I think I got into Magic during Return to Ravnica, though I really only got serious about this money-sucking hobby just recently.

I'm a filthy budget player who likes to keep things underneath 50 bucks if possible.

Guerric says... #1

Thanks so much for the upvote!

June 19, 2021 10:45 p.m.

Balaam__ says... #2

Perfectly viable idea. There are tons of strong creatures that WotC deliberately hamstring with ETB drawbacks in an effort to keep a level playing field. Nullifying ETB triggers opens up large doors.

June 14, 2021 1:04 a.m.

GrimlockVIII says... #3

Balaam__

Ah, true true. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that you constructed that deck for Vintage. I just assumed it was Modern since you usually make stuff for that format. That's probably why I overreacted a bit at first, lol. My bad.

Imma see what I can do for both Modern and Pioneer.

Maybe I can concoct a Lurrus of the Dream-Den + Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger style deck where the gimmick can be backed up by a genuine hand hate strategy in case something goes wrong.

Still gonna be kinda expensive, though.

June 14, 2021 12:57 a.m.

Balaam__ says... #4

Ah, but it doesn’t have to be. Strip it down to 3 different creatures, the artifact, and some bombs and support spells and it becomes exponentially less expensive. I suggest Modern format; I’m not familiar with the Pioneer cardpool so idk what’s legal and what isn’t. Pauper won’t work.

June 14, 2021 12:51 a.m.

GrimlockVIII says... #5

Balaam__

Nah dude it's cool. It's relevant to the thread I posted.

AND HOLY MOLY THAT'S...WOW...OKAY

That's a really expensive deck holy shit.

June 14, 2021 12:47 a.m.

Balaam__ says... #6

I’m not one to shamelessly plug my own decks, especially in public threads, but here’s one of my old ones built around the concept. Take what you want from it, discard the rest, add to it and make it your own.


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June 14, 2021 12:43 a.m.

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me neither

June 15, 2021 3:14 a.m.

Wait this deck got stolen?

That's fucked, man. I'm sorry.

June 14, 2021 9:34 p.m.

Caerwyn

Was kinda thinking the same thing. Not sure how many good negative ETBs are out there for Green though. Forcing Heroic Intervention in there might be pushing the color balance when cards like Lazotep Plating and Rebuff the Wicked already exist.

June 14, 2021 1:54 p.m.

seshiro_of_the_orochi

I was actually thinking of a WRB deck with Lurrus of the Dream-Den as a companion. I can use stuff like Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger , as he already is a good hand hate card even if his ETB "drawback" triggers.

Although...sticking to just WB would be infinitely cheaper and a lot more consistent.

Ach, Kroxa, why do you have to be such an expensive bastard?

June 14, 2021 1:47 a.m.

Said on GrimlockVIII...

#5

Balaam__

Ah, true true. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that you constructed that deck for Vintage. I just assumed it was Modern since you usually make stuff for that format. That's probably why I overreacted a bit at first, lol. My bad.

Imma see what I can do for both Modern and Pioneer.

Maybe I can concoct a Lurrus of the Dream-Den + Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger style deck where the gimmick can be backed up by a genuine hand hate strategy in case something goes wrong.

Still gonna be kinda expensive, though.

June 14, 2021 12:57 a.m.

I love this, but I am genuinely tilted by how absurdly expensive this is.

I just wanted to summon Hunted Horror , man. ;_;

June 14, 2021 12:49 a.m.

Said on GrimlockVIII...

#7

Balaam__

Nah dude it's cool. It's relevant to the thread I posted.

AND HOLY MOLY THAT'S...WOW...OKAY

That's a really expensive deck holy shit.

June 14, 2021 12:47 a.m.

Wait nvm I take it back; Strict Proctor counters permanents in general while the other dudes just work against creatures.

Sorry, my brain isn't working right now lol.

June 14, 2021 12:44 a.m.

Wait hold on why did Wizards of the Coast even give Strict Proctor that pay 2 stipulation when you could just guarantee the ETB negation with those other dudes?

June 14, 2021 12:42 a.m.

Balaam

I totally forgot Hushbringer existed, and I play MGTArena.

Wow, oops.

June 14, 2021 12:40 a.m.

seshiro_of_the_orochi

Oh damn, I didn't even realize those cards already existed. Wow, and I really thought I was being original lol.

What are some of the optimal ways of constructing a deck around this weird gimmick? Like, how can I back the deck up so my opponent doesn't just blow up Topor Orb or Tocattli Honor Guard and castrate the rest of the strategy?

June 14, 2021 12:38 a.m.

Okay, yo, it looks like Strict Proctor has a neat interaction with the cycle of Hunted Creatures from The Guilds of Ravnica Expansion, wherein he can cancel out the ETBs of giving your opponent creatures in exchange for summoning a creature that would otherwise be broken for its mana cost.

So, like, on turn 3, for instance, if you have Mr. Proctor, you can just casually summon Hunted Horror , a 7/7 with Trample for two mana, without any drawbacks.

The question is, is this neat interaction worth building a deck around? Or is it too janky and inconsistent?

June 14, 2021 12:24 a.m.

zapyourtumor

It could be possible to have a sideboard dedicated to answering creature-lite control decks.

All you gotta do is mangle together a lesser version of an aggro red deck with only 15 cards I think.

June 12, 2021 4:29 a.m.

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#14

Ironic that you deligated Shuckle with the lowest possible toughness.

June 12, 2021 4:19 a.m.

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#15

Would Goblin Engineer be of any interest? He helps bring back Krark's Thumb on the off chance it gets yeeted. He can also "tutor" for it provided you have an artifact you're willing to sacrifice to bring it back.

Trash for Treasure is also good for recovering important artifacts.

June 12, 2021 1:20 a.m.

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#16

Oh shit combining Infect with Saskia is disgustingly genius.

Noice.

June 11, 2021 7:55 p.m.

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#17

Aye, you could maybe sneak in a few more Infect creatures since they provide a more plausible win con, eh?

June 11, 2021 7:20 p.m.

Yo, since you kind of have a cycling/discard sub-theme going on, would it be possible to fit in Archfiend of Ifnir by any chance, or is there not enough stuff going on for him to work?

I dunno, I just like the guy lol.

June 11, 2021 6:52 p.m.

Damn, if only cards like Thrumming Stone weren't so expensive...

I feel like a budget version of this deck that doesn't quite compromise on all the combos and synergies is within reach, and I would really love to make it.

It also helps that I actually manage to own a single Rat Colony and Bontu's monument irl.

Damn, I didn't realize how pricey Rat Colony itself is for a common. I gotta sleeve my copy right now.

June 11, 2021 1:27 a.m.

Would you care for a Goblin Goliath or a Dockside Extortionist during these trying times?

They're a little expensive, but given how pricey this deck already is, I figured you could probably include them without too much of a hassle.

June 10, 2021 11:30 p.m.

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