Ox of Agonas
Creature — Ox
When Ox of Agonas enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards.
Escape—, Exile eight other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Ox of Agonas escapes with a +1/+1 counter on it.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Ox of Agonas Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
After further testing and time to parse through the upcoming Forgotten Realms regular and commander cards, I think you're right about the "discard hand, draw 3" model. While it sometimes works, it takes far too much commitment and loss of control to rely heavily on. I will keep Ox of Agonas as I still think its Escape mode is pretty great, but Anje's Ravager and any others are out. I'm also putting Stinkweed Imp back into the deck because being able to process 5 cards without spending mana, just a draw, is powerful.
I think for now, I should tighten my sources of card advantage. Though it adds a bit more consistency to have more smaller looting cards like Thrill of Possibility or the aforementioned Anje's Ravager , I could just be using those slots for more powerful cards that actually impact the board or are otherwise useful while consolidating the draw power to the heavy hitters like Magus of the Wheel , Vilis, Broker of Blood , or Disciple of Bolas for example. Specific tools and answers will be handled by the tutors I was adding anyway and the general system will be greased with odd cards like Squee, Goblin Nabob and Phyrexian Reclamation .
Everything else needs to be playtested rather than theorized about, but I think it's safe to say this is a core part of the deck that I should reconsider and upgrade. I'd also like to put forward the new Warlock Class as a possible replacement or partner to Archfiend of Despair and the possibility of Heartless Hidetsugu .
I'm also interested in the new Hurl Through Hell , Fevered Suspicion , and Orcus, Prince of Undeath . The former two I'm more optimistic about, and am willing to sacrifice a little reliability for their potential and because they look like a lot of fun, but I suspect Orcus will be one of those cards that look a lot better on paper than in practice.
2 months ago
I like your idea of Hellkite Tyrant so I've made a swap for him, getting rid of Vandalblast while simultaniously moving Ingot Chewer out for Shenanigans . I'll have an opportunity soon enough to test those things out, so I may as well make the change for now. Thanks for that suggestion! :)
I personally am not a fan of the forced discard of your entire hand that Ox of Agonas has. At least, not for just three cards. Wheel of Misfortune is a good enough Wheel of Fortune impersonation that I would still prioritize it over the 'discard hand draw 3 creatures'. Draw 7 is so much more powerful for a deck reliant on burst damage such as this one. And in a roundabout sense, self-milling using Dredge cards is much the same result, so perhaps one of the options between Ox, Ravager, or Reveler is a good subtitiute to replace Stinkweed Imp if you like those effects more.
And as for nuPurphoros, I am not a fan of him here. In a mono-Red deck sure, but there's just too many Black creatures here for him to be consistent with his effect, which is the major thing differentiating him over other Haste enablers. He's very borderline worth the 5 mana as a Haste-granter, and certainly not worth it as an 8 mana Sneak Attack that only works with half your creatures. If you're having trouble with keeping Chainer on board as your primary Haste effect, always keep in mind that you don't have to send him to the Command Zone everytime he's done in. Conserve some of your redundant recursion ( Reanimate , Dread Return ) for him. Or just jam Lightning Greaves and/or Ogre Battledriver somewhere in the deck!
4 months ago
Fling is a cool idea, tho from playtesting this deck Rielle is typically only up to probably about 7 or 8 power on average by the end of the game so it wouldn't be something that could do the job entirely. Also, Ox of Agonas tends to be a very important card for breaking the game in my favor so he gets dibs on the bulk of the graveyard- obviously you want to leave as many instants/sorceries in the yard as possible for Rielle and Magmatic Channeler , but generally speaking those cards and triggers from Ox are more important.
5 months ago
Nothing else off the top of my head, but you know I think I'm gonna build this just to have somewhere to play Ox of Agonas (I pulled 3 at prerelease and have been wanting to use it lol). Also, how has Sin Prodder played? It's a bit of a pet card of mine and I loved playing it in 20-life formats when SOI came out but it always seemed so bad in EDH. Does it actually do okay? Or is it essentially just "upkeep- mill 1 and maybe ping someone"?
5 months ago
Hey man nice deck, I'm also trying to build a Song deck so found this to get some inspiration. A few ideas you might want to try out:
Adventure cards such as Brazen Borrower and Bonecrusher Giant . I like the Foretell cards too but they can be slow against aggro, so these guys can help survive the early game while also avoiding the Song discard.
Ominous Seas is a good alternate win con, as you can easily churn out krakens once Song is rolling.
Ox of Agonas gives a similar type of payoff as Song to help with the deck's consistency, and if you get it with Song you can just discard it and use the Escape later.
6 months ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't I have to go odds if I wanted one of those companions? Offspring's Revenge is odds. Though I guess either would work as regular creatures.
I originally had Skyclave Apparition in the deck, but decided I only wanted to play hits that I could still cast without stretching the mana-base too much, but now I think it's better than Demon's Disciple . I feel like I need Harmonious Archon , so I don't mind changing up the mana a little bit in order to fit these.
Thanks for the suggestions!