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me neither

Wait this deck got stolen?

That's fucked, man. I'm sorry.

Caerwyn

Was kinda thinking the same thing. Not sure how many good negative ETBs are out there for Green though. Forcing Heroic Intervention in there might be pushing the color balance when cards like Lazotep Plating and Rebuff the Wicked already exist.

seshiro_of_the_orochi

I was actually thinking of a WRB deck with Lurrus of the Dream-Den as a companion. I can use stuff like Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger , as he already is a good hand hate card even if his ETB "drawback" triggers.

Although...sticking to just WB would be infinitely cheaper and a lot more consistent.

Ach, Kroxa, why do you have to be such an expensive bastard?

Balaam__

Ah, true true. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that you constructed that deck for Vintage. I just assumed it was Modern since you usually make stuff for that format. That's probably why I overreacted a bit at first, lol. My bad.

Imma see what I can do for both Modern and Pioneer.

Maybe I can concoct a Lurrus of the Dream-Den + Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger style deck where the gimmick can be backed up by a genuine hand hate strategy in case something goes wrong.

Still gonna be kinda expensive, though.

I love this, but I am genuinely tilted by how absurdly expensive this is.

I just wanted to summon Hunted Horror , man. ;_;

Balaam__

Nah dude it's cool. It's relevant to the thread I posted.

AND HOLY MOLY THAT'S...WOW...OKAY

That's a really expensive deck holy shit.

Wait nvm I take it back; Strict Proctor counters permanents in general while the other dudes just work against creatures.

Sorry, my brain isn't working right now lol.

Wait hold on why did Wizards of the Coast even give Strict Proctor that pay 2 stipulation when you could just guarantee the ETB negation with those other dudes?

Balaam

I totally forgot Hushbringer existed, and I play MGTArena.

Wow, oops.

seshiro_of_the_orochi

Oh damn, I didn't even realize those cards already existed. Wow, and I really thought I was being original lol.

What are some of the optimal ways of constructing a deck around this weird gimmick? Like, how can I back the deck up so my opponent doesn't just blow up Topor Orb or Tocattli Honor Guard and castrate the rest of the strategy?

Okay, yo, it looks like Strict Proctor has a neat interaction with the cycle of Hunted Creatures from The Guilds of Ravnica Expansion, wherein he can cancel out the ETBs of giving your opponent creatures in exchange for summoning a creature that would otherwise be broken for its mana cost.

So, like, on turn 3, for instance, if you have Mr. Proctor, you can just casually summon Hunted Horror , a 7/7 with Trample for two mana, without any drawbacks.

The question is, is this neat interaction worth building a deck around? Or is it too janky and inconsistent?

zapyourtumor

It could be possible to have a sideboard dedicated to answering creature-lite control decks.

All you gotta do is mangle together a lesser version of an aggro red deck with only 15 cards I think.

Ironic that you deligated Shuckle with the lowest possible toughness.

Would Goblin Engineer be of any interest? He helps bring back Krark's Thumb on the off chance it gets yeeted. He can also "tutor" for it provided you have an artifact you're willing to sacrifice to bring it back.

Trash for Treasure is also good for recovering important artifacts.

Oh shit combining Infect with Saskia is disgustingly genius.

Noice.

Aye, you could maybe sneak in a few more Infect creatures since they provide a more plausible win con, eh?

Yo, since you kind of have a cycling/discard sub-theme going on, would it be possible to fit in Archfiend of Ifnir by any chance, or is there not enough stuff going on for him to work?

I dunno, I just like the guy lol.

Damn, if only cards like Thrumming Stone weren't so expensive...

I feel like a budget version of this deck that doesn't quite compromise on all the combos and synergies is within reach, and I would really love to make it.

It also helps that I actually manage to own a single Rat Colony and Bontu's monument irl.

Damn, I didn't realize how pricey Rat Colony itself is for a common. I gotta sleeve my copy right now.

Would you care for a Goblin Goliath or a Dockside Extortionist during these trying times?

They're a little expensive, but given how pricey this deck already is, I figured you could probably include them without too much of a hassle.