Tormenting Voice

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Pre-release Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Tormenting Voice

Sorcery

As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a card.

Draw two cards.

Lunar_Wing on The Baby Deck

3 months ago

Since this deck creates blood tokens, you might want to look into cards that have a madness ability.

Also you will need ways to draw cards back to make up for all the discarding you will be doing. Here are some brief suggestions that are cheap and easy to find on a budget.

Change of Fortune is really good for that.

If you really go into the madness thing, Faithless Looting is good.

Tormenting Voice & Thrill of Possibility are good too.

Also Outpost Siege is nice because if you choose khans you get to exile your top card each turn for an extra possible card you can cast each turn

Here is a decent resource you can look at for cards that other people like to use for this kind of deck.

Michuru81 on Raiyuu

7 months ago

No Sunforger?

It could go grab a lot of staples I don’t see here: Boros Charm, Chaos Warp, Generous Gift, Path to Exile… You can also toss in Deflecting Palm as a nice middle finger to an unsuspecting opponent who thinks they’ve just won.

Card draw is nice. If you’re down with discarding, Faithless Looting, maybe Tormenting Voice or Browbeat? Secret Rendezvous can make friends. Maybe Reckless Impulse?

multimedia on Chainer Nightmare Reanimator

8 months ago

Hey, if you're wanting to take your deck into 8 or more power level (PL) then you really need to decide how you want to win the game? At 8 PL or higher to win infinite combos are the way to go. Chainer doesn't need to be a piece of the combo, his discard can be an enabler. Since Chainer cares about creatures then using combos that involve creatures is best.

Some creatures to play for combos: Worldgorger Dragon, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Gravecrawler, Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, Walking Ballista, Murderous Redcap, Pitiless Plunderer, Dualcaster Mage, Reassembling Skeleton.

Some enablers for combos to play: Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Goblin Bombardment, Altar of Dementia, Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, Animate Dead, Dance of the Dead, Necromancy, Twinflame or Heat Shimmer.

Some win conditions for the combos: Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, Walking Ballista, Murderous Redcap, Zealous Conscripts, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Dualcaster Mage, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Mayhem Devil, Goblin Bombardment, Bontu's Monument, Aetherflux Reservoir, Sunscorched Desert, Impact Tremors, Cut / Ribbons(Ribbions), Torment of Hailfire.

Some cards to play to protect combo: Deflecting Swat, Tibalt's Trickery, Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Dualcaster Mage, Reverberate.


Beyond combos some other good creatures to play: Dockside Extortionist, Magus of the Wheel, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, Crypt Ghast, Plaguecrafter, Dualcaster Mage.

Expanding on loot can help to draw and get creatures faster into your graveyard: Buried Alive, Magus of the Wheel, Cathartic Reunion, Thrill of Possibility, Tormenting Voice, Azra Oddsmaker, Sire Of Insanity, Seize the Spoils.

Expanding on fast mana and/or big mana producers helps to have more mana to cast more spells which can assemble combos faster: Dockside Extortionist, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, Crypt Ghast, Mana Crypt, Dark Ritual, Rite of Flame, Cabal Ritual, Burnt Offering, Sacrifice.

If you're interested in any of these suggestions then I offer more advice in another comment that includes further explaining the combos, more card advice as well as cuts to consider.

Good luck with your deck.

zapyourtumor on Burn

8 months ago

Also Magmatic Insight is honestly probably better than Tormenting Voice here

multimedia on Olivia EDH

8 months ago

Hey, you're welcome.

Cards that put creatures from your hand or library into your graveyard can help Olivia as Commander . You don't need to add a bunch of expensive price cards to make improvements. Staying on a low budget is perfectly fine to have a good Olivia tribal deck. What your deck mostly needs are cards that can enable Olivia to reanimate.

The advantage that Olivia has is haste meaning she can attack to reanimate the same turn she enters the battlefield (ETB) if you have a creature in your graveyard. You want to be able to take advantage of this by having creatures in your graveyard to reanimate before you want to cast Olivia.

"Loot" is a term in Magic that means draw then discard or discard then draw. This effect lets you discard creatures in your hand to draw cards and then reanimate those creatures with Olivia. You want to cast loot early in the game thus most of these types cards you play should be lower mana cost. 40 creatures is a lot of creatures even for tribal consider cutting a few of the lesser creatures for some cards that can get creatures into your graveyard?

Budget loot package to consider adding:

Anje Falkenrath is a legendary Vamp who can be a repeatable source of looting. Vile Entomber is not loot it's better and it's a creature who Olivia can reanimate. Entomber's effect is called "entomb" in Magic and it's where you search your library for a card and put that card right into your graveyard. Seize the Spoils and Unexpected Windfall are also ramp with treasures which is helpful to cast Olivia.

Cards to consider cutting for these:

I offer more advice in another comment. Would you like more advice?

multimedia on Olivia, Crimson Bride Commander

10 months ago

Hey, nice start on a budget version, but I think you're relying too much on reanimation and Olivia without enough enablers.

Olivia and reanimation needs creatures in your graveyard. Thrill, Looting, Deal are good and Gravebreaker is fine, but currently that's really it for cards that can discard a creature/get a creature into your graveyard before you want to cast Olivia.

Buried Alive is very good enabler for reanimation since tutoring for and putting three creatures into your graveyard is a lot for three mana. Buried can get Anger and Anger or another haste enabler is needed for the infinite attacks combo of Port Razer + sac outlet + Olivia since Razer needs to be about to attack on the extra combat phases. Seize the Spoils and Unexpected Windfall do both effects, discarding a creature and ramp from treasures.

Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion can be repeatable discard and ramp. Olivia, Mobilized for War is a another legendary Vampire to help to keep your reanimated creatures from being exiled. She can also be a discard outlet and a haste enabler. Consider cutting a few of the lesser creatures to reanimate for these enablers?

If interested I offer more advice, good luck with your deck.


Omniscience_is_life, Master of Cruelties does work with Olivia, the same way it works with Kaalia of the Vast. The trigger to make a player's life total become 1 happens if Master isn't blocked, after Declare Blockers step, not when it's declared as an attacker.

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