. Please consider Hammer of Purphoros in addition to Lightning Greaves and Fires of Yavimaya. The Hammer can even create tokens if needed.
Ramp: Run at least 15 ramp cards to make your deck flow smoother and faster.
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As an aggressive deck, speed is fundamental. Fellwar Stone, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Skyshroud Elf, Bloom Tender, Faeburrow Elder, Chromatic Lantern, Coalition Relic, Wood Elves, Skyshroud Claim and Mirari's Wake can ramp and heavily fix your mana, taking the place of Gyre Sage, Solemn Simulacrum, Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder and Xenagos, the Reveler - the latter is a win-more ramp, and his 2/2 token is not large enough to synergize with the power-based card draw, while the other four fix for a single color of mana (Ghired decks can sometimes be color-hungry), and this deck can't abuse the sad robot for value.
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In the land department, Krosan Verge and Blighted Woodland pull their weight, and synergize greatly with Avenger of Zendikar and Rampaging Baloths. Maybe remove Cascading Cataracts? (Your spells are not THAT color hungry.)
Direct damage:
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Have you considered Warstorm Surge and Terror of the Peaks as a mean to do damage even before attacking? The dragon can even be cloned with Flamerush Rider, Flameshadow Conjuring and Soul Foundry for extra copies of the same effect (the game ends quiiiickly after that). I'd remove Dragonmaster Outcast for that, since its effect is slow (albeit amazing if he lasts on the field).
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Talking about damage, how about doubling it? Gratuitous Violence, Fiery Emancipation, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Angrath's Marauders and True Conviction can assist you on that.
Extra combats: You don't have to worry about your opponents' answers if they never get to their turn, so...
- Moraug, Fury of Akoum, Aurelia, the Warleader, Combat Celebrant, Scourge of the Throne (I believe there is an infinite combo involving those two), Savage Beating, Response / Resurgence, Breath of Fury (always attach it to your disposable tokens to keep attacking).
Boardwipes:
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Winds of Abandon might replace Hour of Reckoning. I don't really like to lose Ghired on a boardwipe, since he costs 7 mana to recast. Winds of Abandon also works as evasion for your creatures, since your opponents won't have creatures to block. As for the ramp it offers, an opponent can't do anything with the extra lands if he/she's dead, right? :-)
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Blasphemous Act/Vanquish the Horde plus Boros Charm/Heroic Intervention is a good combo that saves your creatures while taking your opponents' creatures out for not a lot of mana.
Card draw: Alongside ramp, it is my main concern with Ghired. I want to be able to rebuild my board after a boardwipe.
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Garruk's Uprising is a better Colossal Majesty, even giving evasion to your creatures.
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I believe that Camaraderie can be substituted for Shamanic Revelation as the latter cost less mana. Mouth / Feed is another option that creates its own big token. Return of the Wildspeaker can either draw cards or buff creatures for an alpha strike.
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Keeper of Fables triggers all other power-based card draw, while giving easy draw triggers to all your trampling creatures. Elder Gargaroth is a buffed, more versatile version of it. And remember: both can be cloned for extra juicy draw or extra tokens.
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Sylvan Library is an overall great card filter for your regular draws. It gets better with shufflers like fetchlands and tutors.
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Since your deck is focused on attacking and getting extra combat steps, Etali, Primal Storm might be a fun way to play your opponents' cards while lowering their life points.
Some cards I suggest you to remove:
- Sundering Growth: you already have enough flexible removal. You will almost never be in a situation in which the token to copy and the artifact/enchantment to remove are optimal choices. Since you're running Eladamri's Call, Reclamation Sage might be worth including (and cloned for the enjoyment of your friends).
- Starnheim Unleashed: one token is too little for a whole card slot in the deck. If you're foretelling, it costs a lot of mana to be worthwhile. The game might be over before that.
- Growing Ranks: waiting a whole rotation to get a token which does not even have haste is not ideal.
- Ghired's Belligerence, Full Flowering: good for a late game play, mostly dead until then. I like those, but I removed them in favor of more mid-game cards, since I might not last until 9+ mana.
- Trostani, Selesnya's Voice: while on-theme, it does little to advance your win condition.
- Thunderfoot Baloth: not an amazing buff. Your creatures are big already, and Garruk's Uprising takes care of the evasion.
- Feldon of the Third Path: all-star when there is a lot of graveyard filling - there is none in this deck. (I really tried to keep him on my deck because I like the card, but most of the time there was no creature in my graveyard.)
- Eldrazi Displacer: are you using it for a combo? I couldn't identify it.
Some cool lands for you to try out: (landbase is my favorite part of deckbuilding)
- Castle Garenbrig: how easily do you have access to a Forest for it to be worth including in your deck?
- Rogue's Passage: can sometimes help you to finish an opponent.
- Scavenger Grounds: if you face graveyard-centric decks (you don't seem to use your graveyard much).
- Hanweir Battlements Meld: another haste enabler.
- Gargoyle Castle: sometimes you need a flying token. (I rarely use it, but I like to have the option.)
- Gemstone Caverns: a turn-0 ramp when the first turn is not yours.
- Bonders' Enclave: card draw on a land (easily accessible).
- Mana Confluence, Battlefield Forge, Karplusan Forest, Brushland, Horizon Canopy, Sunbaked Canyon, Prismatic Vista, Cragcrown Pathway Flip, Branchloft Pathway Flip, Needleverge Pathway Flip: more untapped dual lands.
I hope I've been of some help to you. I didn't suggest many token-related cards because I believe that, as long as you have decent ramp, draw and removal in your deck, you can win to your heart's content. Wanna throw in a Godsire? Do it. Prefer to clone your opponents' creatures with Hate Mirage? Go ahead. But the fundamentals of the deck is what makes it flow consistently. Have fun and smash 'em all (and run Doubling Season for extra fun) ;-)
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