Lathliss, Dragon Queen
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Whenever another nontoken Dragon enters the battlefield under your control, create a 5/5 red Dragon creature token with flying.
: Dragons you control get +1/+0 until end of turn.
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Lathliss, Dragon Queen Discussion
4 weeks ago
Hey there! Thanks for the insights on my list! Here, I'll give some of my own:
-I understand what you mean when you point out that I should have Seven Dwarves on my list simply for the low CMC. But have you thought about using those slots for 1 CMC dwarves? On this deck, 2CMC 2/2's are worst than 1 CMC 1/1's simply because you can curve'em into Magda on T2 and start generating treasures. I'm only trying to remove the seven dwarves from list because I consistently get a 1 drop dwarf on T1 into Magda T2 into a 3 drop (or a 1 drop + a 2 drop) on T3. This way you can often enough get 5+ treasures by T4 (If no one removes Magda, ofc).
-Your list seems to have a lot of payoffs both for Dragons and Artifacts/Equipments. Thats not bad, but you must remember: Magda's abillity is quite strong when you can pop it early. In my experience, if I pop it by T4-5 with the correct tutor I will snowball the game really fast and win the game with 3-4 more activations tops (normally I'll have 1 available per turn by then). My point beeing, with 10-12 payoffs you should be more than ready to kick it off. I, personally, prefered the artifact road since I can play dwarf tribal with a few dragons to bring some value. But if you want to play heavy on two tribes, thats also fine!
What I'd suggest to you is to try at least a few of those 1CMC dwarves and try to take away a few of the payoffs for a smoother mana curve.
A few good 1 drops to look for: Universal Automaton , Dwarven Grunt , Dwarven Trader , Dwarven Scorcher , Bloodfire Dwarf , Dwarven Armorer , Enslaved Dwarf and Liberated Dwarf . Honestly they're all better than Seven Dwarves , even if you manage to have more than one in the board, since you dont care for their size but for how many activations each managed to get from your commander.
1 month ago
If a mono-R dragon-stacking commander is what you're looking for, Lathliss, Dragon Queen might be what you're looking for.
1 month ago
I think you should have 4x Counterspell and 4x Lightning Bolt . Definitely include maybe 2x Goldspan Dragon to ramp up to your bigger dragons. Other big dragon ideas could be Drakuseth, Maw of Flames and Lathliss, Dragon Queen . Welcome back to MTG :)
1 month ago
Yeah, you're probably right and two focused decks are better than one that is unfocused. However, if you build the deck with Dragon's Approach as a regular EDH deck Pyromancer Ascension and maybe Harness the Storm might do some work, maybe even without dragons.
Your Zirilan Deck looks super fun as well, maybe I get a hand on one someday, but for now I'll go with the cheaper Lathliss, Dragon Queen as commander. But since this is a Syr Carah, the Bold PDH deck I think we should focus on that and not on dragons. ;)
1 month ago
I want to build a monored commander deck and couldn't decide between Syr Carah and Lathliss, Dragon Queen . Looking for inspirations I just stumbled over your Syr Carah / Dragon deck and it looks super interesting. Right now I'm wondering if I could use the same concept for a deck (regular EDH, kitchen table level) helmed by Syr Carah and with Lathliss (and some Dragon Friends) as secret commander. I don't know if that's viable and to get an idea of that I'd be glad to read some updates on how your decks plays. :)
2 months ago
2 months ago
So depending on the weaknesses / inconsistencies you're seeing in your play, you may just want to add Goldspan Dragon in favor of Lathliss, Dragon Queen - ramp on a Dragon is so, so good. That's mainly the reason Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge is still in the build - the early blocker is nice, but with all the targeted removal we pack from Terror of the Peaks , Scourge of Valkas , Dragon Tempest , etc., Gadrak opens up some solid instant-speed plays or future ramp.
In discussing this more, I do wonder if Feldon of the Third Path can be swapped out. Six mana for one revive is steep, and as I said, the ETB/LTB selection is limited. At a 28-30 creature count, he might make more sense, but that might be my cut candidate for Goldspan Dragon ...
Hellkite Tyrant is delightful and will probably always included for me. It's one of those effects that can just change the game in a heartbeat in my opinion.
I'm going to try and find room for Tibalt's Trickery as well - the red counter spell probably wants to find it way in here.
Have you considered Seize the Spoils ? At 3 CMC it might be a bit slow, and may be too cute, maybe not as strong as Cathartic Reunion , or maybe we just up the CMC for Pirate's Pillage , but it does everything Bladewing wants, so I can't help but consider it.
All of this is making me wonder about finding more powerful inclusions than Darretti, Scrap Savant and Solemn Simulacrum - the flexibility is so nice at 4 CMC, but I do think the power level can bump up (without breaking the bank for Mana Crypt , Wheel of Fortune , Demonic Tutor , or Vampiric Tutor ). Have any inclusions in particular been all-stars for you?
I'll also put that question to our other Bladewing friends: Fuzzlewuzzle, That_Salty_Gamr, and - have you guys any pet cards or utility/tech cards that feel like they consistently over-achieve in your Bladewing decks?
2 months ago
I'll try to explain my reasoning as best as possible, but some of the cards you brought up happen to the spots I'm actually less sure of. First off, cards that have done well for me.
- Anger I love this card. It's basically a free discard for all my draw spells, or when you cast Buried Alive you can grab whatever dragons you need and this guy.
- Lathliss, Dragon Queen Honestly unsure still. Her fire breathing has actually come up more than the tokens. But in a few games I've been able to reanimate multiple things and the extra bodies have been nice. Still undecided.
- Molten Echoes This card is actually in here for the infinite combo. The combo has only come up once, but the hasty tokens have actually been even better. It also is amazing if you have either Scourge of Valkas or Terror of the Peaks on the battlefield.
- Skyline Despot Getting the initial draw is nice, but you always become a target and I've never actually made the token. He is probably a safe cut for something more reliable.
The creatures you mentioned were so close to making it into my first build. If I could run 105 cards I'd probably have them. You very well may be correct to include them, but the reason they didn't make the cut is because they're creatures. I was hesitant to put my card advantage in something that had to stick around and have another creature attack. Chainer is amazing but I hate that I have to pay full price! I want to cheat! Feldon is pretty cool but again, he has to wait a turn before he can help us. Mausoleum Secrets is very interesting. I like the extra tutor to get our reanimation effects. The reason I have Final Parting is so I can grab both the spell and the creature, but it's a lot a 5cmc.
Hellkite Tyrant I'll admit, this is really only in here because it's a "staple". It has stolen a few signets and sol rings but that's about it. I could be convinced to swap this guy for something else.
That's a lot for now, but if it isn't obvious, I love talking Bladewing! I'm excited now about a treasure upgrade!