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Daretti, Scrap Savant
Planeswalker — Daretti
+2: Discard up to two cards, then draw that many cards.
-2: Sacrifice an artifact. If you do, return target artifact card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
-10: You get an emblem with “Whenever an artifact is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, return that card to the battlefield at the beginning of the next end step.”
Daretti, Scrap Savant can be your commander.
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2 days ago
Are you asking for just self-recurring artifacts or artifact recursion in general because and are very good at the latter. For the former, your options are a little limited without . I'd look at artifacts with "unearth", or artifacts like Spine of Ish Sah, Scrap Trawler or Myr Retriever. If you want more general artifact recursion then I'd recommend Daretti, Scrap Savant, Goblin Engineer, Scrap Mastery, Trading Post, and Trash for Treasure. Most of these can be safely played at the precon power level. Some recursion effects that are on the stronger end are Goblin Welder, Portal to Phyrexia, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, and Academy Ruins. These are stronger in my opinion because of their efficiency, repeatability, and they possess fewer constraints.
As far as "how to build a precon level deck" goes, I wouldn't worry about purposely nerfing the deck per say, but maybe asking yourself "could a precon handle the synergies, resiliency, and value engines that my deck creates?". Ultimately though, I think the best advice I can give is to build the deck that you want to build, and that you think is precon level. Then play it against some precons. That will give you the best feel for where you deck is at and if you need to add or remove things.
1 month ago
Some of your cards seem really uninspiring to topdeck... ornithopter, shuko...
Seems like these cards would be playable in a jhoira weatherlight captain deck but not sure why they help you here.
What us bEDH?
Some ideas for your consideration-
Mask of Memory, Infiltration Lens, Monastery Siege, Daretti, Scrap Savant, Thrill of Possibility, Buried Ruin, Coastal Piracy, Bident of Thassa, Goggles of Night, Cathartic Reunion, and in general maybe a little more interaction like Chaos Warp, Resculpt.
Just some thoughts, cheers and have fun!!
2 months ago
I actually really like this! I was trying to think of ways to break it, but even with things like Daretti, Scrap Savant it's not really broken. Great design!!
4 months ago
Thank you! Bronze Guardian and Daretti, Scrap Savant are good includes, I'll have to pick them up! Though I'm having trouble seeing the artifact land tricks that are possible with Goblin Welder, what do you mean exactly?
4 months ago
Modular tribal?? Cool!!
I also have a Jeskai "artifacts matter" deck but I like your theme/direction more.
A few suggestions for you based off my deck:
Bronze Guardian so good.
Goblin Welder artifact land tricks is vintage level power.
Daretti, Scrap Savant you are running all the other artifact reanimation.
6 months ago
You could run Wild Ricochet and I think there are a few similar things but those won't help against an overloaded Vandalblast. Your best bet is like plakjekaas said reanimation. To add to their list there is also Goblin Engineer and Daretti, Scrap Savant. Darksteel Forge is a decent option. Most folks run destruction effects for artifacts over exile.
8 months ago
Someone starts the game with Leyline of the Void out. What does my mono-red artifact deck do against that to actually enable my recur combos? Goblin Welder and Goblin Engineer are now useless. Myr Retriever is now useless. Daretti, Scrap Savant is now basically useless, only good for a free "faithless looting" each turn. Feldon of the Third Path is useless. Crucible of Worlds is now useless. Scrap Trawler is now useless. Trash for Treasure does nothing. Ichor Wellspring loses half its value. Buried Ruin is just a wasteland at that point. Codex Shredder Grindstone and Millstone now have to be used to mill other people or are useless. They got put into my deck to help me mill myself for a good Scrap Mastery, which is now also pointless.
So yeah, I guess i can still play them, but why would I? They no longer do what they're supposed to do. I wouldn't even bring this up if there was red enchantment removal, but there isn't, so for a mono red graveyard player, Leyline of the Void is as opressive and unanswerable as Iona Vs any monocolored deck
TypicalTimmy Fair enough. I had it played against me too. Before i ran kaalia and had daretti, someone dropped it and named red because i got my hand revealed a turn ago, or maybe the top card of my library was revealed or something. everyone saw i had obliterate or jokalhaups or something in my hand and i had dsteel forge on the board, so i was gonna wipe everyone else and win in the meantime. Somehow lattice hit the board so i obliterated anyway. Even in a 1v1 though, i technically could have still handled it just by using colorless stuff. Maybe that's just an advantage of artifacts - not being gimped by iona.
plakjekaas it sure would help the situation. Maybe not in a 'fun' way, but it would help. It's not "fun" when my carefully constructed combo that i made "uncounterable" is still just countered anyway, for free, because, you know, blue. So ban Mindbreak Trap too.
8 months ago
I took a few year hiatus from the game. One of the last things I did was pick up an Iona, Shield of Emeria for my kaalia deck.
Upon returning to the game, i have learned she has been banned from the format. Ok, fair enough, she is quite strong.
But then I looked up why she was banned. "Because locking mono-colored people out of the game isn't fair/in the spirit of the format/whatever."
Bullshit. Pure bullshit. She should be unbanned or Leyline of the Void and Rest in Peace should be banned because they completely lock out a mono-red artifact/graveyard player. I used to play daretti. The whole reason I switched to Kaalia was because of Leyline of the void and Rest in Peace coupled with the fact that mono-red doesn't have enchantment removal, which simply stopped me from playing my deck with no recourse. I played Daretti, Scrap Savant but Feldon of the Third Path, Squee, Goblin Nabob and Squee, the Immortal, and Heiko Yamazaki, the General all are similarly just boned hard with no recourse by it.
Ok, yeah, and the mono-colored player could do that to Iona. Or, they could run Mycosynth Lattice and make everything colorless so she becomes irrelevant. So why is she banned?
There is literally no justification for Iona being banned that doesn't also justify the banning of other cards.
So is sire of insanity and being slaverlocked and stax.
"It prevents players from getting to play the game"
So do the enchantments i mentioned above, sire of insanity, and slaverlocking. So does stax.
Yeah, so is everything with annihilator.
At the very least, Leyline of the void should be banned until they print a mono-red enchantment removal card because it makes it so mono-red graveyard decks don't get to actually play their deck and get to only play a half assed gimped version of it, and it can start the game on the board. This is exactly why they said they banned iona. "its not in the spirit of the game to basically lock one mono-colored player out of the game". Except theyre not "locked out". They can still play lands and colorless artifacts and try to find a land based or artifact based answer to Iona. Same as me with my daretti deck when the game started with Leyline of the Void out. Sure, i couldn't use my graveyard stuff, and even if i ulted my commander, it wouldn't do anything, so i might as well not play him, but i can still just hardcast all my artifacts and stuff.. You couldn't cheat out iona turn 1. You can't put RIP out turn 1. Leyline can be on the board turn zero, so there isn't even an argument that the red deck should be winning before leyline hits the field. So like, Iona doesn't actually lock a mono-colored player out of the game. It just feels that way. The same as permanent enchantment based graveyard hate does to mono-red.
Also, Iona should be unbanned, because according to most people mono-white is the worst commander color, so Mono-white needs something strong, or they should follow their reasoning for the ban to its logical conclusion and ban a bunch of other stuff. If they had just banned her for a generic "she's too strong" i would have accepted it, but they didn't. They gave a reason that is the exact reason I found playing Mono-red graveyard artifacts no fun at all.
Just Reban "painter's servant".